AVS › AVS Forum › Video Components › Home Theater Computers › * Official * Cyberlink PowerDVD 10 Ultra thread
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

* Official * Cyberlink PowerDVD 10 Ultra thread - Page 13

post #361 of 1608
4/1/10 at 7:17am
Tom @ Cyberlink,

Could you please shed some light on the question I asked above in post 335.
Reply
Reply

AVS Top Picks

post #362 of 1608
4/1/10 at 7:44am
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mcantu1 View Post

Tom,

are there any noticeable picture quality (or other) benefits to using an nvidia card with Pure Video 4 vs one with Pure Video 2?

The VP4 decoder in the GT 210, 220 and 240, or the GTX 470 and 480 is capable of dual HD decoding, and Blu-ray 3D MVC decoding. If you want home theater capability + gaming, go for the Fermi boards. If you want a quiet home theater system, go for the GT 2xx series.

Tom
Reply
Reply
post #363 of 1608
4/1/10 at 7:50am
Quote:
Originally Posted by CyberlinkUSA View Post

The VP4 decoder in the GT 210, 220 and 240, or the GTX 470 and 480 is capable of dual HD decoding, and Blu-ray 3D MVC decoding. If you want home theater capability + gaming, go for the Fermi boards. If you want a quiet home theater system, go for the GT 2xx series.

Tom

I know I've asked this before, but, now that Fermi's out I'm hoping we can get a definitive answer on it because I still do not have ANY idea on this....does Fermi support bitstreaming? IOW, is there PAP on Fermi cards? If not, does it at least do 7.1 LPCM?
Reply
Reply
post #364 of 1608
4/1/10 at 7:55am
A summary is here: AnandTech - NVIDIA’s GeForce GTX 480 and GTX 470: 6 Months Late, Was It Worth the Wait?.

Quote:


Speaking of audio, let’s quickly discuss the audio/video capabilities of the GTX 400 series. GF100 has the same audio/video capabilities as the 40nm GT 200 series launched late last year, so this means NVIDIA’s VP4 for video decoding (H.264/MPEG-2/VC-1/MPEG-4 ASP) and internal passthrough for audio. Unfortunately the latter means that the GTX 400 series (and other first-generation Fermi derivatives) won’t be able to match AMD’s Radeon 5000 series in audio capabilities – NVIDIA can do compressed lossy audio (DD/DTS) and 8 channel uncompressed LPCM, but not lossless compressed audio formats such as DTS-HD and Dolby TrueHD. This leaves the HTPC crown safely in AMD’s hands for now.

Blu-ray 3D without HD audio bitstreaming or full-resolution LPCM...
Reply
Reply
post #365 of 1608
4/1/10 at 7:55am
Seeing as how Nvidia has shown pretty much zero interest in highlighting HDMI audio on their cards (let alone supporting them with anything remotely close to good drivers), I wouldn't be surprised if Fermi didn't bitstream. In fact, if they didn't include LPCM in Fermi I wouldn't even be surprised.
Reply
Reply
post #366 of 1608
4/1/10 at 8:00am
Then nVidia has completely lost the HTPC market. What's the point of paying more for an nVidia card and then having to add a discreet card for bitstreaming? Idiots.
Reply
Reply
post #367 of 1608
4/1/10 at 8:01am
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SamuriHL View Post

I know I've asked this before, but, now that Fermi's out I'm hoping we can get a definitive answer on it because I still do not have ANY idea on this....does Fermi support bitstreaming? IOW, is there PAP on Fermi cards? If not, does it at least do 7.1 LPCM?

I don't have any new information for you today.
We understand the request.

Tom
Reply
Reply
post #368 of 1608
4/1/10 at 9:35am
Quote:
Originally Posted by CyberlinkUSA View Post

I don't have any new information for you today.
We understand the request.

Tom

Thanks, Tom. If what's been posted is accurate then basically the best we'd get is 7.1 LPCM which is at least better than nothing. But, I don't think the Fermi cards make great HTPC cards due to power consumption, heat, and as is now being said, a lack of bitstreaming. While they may have "better" 3d and are superior on games that use tesselation, the price premium and lack of HTPC features is disappointing IMO. Ah well.
Reply
Reply
post #369 of 1608
4/1/10 at 10:11am
Quote:
Originally Posted by SamuriHL View Post

Then nVidia has completely lost the HTPC market. What's the point of paying more for an nVidia card and then having to add a discreet card for bitstreaming? Idiots.

They have been moving away from targeting products at the consumer anyway. Fermi was designed as primarily a compute engine, and then also worked into a fine gaming GPU. But the fact that they have shifted away from a consumer platform is very noticeable - look at power consumption, lack of DP ports, and of course the lack of HD audio support as well.

At least Intel is stepping up on the integrated GPU side.
Reply
Reply
post #370 of 1608
4/1/10 at 10:41am
Thread Starter 
It might be a little early to reach such conclusions. You've only seen the first cards in their new generation. Did you see everything you wanted in the first examples of other new graphics platforms? There are always more good things in the pipeline... both hardware and software. Again... we hear you. All of us (Cyberlink... and all of our hardware partners).

Tom
Reply
Reply
post #371 of 1608
4/1/10 at 11:18am
Well, yea, actually, I did see everything I wanted in the new 5xxx series of cards. The 5870 is a phenomenal piece of equipment and balances gaming with HTPC functions perfectly. Anyway, I'm hearing what you're saying. I'm not in the market for a new card right now anyway. Although if nVidia had a great little HTPC based card I'd consider it for my bedroom machine if it compared functionality wise with the 5xxx cards. That's why I keep asking about nVidia cause I do eventually want to replace my 4850 which is not well suited for the machine it's currently in.
Reply
Reply
post #372 of 1608
4/1/10 at 12:13pm
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SamuriHL View Post

Well, yea, actually, I did see everything I wanted in the new 5xxx series of cards.

But did you hear everything that you wanted? You know what I'm talking about. It took several months to get you the full capability. These solutions involve several interdependent pieces... hardware + drivers + software. As much as the whole ecosystem works hard to have this all fully optimized at launch time, we never stop working to improve things... it's an ongoing process. I'm not hinting at anything imminent... but just letting you know that the work is continuing.

Tom
Reply
Reply
post #373 of 1608
4/1/10 at 12:18pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by CyberlinkUSA View Post

But did you hear everything that you wanted? You know what I'm talking about. It took several months to get you the full capability. These solutions involve several interdependent pieces... hardware + drivers + software. As much as the whole ecosystem works hard to have this all fully optimized at launch time, we never stop working to improve things... it's an ongoing process. I'm not hinting at anything imminent... but just letting you know that the work is continuing.

Tom

Right I understand what you're saying. I'll keep my eyes on it. For my main HTPC, the 5870 is beyond my wildest dreams for a card. nVidia should be worried if they aren't. I like them, but, I really don't get the direction they're headed. I hope they surprise me before I end up with a 5650 in my bedroom machine. I should be getting a new card for it sometime this summer, so, we'll see what things look like then.
Reply
Reply
post #374 of 1608
4/1/10 at 2:19pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by CyberlinkUSA View Post

But did you hear everything that you wanted?

I did. I didn't purchase one until after the bitstream patch was released.
Reply
Reply
post #375 of 1608
4/1/10 at 2:24pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by vladd View Post

I did. I didn't purchase one until after the bitstream patch was released.

Indeed. ATI seems much more focused on this market than Nvidia. It's a good thing that Intel is competing with them in this space, as Nvidia seems to be abdicating... You can't get better audio than bitstreaming!
Reply
Reply
post #376 of 1608
4/1/10 at 3:38pm
Actually in certain circumstances, decoding on the PC is actually better, like for instance when my crappy laptop graphics card refreshes the LCD at 59.650 Hz and I need ReClock for totally smooth video. Or when your sound card can apply certain effects that aren't available in most receivers (like Dolby Headphone).

What is better, is to have both options.
Reply
Reply
post #377 of 1608
4/2/10 at 3:50pm
Will Blu-ray 3D be supported on Intel Core i3 and i5 (Clarkdale) integrated graphics?

(If I have to use my Nvidia graphics card...) Will PDVD ever support bitstreaming HD audio codecs with the Asus Xonar HDAV 1.3?
Reply
Reply
post #378 of 1608
4/2/10 at 4:17pm
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by gorthocar View Post

Will Blu-ray 3D be supported on Intel Core i3 and i5 (Clarkdale) integrated graphics?

We demonstrated this working at CES (with hardware accelerated decoding). We support HD audio bitstreaming on this platform also.

Tom
Reply
Reply
post #379 of 1608
4/2/10 at 6:00pm
I got ATI HD5770 video card,MPC-HC will pass through untouched bitstreamed DTS HDmaster audio,but Power dvd 10 or 9 won't? I have Realtek onboard alc889,like the cyberlink page says,I have xfx hd5770 video card.So please tell me what drivers are needed I have tried quite a few. I have onkyo tx-sr706 will decode.Who has theirs working and what are your setup?Thanks

stinman

I got it finally after a few tries,sounds pretty good,but better picture than MPC-HC,I think anyway.
Reply
Reply
post #380 of 1608
4/2/10 at 8:51pm
I have just installed the trial version on my computer, but when i open it, all i'm getting is message asking me to register it. Any help?
Reply
Reply
post #381 of 1608
4/3/10 at 6:49am
Might have been asked and answered but since the ads are blocking the "search this thread" function I'll ask.

Does PDVD10 support playback from BluRay folders like TMT does? Or does it continue down the same path as PDVD9?
Reply
Reply
post #382 of 1608
4/3/10 at 7:04am
Quote:
Originally Posted by zicoz View Post

Might have been asked and answered but since the ads are blocking the "search this thread" function I'll ask.

Does PDVD10 support playback from BluRay folders like TMT does? Or does it continue down the same path as PDVD9?

No folder playback.
Reply
Reply
post #383 of 1608
4/3/10 at 7:24am
Bah, that sucks.
Reply
Reply
post #384 of 1608
4/4/10 at 8:33am
I want to build my HTPC on H55 Intel chipset with Corei3 cpu, is this give me passthrough DTS-HD MA, Dolby TrueHD by HDMI to amplifier in PDVD10 Ultra ? Is this working OK without any issues ?

Please answer.
Thanks.
Reply
Reply
post #385 of 1608
4/4/10 at 9:13am
Quote:
Originally Posted by PeterPL View Post

I want to build my HTPC on H55 Intel chipset with Corei3 cpu, is this give me passthrough DTS-HD MA, Dolby TrueHD by HDMI to amplifier in PDVD10 Ultra ? Is this working OK without any issues ?

Please answer.
Thanks.

I don't have any issues with the audio, HD audio works fine. But I do have a problem when using Fast forward or rewind. The video goes black when I try it with blu-ray. SD doesn't black out but didnt work very well, it wants to freeze up if I go past 2x.

I haven't been able to find out if its some kind of conflict on my system or a bug with Pwdvd 10. Tech support hasn't answered yet and I haven't seen anyone else say. I have a Intel Board. It only happens on version 10.

So, even though it seems to hang up faster than the other players or version 9, the main problem I have is the blacking out video when trying to FF or RR. The picture looks good on it, maybe some better than 9, but I haven't put much time into comparing them.
Reply
Reply
post #386 of 1608
4/4/10 at 10:18am
Thank you for answer, so you have H55 intel chipset too ? I want to be sure with this bitstream hd audio it's most important thing for me
I'm planing to buy a Gigabyte GA-H55M-UD2H motherboard and Core i3 530 cpu, I think will enough fast to handle all HD materials.

Is this black screen you have only when you fast forward with HDMI audio output only ? do you try with others video/audio settings in PDVD?

For now I'm using PDVD10 Ultra on Asus Striker Extreme nforce 680i motherboard, E8400, GTX280 and no problem with black screen when fast forwarding on Blu-Ray's, so the conflict is on intel chipset/graphic with PDVD10 looks like.

By the way I want ask is this HTPC what I want to build in future after install PDVD10 with added 3D support will be working with TV with 3D support or will be needed motherboard with HDMI 1.4 output ?
Reply
Reply
post #387 of 1608
4/4/10 at 10:48am
Does W7/Vista stay in Aero when playing BDs on Intel Core i3/i5 + H55 integrated graphics? And for completeness, how about ATI or Nvidia?
Reply
Reply
post #388 of 1608
4/4/10 at 12:04pm
CyberlinkUSA
And does PowerDVD 10 support inverse telecine transform for HD film content (1080i59.94 --> 1080p23.976)?
Reply
Reply
post #389 of 1608
4/4/10 at 12:13pm
hello,

how do i edit an external srt subtitle to make the font smaller in powerdvd? right now the external subtitle font is huge in power dvd

thank you
Reply
Reply
post #390 of 1608
4/4/10 at 12:50pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by PeterPL View Post

Thank you for answer, so you have H55 intel chipset too ? I want to be sure with this bitstream hd audio it's most important thing for me
I'm planing to buy a Gigabyte GA-H55M-UD2H motherboard and Core i3 530 cpu, I think will enough fast to handle all HD materials.

Is this black screen you have only when you fast forward with HDMI audio output only ? do you try with others video/audio settings in PDVD?

For now I'm using PDVD10 Ultra on Asus Striker Extreme nforce 680i motherboard, E8400, GTX280 and no problem with black screen when fast forwarding on Blu-Ray's, so the conflict is on intel chipset/graphic with PDVD10 looks like.

By the way I want ask is this HTPC what I want to build in future after install PDVD10 with added 3D support will be working with TV with 3D support or will be needed motherboard with HDMI 1.4 output ?

Intel DH55TC ,, Processor i3 530, is what I'm using. I only use HDMI 1080p/24 output for blu-ray. Nothing I've tried stops the video from going black when FF or RR. I did remove it and install again, but I didn't try reinstalling the OS.

I'm assuming its some kind of bug with this chipset. Bitstreaming audio works fine, I've had no problem with that.

I cannot answer your question about the 3D. I've not paid much attention to it, and not sure anyone can for sure. But ask Cyberlink and see what they say.
Reply
Reply
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Home Theater Computers

AVS Top Picks

AVS › AVS Forum › Video Components › Home Theater Computers › * Official * Cyberlink PowerDVD 10 Ultra thread