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post #1141 of 1608
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Originally Posted by taz291819 View Post

I'm running an E6600 overclocked to 3.2Ghz, with a ATI HD2900XT (software decode only). I don't have many problems with stuttering. When I do, I simply hit "pause", wait 3 seconds, then resume, and the stuttering goes away.

Instead of upgrading your graphics card, upgrade the CPU, it may even be cheaper.

I wouldn't upgrade graphics cards until everything settles, especially if you go ATI. I don't believe any current ATI cards have hardware acceleration for 3D BD with PDVD yet.

It is a consideration but it is kind of a shot in the dark. If I don't get enough CPU then I still have an underperforming system that needs a graphics card. A quad core would do it, but then I have an energy hog.
post #1142 of 1608
oh lord...besides still not being able to playback HD audio I now have a new problem:
in Powerdvd the navigation bar at the bottom and the bar on the top stay when playing back a 3d blu-ray :-((
I really start hating my HTPC...
post #1143 of 1608
so, my confusion is perfect now!
on my setup (latest PowerDVD, Panasonic 3d TV, Auzentech Home Theater HD, Geforce 240 with latest HDMI 1.4 drivers and Marantz SR 7005 AVR capable of new HD audio formats) I experienced problems EVERYWHERE. After three days of trying out all different kind of things I now got at least a working PICTURE. And the only way to achieve this was for me to set my desktop to EXTENDED. I never got it to work with a dummy video sent to my AVR. But the sound is a whole different story...
I never got it to work like Auzentech says. When I select SPEAKERS as output device and in Auzentech console the settings "use standard hardware" and "speakers to HDMI" and speakers detection switch I do not get any sound out of my system when I chose HDMI in PowerDVD. I only get sound then when I select 8 speakers. HDMI in PowerDVD only works when I select Auzentech HDMI out as standard device. And this one is listed without HDCP and is limited to 96kHz. So no HD audio for me (sure thing I selected "HD audio to external device" in PowerDVD!). I only get DD 5.1 and DTS 5.1.
Now even 5.1 channel PCM does not work propably anymore (no surround speakers during playback!).
So I now really don't understand what's going on. Which playback devices should I chose? Speakers, Auzentech HDMI, Marantz AVR (HDCP ready and all sample rates supported) or a combination? I don't understand what the difference is between "standard device" and "standard communication device".
I hope somebody can help me.
Thanks so much
post #1144 of 1608
try taking the receiver out of the equation and connect directly to the tv and see if the problem still persists...
post #1145 of 1608
may this be the solution for me?
http://blogs.blackmarble.co.uk/blogs...and-vista.aspx

but I cannot merge the extension bloc into the inf on my Panasonic TV (so that this one has audio info as well) and my Marantz only shows up correctly only as real time device but not in the registry
post #1146 of 1608
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Originally Posted by olli66 View Post

may this be the solution for me?
http://blogs.blackmarble.co.uk/blogs...and-vista.aspx

but I cannot merge the extension bloc into the inf on my Panasonic TV (so that this one has audio info as well) and my Marantz only shows up correctly only as real time device but not in the registry

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...5#post19269405
post #1147 of 1608
Anyone getting 3D and Full HD-Bitstreaming to actually work yet?
post #1148 of 1608
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Originally Posted by RobertStern View Post

Anyone getting 3D and Full HD-Bitstreaming to actually work yet?

Funny ever since I switched back to the GT 220 to my main rig, I'm not really missing my ATi 5670's bitstreaming. GT 220 PCM using WASAPI exclusive and MPC-HC it sounds good on my system and really I have no complaints. I think I'm going to stick with my GT 220 for a while as it can do everything I want.

My setup is running two HDMI/DVI from the card one to the SC-07 and the DVI/HDMI out to the TV using the Panny as the primary clone. This way it see's the 1.4 HDMI and can do 3D with lossless using either Win 10 or PDVD coming out of the SC-07 from HDMI 2. So in other words I don't have to switch inputs to watch 3D on the TV just hit the 3D switch in the control panel and bam your there. The only drawback is I have to use two HDMI cables and treat the TV's other input as a wasted dummy.

But this is the only way to get Stereoscopic 3D and lossless on my rig without having to switch TV inputs back and forth and I'm fine with that. I kind of have it set up like my BDT 300 that uses two HDMI's one for audio and the other for 3D video and the GT 220 handles this very well the only thing you don't get is your front panel on your AVR saying dts-HD MA/True HD and PDVD's downsampled audio but that's why WASAPI Exclusive is here to save the day and saving me some money in the process. I have no desire to get a new card with 3D and bitstreaming capability's, the GT 220 is holding it's own.
post #1149 of 1608
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Originally Posted by RobertStern View Post

Anyone getting 3D and Full HD-Bitstreaming to actually work yet?

Yes. Had to use two HDMI cables because my AVR is only HDMI 1.3.
post #1150 of 1608
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Originally Posted by babgvant View Post

Yes. Had to use two HDMI cables because my AVR is only HDMI 1.3.

How did you use 2 Hdmi cables from a HTPC ? What video card are you using ?
post #1151 of 1608
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Originally Posted by rickcfer View Post

How did you use 2 Hdmi cables from a HTPC ? What video card are you using ?

Nvidia 450, w/ one mini-HDMI and two DVI. All of the ports pass audio so I'm using some DVI->HDMI adapters.
post #1152 of 1608
I am having trouble with audio under PowerDVD 10 Ultra....

If I put in a Bluray Disc I get full bitstream audio to my AVR.. However if I play back an .mkv I get no audio. The audio option even goes away from the settings menu if I attempt to play a TrueHD movie. If I play DTS-MA, I get the Audio Setting back, however selecting HDMI gives me no output options and still no sound. Whats going on here?

I can play the .mkv back in MPC-HC and get bitstream. BTW running windows 7, Radeon 5670, latest catalyst drivers.

I know nothing is wrong with my files, I feel like its something with the codecs I previously had installed maybe? I have removed everything such as ffdshow etc...

Edit: I installed the community codec pack and uninstalled it to make sure all associations were removed. I installed the updated/newest Realtek drivers. I can now get audio for dtsma playback, but no option to select bitstreamed/high-def passthrough, only DTS etc. However when I attempt to play a TrueHD .mkv, I get a runtime error and cannot start playback at all!
post #1153 of 1608
What version of Power DVD is required for 450 GTS bitstreaming? (Standard, Deluxe or Ultra)

Audio quality ok with the 450's? Going to be using it for gaming audio as well to a Denon 2310 AVR.

Thanks!
post #1154 of 1608
The latest version of PDVD10 is required. Doesn't look like PDVD9 will be updated to support it. Audio quality is great. Matches my 5870 pound for pound.
post #1155 of 1608
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Originally Posted by SamuriHL View Post

The latest version of PDVD10 is required. Doesn't look like PDVD9 will be updated to support it. Audio quality is great. Matches my 5870 pound for pound.

Yes, the latest version but does it make a difference whether its Standard or Ultra?

Thanks
post #1156 of 1608
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Originally Posted by Pyrophoric View Post

Yes, the latest version but does it make a difference whether its Standard or Ultra?

Yes, you need Ultra.
post #1157 of 1608
Sorry if this has been asked already in this thread, but I searched and could not find the answer, both in the thread and all over the internet.

I understand that the new version works on 64-bit windows 7. Thats great, but is there actually a 64-bit version of Power DVD? The only dl I can find is for a 32-bit version that runs on x64. Is that the only option?
post #1158 of 1608
That is the only option, correct. In order to do a 64 bit version, they'd have to rewrite all their code and they're not likely to do that for absolutely no benefit.
post #1159 of 1608
When upgrading from Power DVD 9 Ultra it doesn't require I put in a key code to purchase. Does it require Power DVD 9 be installed before it will work? If so, do you have to reinstall Power DVD 9 every single time you format then upgrade to 10?

Thanks
post #1160 of 1608
To simplify my post/question above,

are you guys able to play .mkv from PowerDVD 10 and bitstream TrueHD/DTS MA?? I can only get it to work when playing an actual blu-ray disc.
post #1161 of 1608
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Originally Posted by Pyrophoric View Post

When upgrading from Power DVD 9 Ultra it doesn't require I put in a key code to purchase. Does it require Power DVD 9 be installed before it will work? If so, do you have to reinstall Power DVD 9 every single time you format then upgrade to 10?

Thanks

Yes. Although I've personally found ways around that by backing up certain things and restoring them as needed if I have to reinstall. I backup the registry entries and zip up the PDVD directory so that I don't have to deal with having to wait for a full reinstall.
post #1162 of 1608
I have never been able to play those formats through mkv regardless of my setups. Months ago I was trying to figure out a way but it requires remuxing the format back in or something which enlarges the file ... bottom line I didn't worry about it.
post #1163 of 1608
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Originally Posted by slopokdave View Post

To simplify my post/question above,

are you guys able to play .mkv from PowerDVD 10 and bitstream TrueHD/DTS MA?? I can only get it to work when playing an actual blu-ray disc.

BAHAHAHA. Ok, sorry, I'll stop laughing now. Yea, PDVD10's MKV support doesn't handle HD audio. According to what we've been told they follow the MKV spec and that doesn't officially include HD audio. I think they've made some progress with decoding it to LPCM, but, I've not tested it to see what exactly we get with that.
post #1164 of 1608
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Originally Posted by SamuriHL View Post

Yes. Although I've personally found ways around that by backing up certain things and restoring them as needed if I have to reinstall. I backup the registry entries and zip up the PDVD directory so that I don't have to deal with having to wait for a full reinstall.

Ok, guess I am SOL as I no longer have the dvd or code to upgrade from.

Thanks for the help!
post #1165 of 1608
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Originally Posted by Pyrophoric View Post

Ok, guess I am SOL as I no longer have the dvd or code to upgrade from.

Thanks for the help!

This will give you that feeling in the pit of your stomach, but, contact support and see what they can do. I understand the feeling of dread at that suggestion.
post #1166 of 1608
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Originally Posted by SamuriHL View Post

This will give you that feeling in the pit of your stomach, but, contact support and see what they can do. I understand the feeling of dread at that suggestion.

Yeah, dread is an understatement but I will try my luck.

Thanks again!
post #1167 of 1608
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Originally Posted by SamuriHL View Post

BAHAHAHA. Ok, sorry, I'll stop laughing now. Yea, PDVD10's MKV support doesn't handle HD audio. According to what we've been told they follow the MKV spec and that doesn't officially include HD audio. I think they've made some progress with decoding it to LPCM, but, I've not tested it to see what exactly we get with that.

Have fun laughing at my attempt to get this working for a good 6+ hours? Now that is HAHA... Thanks for the info. Ugh.
post #1168 of 1608
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Originally Posted by slopokdave View Post

Have fun laughing at my attempt to get this working for a good 6+ hours? Now that is HAHA... Thanks for the info. Ugh.

Oh I wasn't laughing at your attempts at getting it to work. Simply the idea that it would work. No commercial player has great support for MKV's with HD audio. TMT can decode it to LPCM but has a bug in TrueHD support. I THOUGHT PDVD had better support in recent builds but it would still only be for decoding to PCM. I know I tried before but not in the latest builds. So I'm not sure what comes out. But you'd definitely have to set it to decoded to LPCM and not bitstreaming. If you want bitstreaming, you're looking at freeware solutions.
post #1169 of 1608
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Originally Posted by SamuriHL View Post

That is the only option, correct. In order to do a 64 bit version, they'd have to rewrite all their code and they're not likely to do that for absolutely no benefit.

They wouldn't have to re-write the code, just re-compile it. And there would certainly be a benefit in that it would allow the program to access more memory. Playing BDs is a resource-expensive task. Having access to more could improve performance.

In any event, thanks for the response.
post #1170 of 1608
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Originally Posted by edthatalkinhorse View Post

They wouldn't have to re-write the code, just re-compile it. And there would certainly be a benefit in that it would allow the program to access more memory. Playing BDs is a resource-expensive task. Having access to more could improve performance.

In any event, thanks for the response.

Writing a native 64 bit application is not a trivial task. Unless you force every customer to run a 64 bit OS, it means you must support 2 versions of the same application - doubling your Quality Assurance effort. Samuri is right... there is little or no benefit to doing so at this point for PowerDVD. The standard memory limit for a 32 bit app on Windows is 2 Gigabytes, and PowerDVD 10 never comes close to requiring this much memory, even under the most challenging circumstances.

Of course, PowerDVD is fully supported on both 32 bit and 64 bit versions of Windows.

Tom
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