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Panasonic's 3D TV are out of stock in the US

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Panasonic say that they have seen great demand for their Viera 3D Plasma TVs, in fact they are out of stock now in the US. They didn't say how much TVs they actually sold...

Panasonic were offering 50" 3D TV, Blu-ray and one pair of glasses for $2,999 at best buy stores.

http://www.3d-display-info.com/panas...e-out-stock-us
post #2 of 23
You mean that actually sold both of them? I suspect that getting the 3D displays out to many of the Best Buy stores has taken away what very limited number of units have actually been shipped to the US so far. I had a dealer check last week on availability of a 2010 model 2D Panasonic plasma and the distributor replied they still only have the 2009 model in stock and are waiting to get the replacement 2010 model. Their 3D models are part of the 2010 line up and their supply limitations my be similar to other new models in the 2010 plasma line.
post #3 of 23
And what are these two people watching in 3D?
post #4 of 23
Here's an article about the sellout of 3D tvs that I found:

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...d=auzWxPLpD9SE
post #5 of 23
From what Best Buy rep told me the Panny VT20 wont go on sale till March 21th.But they do take pre orders.
Now that are some Best Buy not all of them.
post #6 of 23
3D TVs: Panasonic out of stock in Best Buy stores

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We have some disappointing news if you were planning on making the exciting trip to Best Buy to pick up a Panasonic 3D TV set, as Panasonic has just confirmed that they have already sold out.
As reported from Pocket-Lint, the 3D tvs have only been on sale for a week in the US, but high demand has prompted Panasonic to come out swiftly and tell everyone about the wipeout.

Just like we told you this week, Panasonic were offering customers a 50-inch plasma 3D TV, 3-D Blu-ray player and a set of glasses for $2,899.99.

Money was obviously not an issue in the end for you, as Panasonic gave no details on when more stock will be available.

3D TVs are still not available in the UK, while Samsung are next up to release in the US. Let us know your thoughts on this.

http://www.product-reviews.net/2010/...st-buy-stores/
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Amazing - they sold all their 3DTV's with no available 3D content.
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I'm not sure what "out of stock" means. I was told after an inventory computer check that for one of the major regions there were only 4 or 5 Panasonic TV's available in the warehouse for the entire region.
post #9 of 23
There were plenty for sale in the Houston Galleria area as of yesterday. Curious if they leaked this to somehow spur sales? Doesn't really add up.
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Originally Posted by Dr_Who View Post

There were plenty for sale in the Houston Galleria area as of yesterday. Curious if they leaked this to somehow spur sales? Doesn't really add up.

Could be that Panasonic themselves are out of stock and current stock is limited to whatever units retailers have.
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... or could be that this type of hype - "oh no! I can't get one! Boy, I'll wait and pounce on the 1st one I can get!!!" - is what they like.
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And what are these two people watching in 3D?

You're missing the point. If you were to buy a new TV (because you wanted a new one anyway, because the old one broke etc.), would you buy a 2D or a 3D set?
Just because there's no content now doesn't mean you can't plan ahead for what's to come.
post #13 of 23
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Could be that Panasonic themselves are out of stock and current stock is limited to whatever units retailers have.

I believe that's the case. I saw the Panasonic VT20 50" demo today and the sales guy told me that Best Buy had purchased a lot of them and that they were available in the warehouse.

I was pleased to see virtually no ghosting/crosstalk on the display today. That gives me hope that shutter glasses, if implemented properly, are not responsible by themselves for crosstalk. That's a complete deal breaker for me with the Samsung LCDs. I've seen that demo several times now, and it's impossible for me not to see ghosting with that set.

I'm going to try to get Best Buy to let me see clips from Monsters vs Aliens on the Panasonic set tomorrow. Although I was very pleased with the 3D effect on the Panasonic, I haven't had enough time, or variety of material, to make up my mind how I feel about it overall. All the clips on the Panasonic have great depth, but I'm not quite sure about the motion handling. That might be a problem. BTW, the Best Buy guy told me that the Panasonic also locks the viewer out of brightness and contrast controls while in 3D mode. The Samsung does the same thing.

Despite that, the Panasonic, so far, looks to me like a better choice than the Samsung, simply because it has no discernible crosstalk. How it handles motion with some films might be another deal breaker. Time will tell.
post #14 of 23
Joseph, but isn't the Panny a Plasma? The plazma's refresh rate will always be faster than current LCDs with the 240Hz refresh, which is why the motion is smoother on the Panny. It also makes sense that the manufacturers don't let us screw with the contrast and all while in 3D, the average consumer will just screw it up. Hell, most people I know need for me to calibrate their tV's as is now. 3D will truly twist some noodles!

Like others, I personally have some reservations on going with plasma. Not the burn in issue, but the energy consumption and Panny's recent admission that their plasmas loose brightness over time.

If I am going to plunk down about $2K at the end of the year for a shinny new 3D HDTV, I need that baby to last me at least for the next 4 or 5 years like my trusty DLP has.

Over the next several months, I will be monitoring this forum and others on sound evaluation info on which 3D to buy. I trust you guys opinions much more than the media, so I need for you to be objective and thorough.

I don't even know how much the Panny costs, but I know it's cheaper than the Samsung because its a plasma. I would like a 55 or 60`, so tell me how big that Panny is that you'll see at BB tomorrow and the cost as well has how good it looks.
post #15 of 23
Apparently, the Panasonic is able to eliminate crosstalk by having a blanking period between frames when both shutter lenses are closed, and the plasma is displaying nothing at all. I don't care technically how the Panasonic engineers pulled it off. I just care that there's no apparent crosstalk between the left and right eye views.

I'm not sure the motion is smoother on the Panasonic plasma. That's my main concern. I didn't notice problems with the Samsung LCD's motion. The Panasonic, though, looked a bit unusual. I'm just not sure what it was I was seeing. That's why I'm so anxious to go back and check it out again.

The Panasonic VT20 is a 50" plasma panel ($2,500), but they will also have a 58" set. Samsung will have several plasma displays, as well, including a 50" set that will cost only $1,800. I can't wait to check out the Samsung plasmas for all the issues I'm discovering are so important to me.

As for your concerns about plasma panels, especially the recent flap about Panasonic displays that automatically raise black level, we'll just have to wait for the reports to start rolling in. AVS is a great source for that sort of thing. People here are not shy about expressing their opinions.

I'm thinking I'll probably end up with a plasma display for a bedroom until a good 3D front projector comes along. My goal for 3D is the same as it was for 2D - a real movie theater experience at home, but better. The only way for me to do that, long term, is with a projector. Until then, and while there aren't many 3D movie titles to choose from, I can live with a smaller plasma display in a bedroom (58" or more, if possible). Even the 110" screen in my main home theater room is smaller than I'd like. I just can't go any larger. I'd be willing to wager money that within a couple of years, I'll have a 3D projector in my home that will surpass the Avatar experience I had in the regular theater.
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Apparently, the Panasonic is able to eliminate crosstalk by having a blanking period between frames when both shutter lenses are closed, and the plasma is displaying nothing at all. I don't care technically how the Panasonic engineers pulled it off. I just care that there's no apparent crosstalk between the left and right eye views.

I'm not sure the motion is smoother on the Panasonic plasma. That's my main concern. I didn't notice problems with the Samsung LCD's motion. The Panasonic, though, looked a bit unusual. I'm just not sure what it was I was seeing. That's why I'm so anxious to go back and check it out again.

The Panasonic VT20 is a 50" plasma panel ($2,500), but they will also have a 58" set. Samsung will have several plasma displays, as well, including a 50" set that will cost only $1,800. I can't wait to check out the Samsung plasmas for all the issues I'm discovering are so important to me.

As for your concerns about plasma panels, especially the recent flap about Panasonic displays that automatically raise black level, we'll just have to wait for the reports to start rolling in. AVS is a great source for that sort of thing. People here are not shy about expressing their opinions.

I'm thinking I'll probably end up with a plasma display for a bedroom until a good 3D front projector comes along. My goal for 3D is the same as it was for 2D - a real movie theater experience at home, but better. The only way for me to do that, long term, is with a projector. Until then, and while there aren't many 3D movie titles to choose from, I can live with a smaller plasma display in a bedroom (58" or more, if possible). Even the 110" screen in my main home theater room is smaller than I'd like. I just can't go any larger. I'd be willing to wager money that within a couple of years, I'll have a 3D projector in my home that will surpass the Avatar experience I had in the regular theater.

Joseph - in what 3D presentation did you see Avatar?
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Joseph - in what 3D presentation did you see Avatar?

RealD. No IMAX in my area was showing it. Every time I saw it, it was 2.35:1.
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RealD. No IMAX in my area was showing it. Every time I saw it, it was 2.35:1.

Then . . .

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I'll have a 3D projector in my home that will surpass the Avatar experience I had in the regular theater.

Is definitely doable. Just have to use Linear polarization instead of the Circular polarization that RealD uses.

Now - if they would just jump the color bit depth from 8bit to 10bit and change the sampling rate from 4:2:0 to 4:2:2 - you would really be in business.
post #19 of 23
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Originally Posted by Lee Stewart View Post

Then . . .



Is definitely doable. Just have to use Linear polarization instead of the Circular polarization that RealD uses.

Now - if they would just jump the color bit depth from 8bit to 10bit and change the sampling rate from 4:2:0 to 4:2:2 - you would really be in business.

Even with Blu-ray's limitations, I feel that the experience of going to virtually any commercial theater in my area is more of a compromise than what I have at home. Color, contrast, screen quality, sound quality, apparent resolution - on balance, my home theater almost invariably seems better. Even the IMAX, with dirt and debris floating through the entire film, takes me out of the experience more than watching at home. And that says nothing of the convenience and comfort of a home theater compared to a commercial one. I expect 3D to be the same. That may be optimistic for a new technology that will no doubt take some time to work out the kinks, but I still believe two years will be enough time for that to happen.

That's actually quite ironic. About a year ago, I was telling one of my ex-students (who works as a 3D animator) that I doubted we'd see 3D at home for quite some time. I couldn't have been more wrong, or be any happier to have been wrong.
post #20 of 23
Does anyone know the release schedule for the new 3D sets?

I went to Best Buy over the past couple of weeks and the Panasonic blows away the Samsung. The Samsung felt really uncomfortable to watch in 3D. It was like there was a blinking in the glasses. I understand that this is the shutter speed of the glasses in conjuction with the LCD. Therefore, I believe that this is due to the fact that the Panasonic is plasma.

Samsung is supposed to come out with a plasma version and Panasonic will be coming out with larger screens.

My problem is that I just finished my basement with a media room and am dying to buy a 3D TV. However, the 50 Panasonic is just too small. I am hoping for a 60+ inch plasma.

Therefore, does anyone know the release schedule for these 3D plasmas?

Thanks,
EGGHEAD8921
post #21 of 23
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Originally Posted by EGGHEAD8921 View Post

Does anyone know the release schedule for the new 3D sets?

I went to Best Buy over the past couple of weeks and the Panasonic blows away the Samsung. The Samsung felt really uncomfortable to watch in 3D. It was like there was a blinking in the glasses. I understand that this is the shutter speed of the glasses in conjuction with the LCD. Therefore, I believe that this is due to the fact that the Panasonic is plasma.

Samsung is supposed to come out with a plasma version and Panasonic will be coming out with larger screens.

My problem is that I just finished my basement with a media room and am dying to buy a 3D TV. However, the 50 Panasonic is just too small. I am hoping for a 60+ inch plasma.

Therefore, does anyone know the release schedule for these 3D plasmas?

Thanks,
EGGHEAD8921

The Samsung 3D plasmas (some of them) ship April 2nd. Unknown on the 58" or 65" Panasonic.
post #22 of 23
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Originally Posted by Lee Stewart View Post

The Samsung 3D plasmas (some of them) ship April 2nd. Unknown on the 58" or 65" Panasonic.

Just returned from my local BB magnolia. Tried out the Panny 50" 3D demo, and was blown away. They didn't have the Samsung on demo here. But I too am looking for a 60"+ for a media room, so will have to wait.

Even without 3D content now, it just doesn't make sense to plunk down the cash for something limited to 2D anymore, assuming the 2D quality of this set will not suffer compared to the "dedicated" 2D sets. Any thoughts on this being a possibility?
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Just returned from my local BB magnolia. Tried out the Panny 50" 3D demo, and was blown away. They didn't have the Samsung on demo here. But I too am looking for a 60"+ for a media room, so will have to wait.

Even without 3D content now, it just doesn't make sense to plunk down the cash for something limited to 2D anymore, assuming the 2D quality of this set will not suffer compared to the "dedicated" 2D sets. Any thoughts on this being a possibility?

There's no way to answer that for sure until more tests are conducted. I think it's likely the 3D sets are going to be as good as or better than the 2D sets, but that's just conjecture. One thing that's almost certainly true is that these sets cost more than models that will be released a year from now. It's also likely that these sets will be buggier than sets that will come out later. If you can wait, it's a good idea. That said, if I needed a set right now, I'd get 3D, no question.
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