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post #1171 of 1609
Tom,

what frame rate does pdvd use for playback? does it use the contents frame rate or does it use some kind of pull-down to match the monitors refresh rate? if the latter, how does this apply to TrueTheater Motion which is supposed to adjust/increase the frame rate?
post #1172 of 1609
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Originally Posted by edthatalkinhorse View Post

They wouldn't have to re-write the code, just re-compile it. And there would certainly be a benefit in that it would allow the program to access more memory. Playing BDs is a resource-expensive task. Having access to more could improve performance.

In any event, thanks for the response.

It's not that simple with unmanaged (i.e. C/C++) languages at all, even .NET is not completely portable b/w 32/64 bit once you start doing more interesting things with the platform.
post #1173 of 1609
Yea, it's definitely NOT a matter of just recompiling it. There is definitely a lot more involved. I, too, have wished for a native 64 bit version, but, for this kind of app, there's not a lot of benefit right now. Personally, I'd rather they spent time converting to Media Foundation Classes for more stability. I can understand the desire for a native 64 bit app, but, trust us, it's not trivial and really not all that beneficial.

(P.S. my reason for wanting native 64 bit has nothing to do with memory usage. I'd like to use the PDVD codecs with 64 bit apps like 7MC )
post #1174 of 1609
I cannot select to enable hardware acceleration as of today when playing DVD mkv's. Something changed, but I cannot figure out what.

I was having a problem where .mkv thumbnails were causing windows explorer to crash. I fixed this, but somehow it affected my ability to enable the hardware acceleration. PowerDVD 10 says my video card is "ATI Avivo" or something in the video menu, but its grayed out to select it.

I've uninstalled all codecs. Reinstalled. Reinstalled ATI Catalyst (latest). I cant figure it out?
post #1175 of 1609
I posted awhile back about powerdvd not playing my 3D files on my computer. I have since gotten that resolved but now I have a new problem. When I select checkerboard 3D ouput from powerdvd I can see the checkerboards on the image with my glasses on.

My Directv works fine with my Mits 73738, my PS3 will play 3D just fine, now I'm down to my HTPC.

*Note: Yes, I have 3D turned on on the TV, and yes I have it set for checkerboard.

Here are pictures of what I am seeing.

This is what I am seeing with the glasses off:
http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/2817/dsc05201v.jpg

This is what I am seeing with the glasses on:
http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/5533/dsc05202t.jpg
post #1176 of 1609
Basically it sounds like the ir transmitter isn't turning on to enable your glasses?

Have you upgraded PDVD recently, as I had this problem with the latest build and had to go back to a previous release.

I have the same tv, are you using the Mits 3D box?

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Originally Posted by TViewer2000 View Post

I posted awhile back about powerdvd not playing my 3D files on my computer. I have since gotten that resolved but now I have a new problem. When I select checkerboard 3D ouput from powerdvd I can see the checkerboards on the image with my glasses on.

My Directv works fine with my Mits 73738, my PS3 will play 3D just fine, now I'm down to my HTPC.

*Note: Yes, I have 3D turned on on the TV, and yes I have it set for checkerboard.

Here are pictures of what I am seeing.

This is what I am seeing with the glasses off:
http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/2817/dsc05201v.jpg

This is what I am seeing with the glasses on:
http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/5533/dsc05202t.jpg
post #1177 of 1609
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Originally Posted by RobertStern View Post

Basically it sounds like the ir transmitter isn't turning on to enable your glasses?

Have you upgraded PDVD recently, as I had this problem with the latest build and had to go back to a previous release.

I have the same tv, are you using the Mits 3D box?



I have the most recent version of PDVD. When I turn the glasses on the image gets darker and the checkerboard format becomes visable. When I turn the glasses off I see the double image but no checkerboard. I am running directly into the TV since the TV should support checkerboard format. Are you running your HTPC through the 3D Box?
post #1178 of 1609
I have an i3 2.93ghz with an HD5450 driving a WD-82837 Mits DLP. I am using the Mits IR Emitter and Samsung = Mits IR Active Shutter glasses with the emitter plugged into the TV. When I manually selct checkerboard in PDVD10 and enable 3d in the Mits menu, it all works. The only problem is that the system is not fast enough to eliminate stutter.

I have the 3d adapter (just got a working one over the weekend) but I have never used it with the HTPC. I have only run the adapter with the PS3 and it works fine.. The adapter screws the white levels up and on my set completely clip WTW. The Mits adapter has no problem with decoding frame packed 3d from the PS3.

My set is a 2009. If you do not have a 2010 Mits DLP that allows you to select to enable/disable 3d DLP Link from the menu the experience with the emitter driven glasses will be poor. Everything will have a cyan cast and the blacks will be gray. The best current solution to this on the earlier Mits 3d ready (2009 and before) sets is to use DLP Link glasses like the Viewsonics and not use the emitter.

I have a GTS 430 coming, I don't know what combination of CPU and AMD GPU would be required to get smooth playback in Cyberlink. I suspect a quad core I7 and a 57xx card should work. I hate to make the switch to the Nvidia card as everything is working perfectly except for 3d right now.

I use a DVDO Duo VP as my switcher and CMS, so everything goes through it. I was very surprised to see the above whites (WTW) blow out when the Mits 3d apater was put in line. Fortunately with the Duo I am able to adjust contrast and brightness per input. I had to lower contrast -10 on the Duo to restore above whites, then I raised the TV contrast to + 10 above the normally correct leveld. This brought the peak brightness back to essentially the same level as before the contrast adjustment made in the Duo. With this combination of settings I had no more clipping of whites or colors. It did screw up my color some and I will have to put the meter on the set and adjust the color gamut and the grayscale for the 99th time. I did not look for banding yet, but it could be expected by making such large adjustments. The Mits adapter would not work if the Duo was directly attached to the TV. I had to use this chaning TV> Mits adapter > DVDO Duo > PS3/Source device

If you can I would avoid the adapter, it provides no benefit if you have a checkerboard source device.
post #1179 of 1609
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Originally Posted by gtgray View Post

I have an i3 2.93ghz with an HD5450 driving a WD-82837 Mits DLP. I am using the Mits IR Emitter and Samsung = Mits IR Active Shutter glasses with the emitter plugged into the TV. When I manually selct checkerboard in PDVD10 and enable 3d in the Mits menu, it all works. The only problem is that the system is not fast enough to eliminate stutter.

I have the 3d adapter (just got a working one over the weekend) but I have never used it with the HTPC. I have only run the adapter with the PS3 and it works fine.. The adapter screws the white levels up and on my set completely clip WTW. The Mits adapter has no problem with decoding frame packed 3d from the PS3.

My set is a 2009. If you do not have a 2010 Mits DLP that allows you to select to enable/disable 3d DLP Link from the menu the experience with the emitter driven glasses will be poor. Everything will have a cyan cast and the blacks will be gray. The best current solution to this on the earlier Mits 3d ready (2009 and before) sets is to use DLP Link glasses like the Viewsonics and not use the emitter.

I have a GTS 430 coming, I don't know what combination of CPU and AMD GPU would be required to get smooth playback in Cyberlink. I suspect a quad core I7 and a 57xx card should work. I hate to make the switch to the Nvidia card as everything is working perfectly except for 3d right now.

I use a DVDO Duo VP as my switcher and CMS, so everything goes through it. I was very surprised to see the above whites (WTW) blow out when the Mits 3d apater was put in line. Fortunately with the Duo I am able to adjust contrast and brightness per input. I had to lower contrast -10 on the Duo to restore above whites, then I raised the TV contrast to + 10 above the normally correct leveld. This brought the peak brightness back to essentially the same level as before the contrast adjustment made in the Duo. With this combination of settings I had no more clipping of whites or colors. It did screw up my color some and I will have to put the meter on the set and adjust the color gamut and the grayscale for the 99th time. I did not look for banding yet, but it could be expected by making such large adjustments. The Mits adapter would not work if the Duo was directly attached to the TV. I had to use this chaning TV> Mits adapter > DVDO Duo > PS3/Source device

If you can I would avoid the adapter, it provides no benefit if you have a checkerboard source device.


Well I found out one of the problems, I set the overscan to 0% and that caused the checkboard view to go away. So success on that front. Only problem with that is that the desktop is now extending past the outer edge of the TV. Is there a way to fix this or is this just what happens for the 1:1? I don't know why you are having issues with your computer. I have an AMD 245 2.9 GHz CPU and 5670 video card and the movie doesn't stutter at all.

Now on a side note, the 3D is working in the fact that the checkboard is gone, however the 3D image seperates depending on how far the image is supposted to come out at you on the screen. So things that are technically in middle depth looks fine, images in the foreground and background will start seperating into a douple image the farther you get from the main stage. Are you getting this effect? I don't get this when I play the movie through the PS3.
post #1180 of 1609
Sorry if this was posted before, but is there a way to fix the low volume issue with PowerDVD 10 HD?
post #1181 of 1609
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Originally Posted by platjive View Post

Sorry if this was posted before, but is there a way to fix the low volume issue with PowerDVD 10 HD?

Hmm, I have the opposite problem.

PowerDVD 10 is the ONLY application that I've run in Windows 7 (x64 Ultimate) that does not remember it's volume level in Volume Mixer. It *always* starts out maxed out and I have to manually lower it. Very annoying playing clips or music that blasts you out of your seat before you have a chance to lower the volume.

Also lowering the volume or raising it raises the overall volume of the desktop. It's not like Media Player, or PowerDVD 7 where you could raise or lower the volume in the application and not affect other things.

And I still can't play VC-1 material in 7.3, even with the latest nVidia drivers that came out Monday.
post #1182 of 1609
Hi. I just downloaded the trial version of PowerDVD. When playing a playlist of video files in random order, does anyone know if it's possible to not have the "stopped" message come up at the end of each video, and to also not have the "play" message come up at the beginning of each video? Thanks
post #1183 of 1609
Quote:
Originally Posted by TViewer2000 View Post

Well I found out one of the problems, I set the overscan to 0% and that caused the checkboard view to go away. So success on that front. Only problem with that is that the desktop is now extending past the outer edge of the TV. Is there a way to fix this or is this just what happens for the 1:1? I don't know why you are having issues with your computer. I have an AMD 245 2.9 GHz CPU and 5670 video card and the movie doesn't stutter at all.

Now on a side note, the 3D is working in the fact that the checkboard is gone, however the 3D image seperates depending on how far the image is supposted to come out at you on the screen. So things that are technically in middle depth looks fine, images in the foreground and background will start seperating into a douple image the farther you get from the main stage. Are you getting this effect? I don't get this when I play the movie through the PS3.

With checkerboard you have to run without any scaling. I have zero problems with achieveing checkerboard or 3d.. just stuttering. It was very bad with the E4500 and the CPU cores were maxing out. Then with the ATI Radeon I was seeing 50-70 perc cent cpu utilization.. and a stutter every five seconds. Switched to the GT 430 and only slightly better on the stuttering. I don't have an answer at this point. I did not look at CPU utilization on checkerboard 3d with the GT430 but if the driver is working right it should be down to a very low number. I don't know if this a Cyberlink problem since I see essentially the same performance with the HD5450 which does not decode 3d Blu-Ray and the GT 430 which is supposed.

As for the desktop not being scaled, I don't use the desktop much. I run everything from the 10 foot interface, so for the most part I don't care. I have an underscan feature on my video processor that can scale the desktop for the time I have maintenance task and it is available from the VP remote. In content you degrade the picture anyway by not running one to one which will overscan on a rear projector.
post #1184 of 1609
Quote:
Originally Posted by TViewer2000 View Post

Well I found out one of the problems, I set the overscan to 0% and that caused the checkboard view to go away. So success on that front. Only problem with that is that the desktop is now extending past the outer edge of the TV. Is there a way to fix this or is this just what happens for the 1:1? I don't know why you are having issues with your computer. I have an AMD 245 2.9 GHz CPU and 5670 video card and the movie doesn't stutter at all.

Now on a side note, the 3D is working in the fact that the checkboard is gone, however the 3D image seperates depending on how far the image is supposted to come out at you on the screen. So things that are technically in middle depth looks fine, images in the foreground and background will start seperating into a douple image the farther you get from the main stage. Are you getting this effect? I don't get this when I play the movie through the PS3.

I don't have a lot of content but I have not notice separation. Odd I am having this issue with more CPU and GPU than you. I saw this on two different intel CPUs. When you are running the PS3 you are using the adapter, you would not use the adapter with the PC.. it is basically redundant running checkerboard. Do you the 3d adaper in line between the TV and the PC.
post #1185 of 1609
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Originally Posted by gtgray View Post

I don't have a lot of content but I have not notice separation. Odd I am having this issue with more CPU and GPU than you. I saw this on two different intel CPUs. When you are running the PS3 you are using the adapter, you would not use the adapter with the PC.. it is basically redundant running checkerboard. Do you the 3d adaper in line between the TV and the PC.

I can't remember but I'm pretty sure I tried both ways, but I'll have to look at it again. I'll have to let you know on Friday since I won't have time to mess with it today.
post #1186 of 1609
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Originally Posted by TViewer2000 View Post

I can't remember but I'm pretty sure I tried both ways, but I'll have to look at it again. I'll have to let you know on Friday since I won't have time to mess with it today.

I found that part of my problem was my video processor. I can routed frame packed 3d through the video processor with the chain being PS3-> DVDO Duo -> Mits 3d adaper -> TV that all works fine except the levels are flaky 3d is perfect but WTW is very much a problem.

I can't do PS3 -> Mits 3d adapter -> DVDO Duo -> TV because the adapter does not see the TV and does not want to cooperate.

What I found is that if the Cyberlink is sending checkerboard through my receiver or direct to the TV it works, with both the Radeon HD5450 and the GT 430. The Radeon HD5450 and the E4500 straight to the TV did not work without stuttering.

This would all be great except somehow by installing the Nvidia GT 430 which will not bitstream HD Audio in Cyberlink it farkled somthing and now I can only get two channel audio of the HD5450 regardless of the app. I tried everything short of a fresh operating operating system build to get multi-channel audio out of the Radeon after the Nvidia had been installed.

I can't even get multichannel audio in Media Center with live TV from the ATI HDMI device, I tried installing the Realtek everything I could think of .

I do get DTS not DTS HD out of of PDVD from the GT 430 or the Intel i3 igpu.. So this whole protected path audio thing must be very fragile about file dates etc.. I should have backed the PC up completely before I ever put the darned GT 430 in the PC.

I chose recovery points back as far as I could go and still I could not get back to the point where the Radeon would do any multichannel audio let alone bitstream HD in Cyperlink. It just would not work. I used clean up utilities.. I tried everything.. up most of the night in fact. It makes me crazy.

I guess I will have to do a clean install, I have had trouble with the key not working with PDVD when I have to reinstall it. So I am concerned I will have to buy yet another damn license from Cyberlink as they will only support you on the key if you bought it direct from them. I have been provided 3 different keys by the vendor and when I have to reinstall the didn't work, they only worked during the first install.
post #1187 of 1609
I did a full system rebuild. I used the ATI 5450, everything is almost back to where I was before I tried the GT 430. I don't get the option to bitsream HD Audio in PDDVD, not yet sure why that is. I have some ideas.This time I made a bit copy of the OS install with just the Nic driver so I would not have to go all the way back to zero in the future. Once I get the audio working fully I will make a second full drive bit copy. I used this messing situation to put the OS on an OCZ SSD, my brother game me the drive, so if there is an upside that is it.

The board is an intel H55TC maybe it needs the chipset and MEI drivers, they were installed the first time. I hope the order of install isn't critical to getting HD audio to bitsream out of the PDVD10.
post #1188 of 1609
Ok I got everything working perfectly. Too bad it wasn't with Cyberlink. I installed TMT3 and bam 3D working like a dream. Now this is the 3D that I was supposed to see. No issues with seperation at the foreground or background. It just worked. Thanks for all the help though.

GTGray: I am getting bitstreaming and Full 3D playback on my system. I'm not sure what is causing your problems. Do you have an anti-virus program loaded that is causing disk read slowdowns?
post #1189 of 1609
I switched from the ATI 5450 to the Nvida GT430 just recently. I can bitstream HD audio in PowerDVD standalone, but if I run it in cinema mode through Media Center 7, I get no audio at all, not even core.

any ideas?
post #1190 of 1609
I and a lot others have the exact same problem. Cyberlink has never offered an explanation for this issue. I have a ATI 5870. BTW, it does not matter with me if it is in Cinema mode or not.
post #1191 of 1609
Quote:
Originally Posted by zombie10k View Post

I switched from the ATI 5450 to the Nvida GT430 just recently. I can bitstream HD audio in PowerDVD standalone, but if I run it in cinema mode through Media Center 7, I get no audio at all, not even core.

any ideas?

I had the same issue, and the only way to get it to work was to not have WMC at full screen when selecting the movie. All this does though is launch Powerdvd outside of WMC and not within WMC.
post #1192 of 1609
Similiar PDVD 9 (3D oem) or 10 Mark II trial with new ATI 10.10 drivers
Mits 73736 DLP
Onkyo 608 (1.4a)
Converter box from mits
emitter
mits glasses
ATI 5870 10.10 Win7x64-> Onkyo 608 (1.4a) -> Box->TV.

PS3 works fine
Under ATI 10.9 drivers the 3D WORKED choosing "3D TV"
Now, I can "see" a checkerboard but the glasses are NOT syncing

50% of the time it just crashes since upgrading to 10.10.

The PS3 is flawless. Why is this so painful?
post #1193 of 1609
Quote:
Originally Posted by sjchmura View Post

Similiar PDVD 9 (3D oem) or 10 Mark II trial with new ATI 10.10 drivers
Mits 73736 DLP
Onkyo 608 (1.4a)
Converter box from mits
emitter
mits glasses
ATI 5870 10.10 Win7x64-> Onkyo 608 (1.4a) -> Box->TV.

PS3 works fine
Under ATI 10.9 drivers the 3D WORKED choosing "3D TV"
Now, I can "see" a checkerboard but the glasses are NOT syncing

50% of the time it just crashes since upgrading to 10.10.

The PS3 is flawless. Why is this so painful?

You don't need the converter box. Is the emitter plugged into the TV?
post #1194 of 1609
I am getting Bluray 3D to play flawlessly on my HTPC with Power DVD 10 Ultra Mark II.

My system:
QuadCore Q8300 6 Gig Ram
ATI HD 4650 (weak GPU)
Mitsubishi 73736
On Power DVD, I have to move the Swap Left and Right Eye View slider bar to Right and set the output to checkerboard.
On my TV, I have to move the overscan scale to 0.

My computer is connected to the TV directly using HDMI, and I am using the Mitsubishi IR emitter and Mitsubishi glasses from the Mitsu 3D starter kit.




Quote:
Originally Posted by gtgray View Post

You don't need the converter box. Is the emitter plugged into the TV?
post #1195 of 1609
Quote:
Originally Posted by ecommando View Post

I am getting Bluray 3D to play flawlessly on my HTPC with Power DVD 10 Ultra Mark II.

My system:
QuadCore Q8300 6 Gig Ram
ATI HD 4650 (weak GPU)
Mitsubishi 73736
On Power DVD, I have to move the filter slider bar to Right and set the output to checkerboard.
On my TV, I have to move the overscan scale to 0.

My computer is connected to the TV directly using HDMI, and I am using the Mitsubishi IR emitter and Mitsubishi glasses from the Mitsu 3D starter kit.

PowerDVD is about as flakey as things can get. I tried a GT430 and had problems with it... color was way off. Upon reinstall of the 5450 Windows would not do audio properly All through this process I could launch and run the only 3D Blu-Ray I own. Anyway did a fresh install of the OS to a new SSD and got everything reisintalled and working but now PowerDVD won't run that one single 3d Blu-ray, it loads and runs all the 2d Blu-rays I have thrown at it.

With the 3d disk it used to load, it either crashes trying to load it at about 33%, or will hang forever loading at 99%. I don't quite know what to think. The media is good it will load on my hardware blu-ray players, and this PC would load it before. I am going to take 3 deep breaths and then I don't know what.
post #1196 of 1609
Hey guys, I just had a question about PowerDVD 10 lossless audio playback. Everything is working fine with my HTPC. Currently using 5.1 analog outs to my non-HDMI reciever. Now, on to my situation.

Every time I play a Blu-Ray disc, movies with DTS-HDMA play fine and PowerDVD selects the DTS lossless track automatically. I was wondering if there is some type of setting for the player to automatically select Uncompressed PCM or Dolby TrueHD (whichever is available from current movie). It always outputs as Dolby Digital so I manually have to select the lossless tracks from the audio menu/remote control. If anyone has some type of registry hack or even some program setting, that will help a whole bunch.

Thanks in advance.
post #1197 of 1609
Could powerdvd play input from side-by-side 3D mkv file and output it to checkerboard?
post #1198 of 1609
Quote:
Originally Posted by ecommando View Post

Could powerdvd play input from side-by-side 3D mkv file and output it to checkerboard?

It can, but I think you would need a HDMI 1.4 Video card. That would be the new 6xxx series ATI cards, not sure what ones are available in the Nvidia brands.
post #1199 of 1609
Quote:
Originally Posted by sjchmura View Post

Similiar PDVD 9 (3D oem) or 10 Mark II trial with new ATI 10.10 drivers
Mits 73736 DLP
Onkyo 608 (1.4a)
Converter box from mits
emitter
mits glasses
ATI 5870 10.10 Win7x64-> Onkyo 608 (1.4a) -> Box->TV.

PS3 works fine
Under ATI 10.9 drivers the 3D WORKED choosing "3D TV"
Now, I can "see" a checkerboard but the glasses are NOT syncing

50% of the time it just crashes since upgrading to 10.10.

The PS3 is flawless. Why is this so painful?

Yeah, you don't need the convertor box inline, and probably better not to. So go ATI 5870 10.10 Win7x64-> Onkyo 608 (1.4a)->TV

Your emitter still needs to be plugged into the TV for syncing purposes, but that is link with the S-Video looking cable. Also make sure the TV has the 3D option turned on.

If you are seeing a "checkerboard" then the glasses ARE syncing but the computer is sending the information to the TV in a format that it doesn't understand. You have to go into the CCC control panel and set the overscan to 0%. Once you do this you'll get that 3D picture.
post #1200 of 1609
When I try to play the side by side video on PowerDvd, it just shows 2 side by side image. If I use the Mitsubishi adapter and set the 3D to left|right, i can watch that side by side in 3D.

But without the adapter, how would I set up PowerDvd to take the side by side image and merge it?



Quote:
Originally Posted by TViewer2000 View Post

It can, but I think you would need a HDMI 1.4 Video card. That would be the new 6xxx series ATI cards, not sure what ones are available in the Nvidia brands.
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