Xbox 360 SLIM... - Page 3

Netflix HD stream is about 5mbps (really should be called SD+, no where near as decent as HD broadcasting) as compared to decently compressed HD video that should be 15mbps+. For example, recorded HD TV shows are typically in 15mbps MPEG2. Ripped BD files should be 20 to 30mbps.

Try some of that and come back tell me wi-fi works fine.

If you use the 360 as an extender for example, then yes, you're streaming all of that over the network. And I'd say that on a site like this, you'd be much more likely to see people who are doing that.

So... are you streaming uncompressed Blu-ray's? Yes or no.


And back to the original response. Saying that "Wi-fi is ok for surfing web sites. It sucks at rest of the tasks." is pure hyperbole.

You have an awful lot of functionality with wi-fi, including being able to stream video from Netflix, XBox Marketplace, Vudu, etc.


If you want to say "wired will be faster than wi-fi" then I totally agree. But there is no need to overstate things when wi-fi actually is suitable for the vast majority of user applications.

No, I'm not, and that's sort of my point. Wifi can't even handle that. It won't handle a 720p MPEG2 recording from cable, nor can it handle an h264 720p rip of a Blu-ray, let alone the full bitrate disc. In fact, when I did try out the 360 as an extender over Wifi, it had signal loss issues (only one room / 15 feet over) on a 480p TV recording.

What router and adapter were you using?

That does not reflect the experience I have had with a properly setup 802.11n network.

Sorry, as I personally tested both wi-fi and wireless, there is no comparison. Faster speed isn't necessary for most stream tasks Xbox can do. It's the reliability of the connection that matters. Not to mention less lag for gaming. Again, if your usage is only 1 to 5 mbps of bandwidth, wi-fi maybe fine. But anything more than that, look for alternatives. Anyone use Xbox as Media Center extenders (I use both of mine for MCE extenders) will learn this the first time they hook it up.

What router and adapter?

Streaming 1080p Bluray to my Xbox 360 extender no signal loss perfect frame rate.

need Intel 5300 3x3 antenna
Xbox 360 N WiFi adapter which was $40 price mistake at sears

"Netflix HD stream is about 5mbps (really should be called SD+, no where near as decent as HD broadcasting) ... recorded HD TV shows are typically in 15mbps MPEG2."

You are comparing bitrates without regard to codec. That is a recipe for failure.

Given that VC1 is a good three to four times more efficient than MPEG2, the potential is easily there to match quality levels between a 5mbps VC1 stream and a 15mbps MPEG2 stream, given an original source is of higher quality than either encode. Yes there are poor looking HD Netflix encodes, just as there are terrible looking HD channels on your television receiver. There are also excellent looking Netflix encodes, ones where it's obvious that they aren't just gross transcodes from the 15mbps broadcast MPEG2.

Disregarding HD streaming Netflix as "SD+" is nothing but ignorant. At worst it is the quality equal of the wide range of quality levels that you will find across normal broadcast HD channels. Some things look great, and some things look like crap.

TrendNet 11n router and wireless N bridge about 30 feet apart.

Pure speculation. Based on my personal encoding experience, it's 2 times more efficient at best.


Having watched tons of Netflix streaminhg, I have yet to encounter any HD version that looks sharp.

While we're at it, I'd like a link to a $100 PS3.

That was the point of the console. Mission accomplished.

The PS3 also extended it's market share into new segaments. Like me .... that didn't sound right......

I never would have bought a PS3 were it not for it's blu-ray.

I was responding to:


WTF are you talking about?

Visions of Howard Stringer on a carrier deck...

My, wasn't that polite.

I don't get it? What the hell would happen to the backwards compatibility regarding the hard drives?

Maybe it plugs in on the other side?

thats a old 360 HDDVD drive.

That looks like its just the HD DVD player.

I agree thats the old HDDVD player.

They should copy alot of design cues from the PS3 Slim. Much smaller design over.. try and decrease the size & weight of the unit by 33%. Black, squarish, discrete polymer shell with no huge 360 logos so it blends in with other HT equipment on the shelf. Slot loading drive. 2 USB ports on the front. 2 more USB ports on back/AV-DONGLECONNECTOR/HDMI/ETHERNET/OPTICAL/POWER out on back. Power converter inside the unit so theres no power brick. Make sure its quiet as hell. No huge shiny green light on the front because it glows too much in a dark living room.

Basically.. make it is clean looking as possible. If they can do all that for $299.. include Wifi-N and a 250GB harddrive I'll buy one immediately for the bedroom. If not I'll keep the Elite I had forever and continue to use that as my sole 360 in the house.

Pricing
$299 for the new slim w/ wifi & 250gig hdd
$199 for the new slim w/ wifi & no hdd

$199 for the old elite w/120gig hdd
$149 for the old arcade w/o hdd

No more memory cards. If you have a memory card, You can transfer your game saves onto a USB thumbstick using an older 360.

That was confirmed to be a hoax about a month or so ago and is in fact the hd dvd player.

What are you thinking?! It's a hoax for crying outloud. Pay attention, I say, pay attention.

give the guy a break, he's not always "all there" if you know what i mean...

That is a bad hoax!
Who would post such rubbish here?
That guy should be banned!

But then how would MS rape its users for add-ons and get those good quarterly numbers? Think of all the poor MS execs!

Next you will ask for free online play, madness!

I think the PS3 slim is ugly. And it's not even slim. the PS2 slim. now that was slim.

There's no reason to put the power inside the 360. It's going behind the entertainment center anyway. and If it breaks, you just have to exchange the brick. instead of the whole console.

I'm sure they can come up with a fine design without copying the ugly PS3 slim. the only thing I wonder is how you can redesign it to look good when you need to maintain compatibility with the external hard drives. The 360 HD takes up the full width of the side of the console. so if the hard drive has to dock on the top of the console, well, that's kind of ugly. but i can't imagine any other way.

simple- you don't. You a new HDD standard meaning people can't buy a 20gb/arcade slim and put there current 120/250gb on it. Thus making more money.

doubt that. no console manufacturer has ever released new hardware that invalidated old hardware.

but i guess they could now that Sony has set the precedence. The PS3 is the first and only console that took away features as it aged.