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post #31 of 367
Seems confirmed that Rooney Mara will play Lisbeth in the remake.
post #32 of 367
I just bought the first in the series on ebay - 644 pages
post #33 of 367
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Originally Posted by General Kenobi View Post

I'm sorry but I just don't see Hollywood coming close to what was achieved with the original.

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I don't either, but being such a fan of the novels, and at least the first of the Swedish films, I'll certainly give the American re-make a viewing.

It is a very high bar to clear...that is certain.
I'll probably rent the disk someday and see how they did.
post #34 of 367
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I just bought the first in the series on ebay - 644 pages

Once you start reading it though it won't seen that long at all. In fact, when you've finished the 3rd book you'll be craving more.

(I guarantee you'll be ordering the 2nd and 3rd novels before you even finish the first one. )
post #35 of 367
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Once you start reading it though it won't seen that long at all. In fact, when you've finished the 3rd book you'll be craving more.

(I guarantee you'll be ordering the 2nd and 3rd novels before you even finish the first one. )

I certainly did. I chomped through all three in a flash!
post #36 of 367
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I certainly did. I chomped through all three in a flash!

Since I had started to read the first one quite some time ago, I had to wait until they had been released in the UK before I could even get my hands on the 2nd and 3rd ones. They were released over there 6-9 mos before the US.
post #37 of 367
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1568346/

Roonery Mara is the new Tattoo girl, for better or worse. Remake comes out late this year. David Fincher directs, with Daniel Craig and Robin Wright.
post #38 of 367
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Originally Posted by dragonbud0 View Post

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1568346/

Roonery Mara is the new Tattoo girl, for better or worse. Remake comes out late this year. David Fincher directs, with Daniel Craig and Robin Wright.

I still think Ellen Page would be a better choice... and it's December 2011 not 2010..
post #39 of 367
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Originally Posted by bobby94928 View Post

I still think Ellen Page would be a better choice... and it's December 2011 not 2010..

Word is, they were looking for a lesser known actress to play the part.

In my view, no one is Lisbeth but Noomi Rapace! I like Craig's casting, even though I feel the film is unnecessary. The original is superb.

Art
post #40 of 367
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Originally Posted by adpayne View Post

Word is, they were looking for a lesser known actress to play the part.

In my view, no one is Lisbeth but Noomi Rapace! I like Craig's casting, even though I feel the film is unnecessary. The original is superb.

Art

I agree the original is superb. What I found most distracting was that Noomi looked too old for the part. One of the most important themes in the books is that Lisbeth is tiny and looks 14 years old, although she is 25. Nobody can believe her actions and reactions to what goes on around her because this tiny little girl couldn't possibly have those talents. That's why I thought Ellen Page fits the part well. Just my take.....
post #41 of 367
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I was not very impressed with this one. If you like overbearing and relentless music to tell you that SOMETHING INTENSE AND SUSPENSEFUL IS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW for 90% of the movie even though nothing is really happening, then this is your movie.

Just because this is Swedish, that is no reason it should garner any comparisons to Let The Right One In.



Chris, you have every right to your opinion. You shouldn't have posted most of your rant without spoiler tags though. I would have been very pissed to read that, if I hadn't already seen the film.

I enjoyed it very much. The music set the mood, which was quite bleak. It was sobering subject matter, set in the middle of winter. What kind of music would you have prefered?

Art
post #42 of 367
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Originally Posted by bobby94928 View Post

I agree the original is superb. What I found most distracting was that Noomi looked too old for the part. One of the most important themes in the books is that Lisbeth is tiny and looks 14 years old, although she is 25. Nobody can believe her actions and reactions to what goes on around her because this tiny little girl couldn't possibly have those talents. That's why I thought Ellen Page fits the part well. Just my take.....

I haven't read the books, so Noomi's age wasn't an issue for me. As I commented in the other thread on AVS, I don't feel casting a girl who looks 14 would fly. Just presenting someone who looks underage in sexual situations can be prosecuted now. And the things that happen to Lisbeth go way beyond "sexual situations". Noomi was tiny. 5'2" and barely 100 lbs. You won't find many actresses smaller than that.

It will be interesting to see what Fincher can do with the material.

Art
post #43 of 367
Too bad Isabelle Fuhrman (Orphan) is still too young then.
post #44 of 367
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Originally Posted by Morpheo View Post

Too bad Isabelle Fuhrman (Orphan) is still too young then.


Isabelle is 23 years old. She could fit as well. The fact that she is 4'9" tall fits very, very well....
post #45 of 367
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Originally Posted by adpayne View Post

... Noomi was tiny. 5'2" and barely 100 lbs. You won't find many actresses smaller than that.

...
Art

Snooki!
post #46 of 367
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Originally Posted by bobby94928 View Post

Isabelle is 23 years old. She could fit as well. The fact that she is 4'9" tall fits very, very well....

*cough* 2010 - 1997 = .........23?
post #47 of 367
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Originally Posted by adpayne View Post

Word is, they were looking for a lesser known actress to play the part.

In my view, no one is Lisbeth but Noomi Rapace! I like Craig's casting, even though I feel the film is unnecessary. The original is superb.

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Originally Posted by bobby94928 View Post

I agree the original is superb. What I found most distracting was that Noomi looked too old for the part. One of the most important themes in the books is that Lisbeth is tiny and looks 14 years old, although she is 25. Nobody can believe her actions and reactions to what goes on around her because this tiny little girl couldn't possibly have those talents. That's why I thought Ellen Page fits the part well. Just my take.....

It is hard to imagine anyone BUT Rapace in the part.
She was absolutely superb, with little room for debate.

However, I think Page could have pulled it off.
Tiny, dark hair, young looking, smart....
Think of her performance in Hard Candy....
A slight variation and Lisbeth could work for her.
Unfortunately, at this point, it's just academic.
post #48 of 367
Just received an email this shipped from my queue today. Should receive it in the next day or two. With all the buzz surrounding this movie, I'm looking forward to seeing it.
post #49 of 367
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Originally Posted by Morpheo View Post

*cough* 2010 - 1997 = .........23?

Ach! What's a decade between friends. Seriously, math wasn't my greatest attribute, but simple arithmetic was, my bad.....
post #50 of 367
I know I'm alone on this, but I didn't think NR completely captured Lisbeth. Its an amazing performance but there is room for improvement. On a scale of ten I'd give her an eight, which is damn good and probably better than we'll get from the remake. I'd rate the film at the same level-8 out or ten. So its possible both Mara's portrayal and the remake itself could be better than the original. I'll admit its unlikely to turn out that way, but I'm hoping.
post #51 of 367
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I know I'm alone on this, but I didn't think NR completely captured Lisbeth. Its an amazing performance but there is room for improvement. On a scale of ten I'd give her an eight, which is damn good and probably better than we'll get from the remake. I'd rate the film at the same level-8 out or ten. So its possible both Mara's portrayal and the remake itself could be better than the original. I'll admit its unlikely to turn out that way, but I'm hoping.

I haven't read the book and can only comment on the film.
I am afraid to read the books before seeing the last 2 films....
post #52 of 367
I loved the movie and will be watching it again soon. I thought that Noomi Rapace was perfect in the title role, although I have not yet read the books. As others have already said, I don't know why they are doing a remake of the movie, although Daniel Craig should be excellent as the reporter. Also, David Fincher has directed a couple of movies that I regard as classics, Fight Club and The Curious Case of Benjamin Britton, so maybe the remake will be good. I hope so.
post #53 of 367
I think most Americans have an aversion to watching subtitled movies – I know I did. However, I’ve gotten into watching more as the years have gone by. I do think it’s a distraction because you have to read and absorb the scene at the same time. Obviously, the more you watch subtitled movies the easier it is to get beyond that. Also, sometimes you have to read fairly quickly, and not everyone reads at the same speed, so that’s a turn-off for many. And lets face it; you have to constantly watch the screen or you will miss something. When you can understand the language you can stray from the screen for any number of reasons and at least hear what is being said so you don’t miss the gist of the scene. Whether the remake will be better received worldwide than the original remains to be seen. But I do believe many Americans will see TGWTDT for the first time. And if the books are as good as I've heard, and based on the directors previous work, then it should be a success, at least in America.

Looking at IMDb voters for the original, 85% are foreign viewers, and they’re predominately male.

The bottom line: Most Americans just like to sit and watch; not read.
post #54 of 367
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As others have already said, I don't know why they are doing a remake of the movie, although Daniel Craig should be excellent as the reporter.

The movies, and books, are enormously popular. Most Americans won't watch subtitled films (their loss), so there is money to be made in making an English language version. I believe they are re-doing 'Let The Right One In' as well.

As most in this thread know, there are many wonderful foreign films made each year. Refusing to watch subtitled films removes many worthwile choices. The only way I could get a friend to watch TGWTDT was to view the dubbed version. I much prefered the subtitled Swedish track, which I had already seen.

I too hope Fincher can pull this off, since it is going to made whether we like it or not.

Art
post #55 of 367
I agree that watching the subtitled version of a foreign film takes more work than does an English language movie. It has always been worth it to me, though, because I would otherwise have missed innumerable worthy foreign films. One of the great movie anthology series I have seen was one on PBS that featured Japanese movies. The show's host was Edwin O. Reischauer, former U.S. Ambassador to Japan. Reischauer grew up in Japan and had a Japanese wife. He understood the culture, to say the least. That series ran in the '60s but I still remember it vividly. I guess the moral of that tale is, don't sell subtitles short. That's advice I probably don't need to give to many of the regular posters here, though.
post #56 of 367
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I loved the movie and will be watching it again soon. I thought that Noomi Rapace was perfect in the title role, although I have not yet read the books. As others have already said, I don't know why they are doing a remake of the movie, although Daniel Craig should be excellent as the reporter. Also, David Fincher has directed a couple of movies that I regard as classics, Fight Club and The Curious Case of Benjamin Britton, so maybe the remake will be good. I hope so.

I'd add Seven to your list of classics he's made. Really, is there a better hollywood director right now than Fincher, other than maybe Nolan? Granted he's had a few missteps but its his involvement that makes me intrigued with the remake. And I did love the original film as well as NR's performance, if I didn't make that clear. Full disclosure: I think Lisbeth Salander is one of the most fully developed and vibrant characters I've ever encountered in the mystery/thriller genre, and it might be impossible for any actress to equal the mental image I have of her from the books. My only complaint with the swedish filn is that they made her a little too likeable for my taste. But that could just be me, and I do realize its almost impossible for any film to fully equal the mental movie that a great read can inspire.
post #57 of 367
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I'd add Seven to your list of classics he's made. Really, is there a better hollywood director right now than Fincher, other than maybe Nolan? Granted he's had a few missteps but its his involvement that makes me intrigued with the remake. And I did love the original film as well as NR's performance, if I didn't make that clear. Full disclosure: I think Lisbeth Salander is one of the most fully developed and vibrant characters I've ever encountered in the mystery/thriller genre, and it might be impossible for any actress to equal the mental image I have of her from the books. My only complaint with the swedish filn is that they made her a little too likeable for my taste. But that could just be me, and I do realize its almost impossible for any film to fully equal the mental movie that a great read can inspire.

I've only seen Se7en once but want to watch it again. Although I remember liking it in general terms, I can't recall enough about its details to know how well I did like it. I am encouraged by its IMDb average of 8.6 out of 10 stars, based on 275,000 votes. I can't remember any movie ranked so high by so many IMDb voters that I didn't like a lot, too. Also, Brad Pitt has become one of my favorite actors and Morgan Freeman always has been.
post #58 of 367
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I think most Americans have an aversion to watching subtitled movies – I know I did. ...

The bottom line: Most Americans just like to sit and watch; not read.

Yeah, my first choice, in a case like this, where most of Swedish actors also speak english, would be to have the film dubbed in english by the original actors. I'm actually midly surprised that this almost never happens since it should be fairly small added expense with a potentially huge upside. (How much more expensive could it be than having to pay someone to translate everything to english, generate subtitles for all the dialog and produce all new prints with the subtitles added in?)


Anyway, in general, I'd rather read subtitles than listen to the almost universally horrible dubbing by other actors. But it is a hassle to try to read subtitles when there's a lot of visual interest too. For example, I found that the suntitled version of the Brotherhood of the Wolf, was a royal pain in the butt. I ended up watching it twice, the first time through I just read the subtitles and the second time through I watched the visuals and let my memory fill in the dialog. Luckily most foreign films are just talking heads, so it's usually not an issue.
post #59 of 367
Coming to BD in October - The Girl Who Played with Fire.
post #60 of 367
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Originally Posted by Aliens View Post

I think most Americans have an aversion to watching subtitled movies - I know I did. However, I've gotten into watching more as the years have gone by. I do think it's a distraction because you have to read and absorb the scene at the same time. Obviously, the more you watch subtitled movies the easier it is to get beyond that.

Yes when 90% of everything you watch on your TV is subtitled you do pick up some skills in subtitle reading. As a bonus effect you also pick up some language skills. Also many times I have watch a movie halfway in before I noticed that I hadnt activated the subtitles. Its like driving a car, you just do it after a while.

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Also, sometimes you have to read fairly quickly, and not everyone reads at the same speed, so that's a turn-off for many. And lets face it; you have to constantly watch the screen or you will miss something.

Its just practise, and frankly I even often watch swedish movies with subtitles because it sometimes its more distracting when you cant here what the actors are saying

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When you can understand the language you can stray from the screen for any number of reasons and at least hear what is being said so you don't miss the gist of the scene.

Yes I have alot easier to watch an english movie with subtitles then a french movie with subtitles.
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