The Official LG xxPK550 Owner's Discussion Thread [no price talk] - Page 9

Originally Posted by MBKCPA

64ms seems high though i'm not sure... do you notice any input delay when you are playing rock band at all? input lag is a huge thing for me and from what i've heard panasonics/samsungs aren't too bad... but those numbers on the LG seem high. how does the glare compare to panasonic/samsung? i've heard good things about the pk550...

Originally Posted by walt73

Yeah 64ms is very high; weren't they around 30ms last year, with <30 for Panasonic and 30-50 for Samsung?


In the "Game Mode" settings maybe set Colour Gamut to Normal (if it lets you do this) -- reduce colour processing to speed it up?

Originally Posted by walt73

One thing though, is that Guitar Hero test an actual input lag test like some guys do with laptop, CRT and camera? is it giving real #s?

I know on my 2009 LG LCDs (LH 20 and 30) I noticed a tiny bit of lag as against my old CRT, but these were measured around 30ms which is low for LCD.

Originally Posted by shaddix

I posted photos on the previous page of my PK550 alongside my crt monitor with a duplicated stopwatch

But yes, I will explain the RB2 calibration.
The game will output beeps about 1 second apart, you hold the guitar, which has a microphone built into it up to the tv. The game then uses the microphone on the guitar to determine how long it is taking the beeps to get through your tv's sound system.
It does the same with the video, it flashes bright white on the screen about 1s apart and you hold the guitar up to the screen and it detects the time between when it knows the flash was sent from the PS3 til when the guitar sensor picks it up.
It gives you an actual readout in milliseconds of how much lag there is.

I would post a video but youtube seems to be down...

Originally Posted by walt73

OK thanks,that was dumb of me to miss it ... yep, looks like a good test.

But 308 on the CRT, 222 on the LG ... 308 - 222 = 86 ???! difference? So there's an assumed 26 ms lag before the signal gets to the CRT?

EDIT Make that 22 ms extra lag in the test if we're saying 64ms on the display?

Originally Posted by kabouter

The picture looks pretty dim, what is your brightness set at? I was ready to pull the trigger and buy this tv, but after seeing those pictures I am seriously considering just going for a 52" lcd, too bad because it could have saved me quite a lot of money .

Originally Posted by Mauri

I strongly recommend you to don't go inside the Service Menu. There is nothing interesting inside the Service menu that is not also available from the OSD.

Trust me, my friend, forget the Service Menu. I know many people that have damaged their TV, or that have had the dub to have changed something. I'm a I.T. Tech, and I know what I'm telling you (I know also how to open the service menu of my LG, and what options are inside it).

Originally Posted by kabouter

The picture looks pretty dim, what is your brightness set at? I was ready to pull the trigger and buy this tv, but after seeing those pictures I am seriously considering just going for a 52" lcd, too bad because it could have saved me quite a lot of money .

Originally Posted by shane0049

Few posts on here already regarding the TV looking like a mirror when it's turned off. Few posts on here from people who own the TV, like me, and have it at home and have commented that when the TV is turned on the reflection/glare is a non-issue. If your going to make a statement that after looking at the TV in a store with tons of lighting that you can't bring yourself to pick up a set w/o a filter, then your right. You need a filter. BTW, this forum is titled: The Official LG xxPK550 Owners Discussion. Not the: Make some dumb statement about a TV I don't own but looked at in a store with a ton of lighting and decided I need a TV with a filter.

Originally Posted by MBKCPA

shaddix, has the lag effected your gameplay at all? the hdmi seems high... are you experiencing any issues when playing? and thanks for the glare videos--it really isn't that bad. the tv looks great btw.

Originally Posted by MBKCPA

sorry, i went back and saw you had responded to me in the previous page so i edited my response... i'm glad you responded to my old post though because it answered a lot of my questions. if you only notice 1 frame of lag, that's not that bad. the game i mostly play is 60fps, but there are some "just frame" inputs that require precise timining so i don't know if it will be an issue. i see now you lotice lag on PC--sorry to hear that. what sets will you be looking at now?

Originally Posted by MBKCPA

haha, YEP. i'm looking for a plasma because the DLP i bought (wd-65c9) is too big for my room. funny thing is i haven't had any problems with input when playing on the mitsu 65 DLP... but now i need a plasma that will fit in my room so i'm considering the pn58b550, tc-p58s1 and this LG. do you play as well?

Originally Posted by halokilla77

I wasn't aware that Plasma could get dead/stuck pixels, I thought it was only on LCD/LEDs.

Originally Posted by barrist

Chad B:

Did you notice any of the image processing issues that AVFOrums did on the 950?

http://www.avforums.com/reviews/LG-5...TV-Review.html

Originally Posted by unap16

The input lag time is most disappointing.

Shaddix, do you notice anything in person while playing fast paced games such as a action adventure game or something from shooter genre?

Originally Posted by walt73

Another thought -- if it is a fixed sharpening setting, could LG issue a firmware update which disables it or allows it to be toggled?

Originally Posted by shaddix

I used to play tag, I have T6 but no arcade sticks.. ps3 controllers do not work properly with the game so I haven't been able to play it. I would never play tekken on this LG man, I am going to hold on to my sony wega and if I ever pick up some nice arcade sticks I will play on that thing.

Think about not seeing that 8 frame jab until its 4 frames into the action. If I was going to get a plasma for tekken I would most definitely not go with LG. I'll keep this LG because I'm tired of doing everything else but games on a 34" screen. And I can still play stuff like rpgs, single player action games, etc on it. And it's a good price.
I will probably pick up a panasonic next year for gaming assuming they have fixed the rising blacks problem. Til then it will be CRT ONRY for anything time critical like tekken.

Originally Posted by MBKCPA

yeah once you started posting on the input lag i began steering away from LG. i think the best is panasonic and truth be told from what i've read about the blacks, the rise is less substantial on the larger S units, and even after they rise, i think the blacks are still better than the competition (PN58B550), but i'm still not ready to pull the trigger on one.

i'm really suprised that the mitsubishi 65 DLP seems to have little to no lag when playing tekken. my combo timing has not changed at all from my toshiba CRT and i've actually been blocking better since then, which i interpret as no increase in lag from the toshiba to the mitsu DLP--its just that i've improved my blocking and punishment is all.

BUT, i need a plasma for the room and right now its still between TC-p58s1 and PN58B550...