The "Official" Onkyo TX-SR608 Thread (No Price Talk) - Page 42

The powered second zone means that I can run speaker wires to another area and

have tv in the living room/ theater

and music in the other zone??

Yes??

No??

I just got a 608 and new speakers. I'm using the Definitive Tech Pro Cinema 60.6. So far I love the setup, just hooked everything up today so I'm still learning but for my small living room, these speakers are great. I have to pick up new wall mounts tomorrow so I was not able to run the Audssey setup yet. I don't know what ohms is but the speakers are rated for 4-8 ohms and the 608 says 6-16. Will these be ok?

I would be very interested in your thoughts on your setup. I'm considering pretty much the same gear.

Im in the beginning of my journey on getting this system all set up, that includes the CU8000 and the 608. I ran the 608 set up audiossy and really love the sound. I havent noticed any loss in picture running everything thru the 608 , just the sound not matching up with the lips on the tv. Of course I havent run the tv directly yet either. I have read that there is a fix for the studdering but not sure if that is the problem im having. Im hoping for some help from the knowledgable people on here.

Where can I find the VCR/Return? I can't seem to find it in the manual or menu.

You physically go up to the receiver, press and hold the VCR/DVR input and while holding that press the return button(located on the far right) twice.

Well thats good news there is a work around for those who care for such things.

I didn't notice any problems because I'm coming form a receiver that didn't even have hdmi. For me the processing the 608 does makes cable look better than with no processing. I am also seeing 24bit in, 30bit out with my cable. Maybe 30bit is the lowest the 608 can output while the osd is enabled? My blurays are 36bit in 36bit out.


In an unrealated note, anyone know the difference between Straight Decode and Direct? The manual has little or no informaiton about Straight Decode, but it sounds like it would be the same thing as Direct. Just straight output of the decoder with no processing?

Quite possible...the colorspace upconversion was not the problem for me as much as stuttering. it seems i am onw of the only ones to see that.

Any other 608 owners using a kuro in advanced?

Any answer on my post above about the second zone??

yes. read the manual.

Trying to do my research befor I buy. Thanks Winston for understanding, I know this site gets flooded by newbs like me.

Just making sure this will do what I want , no remorse.

Any information on whether replacing/upgrading the fan would void the warranty? Let me know how this goes and if you can, post some pics!

As stated above, but with pics!!!


Darn fan is starting to make noises. No problems with fan until last week (about 1 month of use). You would think onkyo would use a better fan than this. Hard to explain fan noise. Not huge, but is a noticable noise when sound is not playing. Don't get me wrong, noise is not annoying, but it shouldn't make any noise at all IMO. Might just ride this out for a couple more weeks and see if the fan works out the noise as it kinda comes and goes. Seriously thinking about replacing / upgrading the fan to a high end computer 120mm case fan. Maybe purchase a fan off newegg.com. I've already taken the 608 apart and it looks rather easy.


Hate to say it people, but I think the 120mm fan that came with the 608 is total crap.


the fan that is in the 608 = nidec fan, D12T-12PL, 0208G1, 12V DC, .08A

120MM computer case fan


nidec home: http://www.nidec.com/fans.html

other info:

http://search.freefind.com/find.html...&n=0&x=23&y=12

http://www.nidec.com/ta450dc25/ta450dc25.htm

http://www.nidec.com/fanpdfs/ta450dc25.pdf



Can't find this fan on the net. I've googled everything. .08a fan with white 2pin power hook up. Wonder if they were special made just for the onkyo 2010 line. Think if I was to go thru with this, then I would need to get a 3-pin to 2-pin power adapter with a high end 120mm fan as it's hard to get a quality 120mm fan with 2pin power connector.


Even with my new fan noise issue (don't get me wrong, the noise is not that bad,,, im just a perfectionist),,,,, i'm still loving the 608. Sound and features of the 608 are just awesome. Going to figure this all out even if the fan noise doesn't go away... I've built many a computer tower before so changing this fan out will not be an issue if it goes that far.

Its good to see that onkyo is still using solid aluminum heat sinks in their mid line avrs, denon went to cheap crap folded tin on the 1910, its been down hill for denon. Onkyo is the last of the best bang for your buck. As for the onkyo fans, may use two or three may fit on that bar, the slow the speed the less noise and they will last longer.

Put a Noctua 120mm fan in there or maybe if you want to make people jealous put a LED fan in there so your receiver glows blue or red

Based on their part number list it's a 12V DC 120mm Plastic fan, well duh. The nomenclature doesn't specify what PL stands for, my guess is that it's a sleeve bearing fan, for the price of this receiver they most likely didn't go for a BB fan. I'll see what else I can dig up.

Take from this what you will:

"Nidec D12T-12PL - is 1500 rpm compared to NMB 1550 and slightly lower cfm, but slightly higher Db(A) - 28. Except it is sleeve."

from:

http://www.silentpcreview.com/forums...ddff224bed9c31

Did the vcr/return thing last night.. could not see any real difference before and after.. went back to the old setting .. I like the GUI too much to give it up, so even if there is a small degradation in PQ (which I did not see).. I can live with that. This thing is a heck of an AVR.

I should have read the manual fully.. did not even realize this thing would actually process HDMI .. that was unheard of not that long ago in a mid-level AVR ..

Here's the actual specs, it is a BB fan.

http://www.nidec.co.jp/product/fm/pdf/p34.pdf

I just got the 608; set it up last night to no real issues. The sound quality does seem much punchier coming from my old Yamaha. Since this is my first Onkyo, I've got a few questions that I was not able to get resolved last night: I'm using the fat PS3 as my blu ray player; what sound mode do I need to have the receiver on for the uncompressed audio? I currently have it on the multi-channel with THX cinema. Thanks for your help.

In most cases you should set it to LPCM if you using a HDMI connection to an AVR ...

Unless you have the newer "PS3 Slim" model, the PS3 will not bitstream advanced audio formats to your AVR (i.e., it can only bitstream basic Dolby Digital and DTS surround audio formats). All models of the PS3 can decode all of the Blu-ray Disc standard and optional audio formats and convert them to multichannel LPCM and pass that to your AVR via HDMI.

Basically no. I mean it works with analog signals but it just means you can't for example take digital signal from your computer and make it come out from 2 different places. This the reason I'm selling my Onkyo with about 2 hours of usage because I though that feature should like everywhere...live and learn.

There are some limitations .. you really should browse the manual at the Onkyo site .. in a nutshell, the answer is yes.. to a degree

Converted lurker here. Was originally seriously considering pioneer 1020 but the overlay volume osd, 15 pin Vga, power capability, and killer abt sale price got me. Anyway, I won't get mine for a couple of weeks. Can someone clear up a power consumption question? Back in the thread someone said with hdmi passthrough requires 30 watts even when the unit is off in standby. Is this true? That sounds like a lot of juice to me (I'm in California and my electric bill is ridiculous like the state!)

I use zone 2. If you are running a digital source from a component to the receiver you have to run a parallel analog source to the receiver from the same component if you want to have that component play over zone 2. Not a big deal to me, who does not have a ton of RCA cables laying around? My zone 2 is for patio speakers and the sound is just fine from the RCA cables. The receiver automatically uses the best source available so for zone 1 it uses the HDMI and zone 2 the RCA. When using zone 2 it will limit zone 1 to 5.1. When zone 2 is not active it will go back to 7.1. None of this is really a limitation to me, but it will depend on how you plan to use the receiver.

I am using an HDMI connection for sound and video. I understand that, because of it's construction, the "fat" PS3 won't ever display DTS on the receiver but that it does actually give you the uncompressed audio. I want to verify that I have the 608 configured correctly to receive that signal. If I have it set to multichannel, that will give me the lossless audio from the PS3?

When I first set up the receiver (and after running the Audyssey setup) it was presenting the sound in DPII with a THX mode. It was my understanding that pro logic created a pseudo surround sound setup by turning the sources 2 channels into a simulated 5.1. Is that correct?

That is why I changed the setup to the multi-channel configuration. Thanks again for the help.

**EDIT** I have already set the PS3 up with Linear PCM

aaronbaron,

I have a fat PS3 and after testing it on various mixes on the 608, felt that the simple 'multichannel' setting sounded best.

Basically, this mode does not apply any sound mixing, which is how I like it.
The 'direct' setting didn't work right (no subwoofer effects, etc)

I like the native HD sound coming from blu-rays, so I keep it native...no mixing.

I have a 7.1 Klipsch speaker set up.

While playing a disc press the button on the game controller or remote with the triangle icon. This will bring up a 'control panel'. Use the cursor (or arrow) keys to highlight and select the i+ icon and this will display the current audio and video codecs being used and the associated bit rates.

Thanks. I have Polk speakers and woofer in a 5.1 setup; I went with the bi-amping for the fronts instead of a 7.1 setup (someone correct me if this is a no-no). By native sound, do you mean without any THX modes?

Since the PS3 fat can only bitstream basic Dolby Digital and DTS surround audio formats, I am also wondering what native sound is..??