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post #2131 of 5217
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Originally Posted by DaveHCYJ View Post

I took a look in the 808 manual, you're right. It can pass everything out on component except hdmi.

Of Course - that would be a HDMI/HDCP License Violation.
post #2132 of 5217
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Originally Posted by moorepv View Post

Do any of the SRs support this. Or is it an HDMI pass-through? So far I can only find Denon's that support this.

Thanks!

The 608 can convert any of its inputs at any resolution to 1080P output over HDMI.
post #2133 of 5217
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Originally Posted by Tallsilver View Post

Hope it's okay to post here......no RC-260 thread.

For anyone interested, just upgraded my yammie 5960 to the RC-260 and all seems to be working great. Took about an hour to change all the cables, hook up speakers, and run Audyssey setup. All connections are HDMI.

Spent some time tweaking and the sound and video work great. Seem to get a fuller sound than with the yammie. Tested with Avatar BluRay and the sound was awesome. Audyssey does a much better job with the center speaker than the YPAO did. Using 3 microphone placements gives much better sound to the whole room.

Setup is: Panny 54G10 Display
Panny Bd60 BluRay
Motorola DVR
7.1 speaker setup using front high (Cheap Fluance Speakers)
Harmony One Remote

No heat issues with the Onkyo but the DVR always runs hot! Only setup problem was realizing the receiver's pass thru stayed at the last input. Had to give a power down command to switch to CAB/SAT so the wife can just turn the TV on. Imagine that!

So as with a lot of 608 owners, I'm a happy camper.

This is on my short list as well. Local dealer has a small amount of these on clearance. The price difference between the two is only $80 though and they might even discount the 608 more so I might be going with that. No issues with 24fps stuttering?

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Originally Posted by michaelahess View Post

I've seen no problems at all with either of my units. It's gotta be something with the other components being used.

I have PS3's and moto cable boxes, never have issues with Blu-Rays or any of my streaming content which runs the gamut from 720p-1080p at all possible refresh rates.

I've disabled all processing via all the tricks in this thread and have seen no difference in picture quality or smoothness. I'd consider myself an amateur videophile as well. Maybe not as picky as some of you guys but I have "Fast Eyes" so I usually notice most defects.

Is your PS3 set to output 24fps for BD? Just curious as I have the BD60 and PS3 both in my HT setup.
post #2134 of 5217
well i finally received my box yesterday and was very happy with how well abt packaged the box kudos to them. set up went straight forward. having the on screen options sure makes setting up the advanced receivers much easier. i do have some questions and i like some help from some of you experts. Disclaimer: i do not think there is anything wrong with the 608- i believe i just need help getting it configured correctly.
i am having a lot of trouble with the hdmi pass through. the biggest problem im having has to do with cec and my television. you see i have a fairly new television it's a mitsubishi 73c9 which was manufactured january of 2010. i just want to enable hdmi pass through so i can turn the receiver off and still use the television. unfortunately with all the hand shaking that the cec protocol seems to share the television and receiver are talking and doing things that i do not want them to! my television discovers a new device that it calls cec whenever a its talking to the receiver and in this mode if i change to game mode on the receiver it automatically changes back!
post #2135 of 5217
insaneoctane,

There should be an option in your TV's menus to disable CEC. You should be able to turn it off in your TV but leave it on in the 608 and they will stop talking to each other, but you should still have hdmi passthrough.
post #2136 of 5217
I posted this yesterday but don't know if anyone saw it. My 608 really annoys me when it cuts out the sound and then says something like Dialog -3 or something. Is there a way to disable this? Sometimes it doesn't happen for hours, sometimes it will happens many times only minutes apart. What is going on here?
post #2137 of 5217
anjoga,

I saw your post, but I can't really help you with why your sound is cutting out. Dialog Norm -3 is something to do with Dolby Digital. It typically shows up when you change channels and the receiver reacquires a new DD stream. Its just something internal to the DD codec and you don't really need to worry about it being displayed. However if you aren't changing channels/commercials coming on and off/bluray going through a bunch of intros, then you shouldn't be seeing that message pop up very often. If its popping up often while your in the middle of content then maybe you have a faulty connection of some sort?

How are connected to the 608? HDMI, optical, coax? Also, does it do it for all of your sources (bluray, cable, video game systems), or just one of them?
post #2138 of 5217
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Originally Posted by DaveHCYJ View Post

anjoga,

I saw your post, but I can't really help you with why your sound is cutting out. Dialog Norm -3 is something to do with Dolby Digital. It typically shows up when you change channels and the receiver reacquires a new DD stream. Its just something internal to the DD codec and you don't really need to worry about it being displayed. However if you aren't changing channels/commercials coming on and off/bluray going through a bunch of intros, then you shouldn't be seeing that message pop up very often. If its popping up often while your in the middle of content then maybe you have a faulty connection of some sort?

How are connected to the 608? HDMI, optical, coax? Also, does it do it for all of your sources (bluray, cable, video game systems), or just one of them?

I only notice it happening frequently when watching tv content from either of my two Directv HD DVR's. Both are connected by HDMI.
post #2139 of 5217
Not that I've noticed so far! Try looking at the "River" pricing. :-)
post #2140 of 5217
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Originally Posted by anjoga View Post

I only notice it happening frequently when watching tv content from either of my two Directv HD DVR's. Both are connected by HDMI.

Does it happen when you switch to commercials or even between commercials? Or is it happening while you're in the middle of the actual show?
post #2141 of 5217
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Originally Posted by eyeballer View Post

Does it happen when you switch to commercials or even between commercials? Or is it happening while you're in the middle of the actual show?

It happens in the middle of a show more often then switching to commercials, but it does happen both ways.
post #2142 of 5217
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Originally Posted by anjoga View Post

It happens in the middle of a show more often then switching to commercials, but it does happen both ways.

I guess you DID NOT try the Component Alternative
post #2143 of 5217
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Originally Posted by drhankz View Post

I guess you DID NOT try the Component Alternative

No, I tried your other suggestion of setting my DVR to only outputing 1080i and that solved my previous issue of the slow channel changing. Are you saying the two issues are related?
post #2144 of 5217
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Originally Posted by anjoga View Post

No, I tried your other suggestion of setting my DVR to only outputing 1080i and that solved my previous issue of the slow channel changing. Are you saying the two issues are related?

Yes - it is possible - HDMI handshakes go on all the time.

Initially when you change channels then at some interval
after that.

Trying Component will indicate if it is a HDMI problem
with your DVRs which is what I suspect.
post #2145 of 5217
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Originally Posted by drhankz View Post

Yes - it is possible - HDMI handshakes go on all the time.

Initially when you change channels then at some interval
after that.

Trying Component will indicate if it is a HDMI problem
with your DVRs which is what I suspect.

Interesting. So even after the initial HDMI handshake is completed and everything is good, it still does a handshake at some later point even if I'm still watching the same show?

I'm starting to think that HDMI is more trouble than it is worth when it comes to watching tv.
post #2146 of 5217
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Originally Posted by PreventerWind View Post

Thanks for your response guys.

Looking at the chart provided in the owner manual, I realized I asked the wrong question. LOL. I have a slightly different problem.

I have an HTPC, which can output HDMI, DVI, VGA, Optical audio. I can't buy a new HDTV just yet, so I don't have a way of getting video onto my TV. (Other than DLNA devices). My current TV will only accept component.

I was hoping I could get this receiver, and have it take the input from my HTPC and display it over component, but it doesn't seem possible. I can't use HDMI, because the 608 will not display HDMI input over component. Nor will it do so for DVI or VGA.

Does anyone know of a workaround for this? Maybe there is another device I could get in the meantime that could hold me over until I get a new HDTV?

Have you tried looking at a VGA to component cable, or maybe HDMI to component? They aren't very expensive, and you would have to get audio cables for sound also, but then at least you get everything on there.
post #2147 of 5217
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Originally Posted by anjoga View Post

Interesting. So even after the initial HDMI handshake is completed and everything is good, it still does a handshake at some later point even if I'm still watching the same show?

I'm starting to think that HDMI is more trouble than it is worth when it comes to watching tv.

Yep, I had that problem on an older Onkyo and then I decided to switch to Denon. Either way, Motorola DVR cable box works better with component and coax-digital for me. I will keep it that way for a while.
post #2148 of 5217
well, my 608 just arrived. Amazing how UPS will leave this on the porch without a knock, but I was watching for them. Just a quick hook up with my 3 fronts. Paradigm Monitor 5's and a CC-270. Still waiting for my second hdmi cable and some new speaker wire from monoprice before I can actually play a blu ray. Only took newegg from monday morning until 4 this afternoon to deliver it. Pretty happy so far. Will comment again when I get everything up and running. Wish me luck! By the way, I was gonna get the Denon 791, basically for the Denon sound I always hear about and the usb port for my ipod. But I am more then happy to just use the line in on the front. Is there a difference in audio quality if I had the usb connection instead? I wouldn't think so, but who knows.

I went thru some of the music sound modes. I think I like the Neo Thx Dts option so far the best with my ipod. Can't crank it yet, gotta work tonight and my roommate is sleeping. But will test it out in the morning. Glad it is shallow, because I only have about 3 inches in the back. About 1 1/2 on top, but plenty of space to the sides. Taller then I thought it would be. Stupid me just ordered it without checking the measurements first!! Well, any thoughts are welcome.
post #2149 of 5217

Please check your Main & DSP FW versions
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post #2150 of 5217
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Originally Posted by Mikl1984 View Post

Please check your Main & DSP FW versions
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Why should we do this?
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Originally Posted by Mikl1984 View Post


Please check your Main & DSP FW versions
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Where did you find this?
post #2152 of 5217
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Originally Posted by anjoga View Post


I'm starting to think that HDMI is more trouble than it is worth when it comes to watching tv.

Better yet - for TV - you loose NOTHING from Component and Optical.
post #2153 of 5217
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Originally Posted by drhankz View Post

Better yet - for TV - you loose NOTHING from Component and Optical.

^^^ +1, best video and audio a cable box can output is 1080i and DD 5.1.
post #2154 of 5217
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Originally Posted by Xerowarp View Post

I am no expert by any stretch of the imagination. However, the 608 has been absolutely flawless for me. Audio and video are perfect and I have not encountered any problems at all. Most of the issues people have are 99% operator error or issues that are related to connecting components( PS3 ). Go ahead and pull the trigger on the 608, you'll be glad you did.

I'll second that with a big + 1 .. the noted issues are more compatability and set up that any inherent flaws in the 608 ..
post #2155 of 5217
To once again reinterate the minor processing that takes place in through mode/ HDMI .. in order to have an GUI / OSD .. there HAS to be some minor processing that takes place. That's just the way it is, folks. And the processing is MINOR. I'll take the GUI / OSD any day of the week over a fully disabled ..
post #2156 of 5217
Just pulled the trigger on one of these. Couldn't pass on te great price from big river
post #2157 of 5217
So, my Onkyo TX SR608 that I bought? Yeah, it's alright. But for some reason whenever I'm watching a bluray and a loud explosion happens, the receiver turns itself to standby mode. Like, it happened like 15 times during The Watchmen. Anyone know what the deal with that is?

It only happens when the volume is above a certain point. It played the same scene muted, then I turned it down to 50 and it played it, then I turned it back up to 60 and I went into standby again....


Now, worse than before, it is stuck in standby mode and won't come out of it. Unplugged it, and re-plugged it back into the power and it still won't wake up. The red light that says standby on the front of the receiver just keeps blinking. When I hit the power/standby button the receiver makes an audible "click" sound the same one it used to make when it was powering up correctly then after about ~5seconds it makes another "click" sound but it is instead the sound it makes when powering down normally.

The only button that makes anything display on the front of the receiver is hitting the "Zone 2" button but it still doesn't do anything.

Any ideas? I called onkyo support, but this just happened now and they closed like 3 hours ago.
post #2158 of 5217
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Originally Posted by Xilpaxim View Post

Have you tried looking at a VGA to component cable, or maybe HDMI to component? They aren't very expensive, and you would have to get audio cables for sound also, but then at least you get everything on there.

Yes, I've tried them. None of them work. In fact, I've read that those VGA to component cables are for projectors not TVs.

Anywho, I've decided to buy a temp TV for now. I'm choosing between the PN42C450 vs TC-P42C2. When I'm ready to get my HT going, this TV will go in the bedroom.

Thanks for everyone's help.
post #2159 of 5217
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Originally Posted by mgkdragn View Post

To once again reinterate the minor processing that takes place in through mode/ HDMI .. in order to have an GUI / OSD .. there HAS to be some minor processing that takes place. That's just the way it is, folks. And the processing is MINOR. I'll take the GUI / OSD any day of the week over a fully disabled ..

if you consider loss of detail, stuttering, and altering colors minor, then i agree.
post #2160 of 5217
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Originally Posted by Burtletoy View Post

So, my Onkyo TX SR608 that I bought? Yeah, it's alright. But for some reason whenever I'm watching a bluray and a loud explosion happens, the receiver turns itself to standby mode. Like, it happened like 15 times during The Watchmen. Anyone know what the deal with that is?

It only happens when the volume is above a certain point. It played the same scene muted, then I turned it down to 50 and it played it, then I turned it back up to 60 and I went into standby again....


Now, worse than before, it is stuck in standby mode and won't come out of it. Unplugged it, and re-plugged it back into the power and it still won't wake up. The red light that says standby on the front of the receiver just keeps blinking. When I hit the power/standby button the receiver makes an audible "click" sound the same one it used to make when it was powering up correctly then after about ~5seconds it makes another "click" sound but it is instead the sound it makes when powering down normally.

The only button that makes anything display on the front of the receiver is hitting the "Zone 2" button but it still doesn't do anything.

Any ideas? I called onkyo support, but this just happened now and they closed like 3 hours ago.

Sounds like a wiring problem to me. Check the back of all your speakers and the back of the unit, make sure nothing is shorting out anywhere/stray wires/etc.
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