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post #31 of 784
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Originally Posted by Tulpa View Post

Yeah, you're basically looking at the difference between a Kia Rio and a Daewoo Lanos when speakers from dedicated companies are at Honda Civic level or higher.

Now that sums it up perfectly!
post #32 of 784
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Would this receiver have enough power to cleanly support some upgraded floorstanding speakers and a higher end center speaker? Nothing too crazy but perhaps the polk audio monitor 50s or something similar....

I have the feeling that if I wanna do this right, I should perhaps wait a little longer to make a purchase...I would like to have a receiver that has the version 1.4 standard and is powerful enough to have room for upgrading down the road. Since everthing is just now going to 1.4 maybe if I wait a few months I will have some better options available.... The thought of getting the onkyo tx-sr608 when it is released has kept me from making this htib purchase at the moment....
post #33 of 784
It should. I'm using a fairly similar receiver (Onkyo HT-R540) to power two Athena Audition F2.2s (and five other speakers) and it works just fine.
post #34 of 784
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Originally Posted by snorton007 View Post

Would this receiver have enough power to cleanly support some upgraded floorstanding speakers and a higher end center speaker? Nothing too crazy but perhaps the polk audio monitor 50s or something similar....

I have the feeling that if I wanna do this right, I should perhaps wait a little longer to make a purchase...I would like to have a receiver that has the version 1.4 standard and is powerful enough to have room for upgrading down the road. Since everthing is just now going to 1.4 maybe if I wait a few months I will have some better options available.... The thought of getting the onkyo tx-sr608 when it is released has kept me from making this htib purchase at the moment....

i have been were you are, if you want to be satified peice together your system starting with a good 3.1 and build from there.
post #35 of 784
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Originally Posted by osofast240sx View Post

i have been were you are, if you want to be satified peice together your system starting with a good 3.1 and build from there.

Yeah Newegg is have a great sale on Polk Monitor 60s and matching Polk CS2 center!!!!

Monitor 60s retail for $300 a piece Newegg is selling them for $120 a piece

The Polk CS2 retails for $300 and its on sale for $105

http://promotions.newegg.com/NEemail...D=3136390&SID=
post #36 of 784
Just for a competing view, I am still leaning towards the HT-S5300. It is an upgrade in every sense from what I have now. Currently I am running a 550W Sony 5.1 system and lacking any HDMI. This system has served me well for many years (and will probably continue to serve my parents). My living room is pretty small, and my Sony does a nice job of filling it as is (for 1 way satellite speakers). I do have two nice 3 way Pioneer tower speakers that I had planned to use. Unfortunately, I just can't fit them into my living room setup.

The price on this system is really pushing me toward it. It's in my budget range and it gives me everything I need now. I don't foresee me needing anything bigger, as I don't plan on owning a house anytime soon. This system doesn't look perfect, but it does look 'good enough.'
post #37 of 784
@ickysmits - where would I look for such packages? and how do I know what speakers are good and what not?

thanks
post #38 of 784
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Originally Posted by bellorusha View Post

@ickysmits - where would I look for such packages? and how do I know what speakers are good and what not?

thanks

Most stuff is easier to find online so you have to be comfortable with that...and as far as knowing what's good you can familiarize yourself by hanging out here or in the speaker section.

Here's a good recent thread with some budget ideas -> http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1229748
Good deals pop up often on various packages from different websites.
post #39 of 784
I'm officially waffling on the HT-S5300. The S413 Jamo set is a steal right now. It's only a 5.1 though. What could I get to bring it up to a 7.1?
post #40 of 784
have those of you that are bashing the speakers in the Onkyo HTIB actually listened to them? I think they sound fantastic. Sure they aren't much to look at but either are Bose speakers and many would say these systems (5200, 6200, 7200) sound better than many Bose systems. Read the reviews. They almost always get very high ratings. Judging by past experience, I would expect that the new HT-S5300 will also get the same. After much homework I have no reason to believe it won't.

Those of you that are extreme audiophiles could probably tell the difference between a $3000 system and this $500 system, but Joe public cannot and that is the market Onkyo is aiming for.

For $500 you cannot go wrong.
post #41 of 784
I started with an Onkyo HTIB setup, with speakers that spec-wise were equal to or a bit better than the current offerings (my surrounds actually had tweeters.) I kept my receiver and bought some Athena Audition speakers and a Bic subwoofer, which while respectable, aren't an audiophile's choice.

The difference was night and day.

I've also heard a setup that started with Onkyo and had some low end Polk speakers. Again, the Polks were an upgrade, and Polk IMO makes some pretty low end to middle of the road speakers.

So yes, I have heard Onkyo speakers and I think I can give an accurate assessment of them. The Onkyo HTIBs are a great value, but you can do better for even just a little bit more money. And I'm not an audiophile. I listen to 192kb mp3s and cassettes on my system.

Onkyo's systems ARE a good starter system for someone who has never owned a home theater, but let's keep some perspective.
post #42 of 784
Onkyo has bang for buck value. Even the most critical people respect that. What it does is help people make the choice at entry level. Face it, this audio/video tech is very confusing to those just now jumping on board. I think the S5300 will give a new user good value, but I doubt that it is capable enough to upgrade much. Check the amp section, it may not be robust. Then again, when one wants to upgrade what kind of money are we loosing? Not much once the upgrade bug hit us, as then you're getting speakers that cost the price of this unit by the single. It helps get people hooked. I don't think you can go too wrong with any S6100 S6200 S7100 S7200 or newer S5300 and up.
post #43 of 784
What would be the power consumption of the unit. All it states in the manual is:
Power Consumption 4.9 A

I wonder what the standby and operational power consumption would be. Any ideas?
post #44 of 784
are those speakers better then the one that comes in 5300?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16882290066

If yes, then how better, how would anybody describe a difference in sound?

i know it's a stupid question but you thrown me away when you said Onkyo make not very good speakers. + I want smaller sub, sub in 5300 and 6200 scares me by the size of it. lol

Thanks
post #45 of 784
For anyone looking at this system, Newegg is reporting a release date of 5/14.
post #46 of 784
I've pre-ordered this as well. Unfortunately Amazon states a shipping date of JUNE 14!! ... ONE MONTH after its initial release ... supposedly, at least.

I guess they're backordered, but it seems like a decent enough system ... or at least the $175 difference between the 3300 seems to be money well spent with powered sub and ipod dock and extra power to the receiver.

We shall see. When/if I get this thing in and hooked up I'll try to write a review for the peeps.

Anyone else have opinions on this system? I know it's not released yet, or so we're told, but there's still not much out there information-wise.
post #47 of 784
I got to listen to the 6200 today. The 6200 and the 5300 appear to have the same speakers from initial pictures. I was less then impressed with them. The highs were non existent and the mids were muddy. I think my 7 year old Sony satellites may sound better. I think the 5300 is going to be out for me. I think I am going to invest in good 5.1 speakers, then a decent receiver, then round it out with two floor standing when the cash comes along.

Another option for people. Vanns is reporting a 6300 coming out. No release date, or any info on Onkyo.com yet. Vanns has the full specs available.
post #48 of 784
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Originally Posted by PACanesfan View Post

I got to listen to the 6200 today. The 6200 and the 5300 appear to have the same speakers from initial pictures. I was less then impressed with them. The highs were non existent and the mids were muddy. I think my 7 year old Sony satellites may sound better. I think the 5300 is going to be out for me. I think I am going to invest in good 5.1 speakers, then a decent receiver, then round it out with two floor standing when the cash comes along.

Another option for people. Vanns is reporting a 6300 coming out. No release date, or any info on Onkyo.com yet. Vanns has the full specs available.

your review is the only reason why i have chosen to not pre-order the 5300 actually... waiting to maybe get some reviews.

i was gonna get the 3300 til i realized i have the perfect room for 7.1, but i don't have the money for what a 6300 could be, so maybe i'll just get the TX-SR508 and just build up speaker by speaker or something...
suggestions?
other thoughts?
official release dates?
i'm really hoping the 5300 comes out soon, and it's better than the 6200, cuz i've already sold my last surround setup and have just been waiting for the 5300.
post #49 of 784
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Originally Posted by bellorusha View Post

Glad to find that topic as I am also waiting for 5300 and not sure if should just go with 6200.

Here is one more big difference that concern me between 6200 and 5300.

The speakers got much bigger. Can anybody tell if it's good thing or not? because I would rather go with smaller one in 6200, i do not have lots of space.

6200
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Dimensions (W x H x D) -
Front 4 3/4" x 9 1/8" x 4 13/16" (120 x 231 x 122 mm) 2.4 lbs. (1.1 kg)
Center 9 1/8" x 4 3/4" x 5 1/16" (231 x 121 x 128 mm) 2.4 lbs. (1.1 kg)
Surround 4 3/4" x 9 1/8" x 4 13/16" (120 x 231 x 122 mm) 1.8 lbs. (0.8 kg)
Surround Back 4 3/4" x 9 1/8" x 4 13/16" (120 x 231 x 122 mm) 1.8 lbs. (0.8 kg)

http://www.onkyousa.com/model.cfm?m=...ss=Systems&p=s


5300
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Dimensions (W x H x D) -
Front 6 1/8" x 14 13/16" x 6 11/16" (155 x 375.5 x 170 mm) 6 lbs. (2.7 kg)
Center 16 9/16" x 4 1/2" x 4 3/4" (420 x 115 x 121 mm) 5.5 lbs. (2.5 kg)
Surround 4 1/2" x 9 1/16" x 3 3/4" (115 x 230 x 96 mm) 2.2 lbs. (1.0 kg)
Surround Back L/R 4 1/2" x 9 1/16" x 3 3/4" (115 x 230 x 96 mm) 2.2 lbs. (1.0 kg)

http://www.onkyousa.com/model.cfm?m=...ss=Systems&p=s

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Originally Posted by bellorusha View Post

but some spec are different as well

5300
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Front L/R 130 W/Channel (8 ohms, 1 kHz, FTC)
Center 130 W (8 ohms, 1 kHz, FTC)
Surround L/R 130 W/Channel (8 ohms, 1 kHz, FTC)
Surround Back L/R 130 W/Channel (8 ohms, 1 kHz, FTC)


6200
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Power Output -
Front L/R 130 W/Channel (6 ohms, 1 kHz)
Center 130 W (6 ohms, 1 kHz)
Surround L/R 130 W/Channel (6 ohms, 1 kHz)
Surround Back L/R 130 W/Channel (6 ohms, 1 kHz)


what is "6 ohms"?

also

5300
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Front/Center 2-way, bass reflex

Front 5" (12 cm) cone woofer,
1" (2.5 cm) balanced-dome tweeter
Center 3 1/4" (8 cm) cone woofer x 2,
1" (2.5 cm) balanced-dome tweeter


6200
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Front/Center 2-way

Front 4" (10 cm) cone woofer x 2
1" (2.5 cm) balanced-dome tweeter
Center 4" (10 cm) cone woofer x 2
1" (2.5 cm) balanced-dome tweeter


Does anybody understand this? Please advise.

Thanks

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Originally Posted by PACanesfan View Post

I got to listen to the 6200 today. The 6200 and the 5300 appear to have the same speakers from initial pictures. I was less then impressed with them. The highs were non existent and the mids were muddy. I think my 7 year old Sony satellites may sound better. I think the 5300 is going to be out for me. I think I am going to invest in good 5.1 speakers, then a decent receiver, then round it out with two floor standing when the cash comes along.

Another option for people. Vanns is reporting a 6300 coming out. No release date, or any info on Onkyo.com yet. Vanns has the full specs available.

sorry for the double post. i jumped on this thread from the second page. seems like the speakers will differ from the 6200 on the 5300...
post #50 of 784
TRIPLE POST!!!

onkyo has removed the "coming soon" corner tag and it now says "NEW" much like the 3300 did when it was released.

http://www.us.onkyo.com/prod_class.cfm?class=Systems
post #51 of 784
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Originally Posted by Pepelutivruski4 View Post

TRIPLE POST!!!

onkyo has removed the "coming soon" corner tag and it now says "NEW" much like the 3300 did when it was released.

http://www.us.onkyo.com/prod_class.cfm?class=Systems

Maybe they were just waiting for a certain number of pre-orders to release it early? Sooner is certainly better than later, and anything is better than the June 14 ship date Amazon gave me.
post #52 of 784
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Originally Posted by GenTso View Post

Maybe they were just waiting for a certain number of pre-orders to release it early? Sooner is certainly better than later, and anything is better than the June 14 ship date Amazon gave me.

do update us on that june 14 ship date.

i wanna buy from newegg since they are like 12 miles from me and i'll get same day delivery or overnite from standard shipping, BUT i'd rather buy it from the HDTV guys amazon mirror since i listen to their podcast all the time, but don't have it in me to donate since they never answer my questions.
post #53 of 784
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Originally Posted by Pepelutivruski4 View Post

sorry for the double post. i jumped on this thread from the second page. seems like the speakers will differ from the 6200 on the 5300...

Good catch on the different speakers. I may go back to the HHGreg tonight and get another listen. One thing I forgot to mention is the source material was FM radio. I would like to see if they can put a CD or iPod into it.
post #54 of 784
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Originally Posted by PACanesfan View Post

One thing I forgot to mention is the source material was FM radio. I would like to see if they can put a CD or iPod into it.

that's quite the detail to forget considering FM radio is famous for its high freq roll off.

i learned that the hard when i plugged my iPod into one of those FM transmitters for my car and turned on the treble booster in the iPod and had the mids and highs about 5-8 db above the lower frequencies on the head unit. even then was still rather muddy.

i'm having some real high hopes for this 5300 and i hope it turns out to be good for my home. it's just such a good deal.

will be putting lots of BDs, video games and FLACs from my music server through it and i hope it wows me. even knowing i'm using the "daewoo" of speakers.
post #55 of 784
If you've got 9" tall speakers that weight 2.4lbs, I'm gonna say they're pretty cheaply made. But Onkyo has to save money somewhere in order to make the package affordable.
post #56 of 784
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Originally Posted by afrogt View Post

If you've got 9" tall speakers that weight 2.4lbs, I'm gonna say they're pretty cheaply made. But Onkyo has to save money somewhere in order to make the package affordable.

I think you're confusing the specs for the 6200 with the 5300. The specs for the 5300 indicate the front and center speakers are significantly more heavy than the 6200 FWIW.

5300
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Dimensions (W x H x D) -
Front 6 1/8" x 14 13/16" x 6 11/16" (155 x 375.5 x 170 mm) 6 lbs. (2.7 kg)
Center 16 9/16" x 4 1/2" x 4 3/4" (420 x 115 x 121 mm) 5.5 lbs. (2.5 kg)
Surround 4 1/2" x 9 1/16" x 3 3/4" (115 x 230 x 96 mm) 2.2 lbs. (1.0 kg)
Surround Back L/R 4 1/2" x 9 1/16" x 3 3/4" (115 x 230 x 96 mm) 2.2 lbs. (1.0 kg)

6200
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Dimensions (W x H x D) -
Front 4 3/4" x 9 1/8" x 4 13/16" (120 x 231 x 122 mm) 2.4 lbs. (1.1 kg)
Center 9 1/8" x 4 3/4" x 5 1/16" (231 x 121 x 128 mm) 2.4 lbs. (1.1 kg)
Surround 4 3/4" x 9 1/8" x 4 13/16" (120 x 231 x 122 mm) 1.8 lbs. (0.8 kg)
Surround Back 4 3/4" x 9 1/8" x 4 13/16" (120 x 231 x 122 mm) 1.8 lbs. (0.8 kg)
post #57 of 784
Honestly Onkyo is not known for making speakers so arguing about them is pointless.

You want quality speakers go with a company that specializes in speakers, Onkyo specializes in recievers.

If you are debateing speakers you shouldn't be purchasing a HTIB, Purchase a separate reciever and then buy the speakers from there
post #58 of 784
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Originally Posted by crazyrob425 View Post

Honestly Onkyo is not known for making speakers so arguing about them is pointless.

You want quality speakers go with a company that specializes in speakers, Onkyo specializes in recievers.

If you are debateing speakers you shouldn't be purchasing a HTIB, Purchase a separate reciever and then buy the speakers from there



i'm poor therefor i can't debate the speakers i CAN afford. thank you for the reality check rob.

In other news, one of the local Fry's said they'd have a new onkyo HTiB in their demo floor next week. hoping it's the 5300, so i can just buy it there and then if i like it. which i'm sure my poor ass will.

the dude said "new" , "onkyo", "7.1".
the guys are Fry's are often **** for brains, but here's hoping.
post #59 of 784
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Originally Posted by snorton007 View Post

I have really been researching this new onkyo system, trying to figure out just exactly what all is different(Compared to the 5200 and 6200 htib series). One thing I noticed is that they dropped the Audyssey 2EQ technology down to the EQ. I believe this means that the speakers come already calibrated with factory presets and there would not be the option to auto setup with the mic...Am I wrong? Would I be better off waiting for a fire sale on the ht-s6200? Should I just go with separates? I don't mind spending a little extra if it is going to bring a little more comfort and confidence in my purchase....

Just placed a pre-order on the 5300 from my local Canadian authorized Onkyo retailer. Their website lists a shipping start date of May 10, 2010 so I'll keep you posted on whether that date becomes true or not. I too am a bit confused about the whole Audyssey EQ thing. I read up on the 2EQ and auto-calibration mic for the 6200, and it doesn't look like the 5300 has the same thing. So am I forced to listen to test tones on my own and guess the distance of each speaker? Or hire some professional to tune up my receiver? In the specs for the 5300 it says it has auto speaker configuration but then in the details it says Audyssey EQ no mic. So I'm confused what is auto about this...
post #60 of 784
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Originally Posted by wongnog View Post

So am I forced to listen to test tones on my own and guess the distance of each speaker? Or hire some professional to tune up my receiver? In the specs for the 5300 it says it has auto speaker configuration but then in the details it says Audyssey EQ no mic. So I'm confused what is auto about this...

You won't get a mic or any test tones - it's Audyssey EQ...based on the "typical room environment". You get presets based on the typical room. It's not a huge deal since you can determine configuration by looking at the specs, measure delay (distance) with a tape measure, and level with a meter or by ear. Still, the auto calibration feature makes it easier.

Last year this model offered fewer other features but better Audyssey features - this year more other features but lesser Audyssey features. Onkyo is smart in the way they create desire with these lower HTiBs...
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