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Small round wall plug for HDMI cable run? (I have no idea what it's called)

post #1 of 17
3/16/10 at 2:04pm
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Here is the situation. I'm going to be running a HDMI cable (24 awg) up inside a wall from just above the baseboard to come out at the top (straight up, 8 foot ceilings). The cable will then run behind a beam to my projector.

Since it's just a HDMI cable and I don't have any gang boxes to put a wall plate into, I'm looking for a little round plug of some type I can insert into the hole I have to cut in the dry wall. I'd also prefer to avoid a huge wall plate in two places for ascetics purposes. I'm thinking of something round that would be flush on the outside that could just sit in there based on a snug fit (or perhaps glue).

Any idea what something like that would be called and where I could get it from? I find it hard to believe something like this doesn't exist out there somewhere.

Sorry to have to make a new thread for something so silly, but I've spent the last hour searching the net and haven't been able to find anything. Thanks in advance for any assistance!
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post #2 of 17
3/16/10 at 2:20pm
You mean like this....

http://cgi.ebay.com/Cord-Cable-Wire-...item2556e23bc0
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post #3 of 17
3/17/10 at 7:23am
Here are some wall plates with an offset angled hole to allw cables to come out.

http://www.parts-express.com/wizards...AT&srchCat=948
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post #4 of 17
3/17/10 at 9:07am
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Originally Posted by Crash11 View Post

You mean like this....

http://cgi.ebay.com/Cord-Cable-Wire-...item2556e23bc0

I was thinking there would be something specifically made for walls and maybe white, but something like that should work. Beggars can't be choosers after all. I may have to cut the end a bit but that's great thanks!

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Here are some wall plates with an offset angled hole to allw cables to come out.

http://www.parts-express.com/wizards...AT&srchCat=948

Thanks but I've seen though, the idea is I would like to avoid wall plates. Thanks anyway.
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post #5 of 17
3/17/10 at 10:15am
Google 'desk grommet'. They come in a variety of sizes, colors, and styles.
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post #6 of 17
3/17/10 at 11:48am
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Originally Posted by Ssseth View Post

I was thinking there would be something specifically made for walls and maybe white, but something like that should work. Beggars can't be choosers after all. I may have to cut the end a bit but that's great thanks!


There is somethign specifically made for walls. It is called a Wall Plate.

If you want a grommet, they sell them at home improvement stores and hardware stores, like Ace Hardware, Lowes, Home Depot. Not sure what you have in Canada though, maybe a Meynards? Usually they are located in the area with all teh drawers of bolts, nuts and other misc hardware.
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post #7 of 17
3/17/10 at 3:59pm
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Originally Posted by Lee L View Post

There is somethign specifically made for walls. It is called a Wall Plate.

If you want a grommet, they sell them at home improvement stores and hardware stores, like Ace Hardware, Lowes, Home Depot. Not sure what you have in Canada though, maybe a Meynards? Usually they are located in the area with all teh drawers of bolts, nuts and other misc hardware.

We have Home Depot.


Thanks the help everyone!
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post #8 of 17
3/18/10 at 10:44pm
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After talking with someone who has done this before I'm thinking it may be pretty hard to run a 24 awg HDMI cable up a wall with insulation in it when I only have a small 1" or even 2" circle to work with.

I'm opening up to the idea of a faceplate. I don't have any gang boxes in this location though. He mentioned something about a gang box that can attach itself to the wall by tightening a screw? What are those called and does monoprice or Blue Jeans sell them? I'm buying the HDMI cable and switch I need from them so it would be easy to add to the cart
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post #9 of 17
3/19/10 at 12:17am
He's thinking of an 'old work box' like this:

http://www.mcmelectronics.com/produc...-UPC-/28-17035

It has wings which pop up when you tighten the screws. Being that the HDMI is low voltage, you can also you a low voltage old work bracket like this:

http://www.mcmelectronics.com/produc...00RR-/28-17175


Home Depot will have both of these for a couple of bucks.
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post #10 of 17
3/19/10 at 7:46am
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Originally Posted by eskay View Post

He's thinking of an 'old work box' like this:

http://www.mcmelectronics.com/produc...-UPC-/28-17035

It has wings which pop up when you tighten the screws. Being that the HDMI is low voltage, you can also you a low voltage old work bracket like this:

http://www.mcmelectronics.com/produc...00RR-/28-17175


Home Depot will have both of these for a couple of bucks.

Awesome thanks. What is the difference between the two? The one that is deeper would make it more difficult to find the fish tape wouldn't it? I can't seem to find it on Home Depot's website. Are the called something else perhaps?

Cheers & thanks again!
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post #11 of 17
3/19/10 at 8:33am
Unless this is a condo with a firewall, just go with the orange low voltage braket that is open. Much easier.

Cut your hole first and test fit the bracket to make sure it fits, then put it aside. Run your wires, then you can thread the bracket on and attach it to the wall, then thread the plate on and attach it to the bracket.

Also, just go ahead and get a dual gang instead of single. Much easier to work with since you can get your hand and forearm in and search around for the wire, which always seems to come down slightly away from the hole.
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post #12 of 17
3/19/10 at 10:31am
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Originally Posted by Ssseth View Post

Awesome thanks. What is the difference between the two? The one that is deeper would make it more difficult to find the fish tape wouldn't it? I can't seem to find it on Home Depot's website. Are the called something else perhaps?

Cheers & thanks again!

Lee outlined the correct steps. On the Home Depot site, search for "old work". The orange two gang bracket isn't listed, but they probably have it in store.

Check this out too:

http://www.hammerzone.com/archives/e...oldworkbox.htm

Same procedure for the low voltage bracket.
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post #13 of 17
3/19/10 at 2:51pm
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I think I'll stay way from a double gang single I didn't even want a single. I'll probably buy the grommet and old work box. I'll start with the grommet and move to a bigger hole and the old work box if I can't get it to work with that.

Thanks for the advice!
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post #14 of 17
3/22/10 at 8:08am
Just don't buy the complete blue "box" unless you need it for some reason. There is no way to get a HDMI cable in there without drilling with a hole saw as the boxes are designed for running ROMEX electrical wire not terminated cables.

Whatever you do, you want the orange ring that just is the front of the actual box with no back or you will be super frustrated.

This is what you want, from previously in the thread. http://www.mcmelectronics.com/produc...00RR-/28-17175
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post #15 of 17
3/22/10 at 10:26am
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Originally Posted by Lee L View Post

Just don't buy the complete blue "box" unless you need it for some reason. There is no way to get a HDMI cable in there without drilling with a hole saw as the boxes are designed for running ROMEX electrical wire not terminated cables.

Whatever you do, you want the orange ring that just is the front of the actual box with no back or you will be super frustrated.

This is what you want, from previously in the thread. http://www.mcmelectronics.com/produc...00RR-/28-17175

Yup thanks, I found the orange ones at my local Home Depot. I just have to wait for the 50ft HDMI (24 awg) cable from Blue Jeans cables to come in now!

I'm worried about how to pull the cable up the wall without straining the solder points in the cable connector too much. Any tips to avoid that? It will be a tight fit since it's an outside wall in the basement so there is insulation in there.
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post #16 of 17
3/23/10 at 7:46am
There are a few threads here about fishing walls, but a fish tape or fish stick is what yoiu want. If you are lucky, you can slip the wire in front of the inuslation and vapor barrier and it will be easy. Since you do not have too far to go, you should not have too much of a problem stressing the connectors, but you can always do the bulk of taping the wire to teh fishing device on the wire itself to help with that.
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post #17 of 17
3/23/10 at 8:05am
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Originally Posted by Lee L View Post

There are a few threads here about fishing walls, but a fish tape or fish stick is what yoiu want. If you are lucky, you can slip the wire in front of the inuslation and vapor barrier and it will be easy. Since you do not have too far to go, you should not have too much of a problem stressing the connectors, but you can always do the bulk of taping the wire to teh fishing device on the wire itself to help with that.

I was planning on going with fish tape. Sounds great, thanks again for all your help.
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