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post #3901 of 5217
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Originally Posted by Vietguy View Post

Yes it lights up with DTS HD Master and Audyssey Dynamic EQ.

cool thx...changed some setting and got it to work
post #3902 of 5217
Hi to all!

Please help me on this issue (this is driving me crazy):

some background--> I have PS3 (the first edition fat with 60GB) and Onkyo TX-SR608 and Epson TW-5500 full HD projector. The problem is that when the projector is used and it is showing the main ps3 desktop, the screen is blinking. Usually when movie starts the blinking stops (no matter is it blu-ray or dvd). Yesterday even the dvd picture was blinking. If I will check from my satellite HD box something via onkyo and Epson TW-5500 no problem.

I have tried change the HDMI inputs for PS3, but it does not fix the problem. I haven't set off the OSD. And the funny part is that sometimes it does not blink even in the main screen of PS3. I have tried different cables, but no change. If the whole set is connected to my full HD Sony tv, no problem. Also I have checked that if the PS3 is connected directly to projector, no problem!

I really would appreciate your help on this!!
post #3903 of 5217
I ran Audyssey and it set my fronts, surrounds and center all to 40Hz. My sub stayed at 120Hz. I have a 5.1 setup.

Should I keep everything at 40Hz? Keep my sub at 120Hz?

Fronts/Surrounds: Polk M50. Center: Polk CS1. Sub: PA-120.
post #3904 of 5217
Sorry if this has already been asked, but I didn´t scan the whole of the whooping 131 pages of this thread.. Tried checking the manual but didn´t find anything on this..

I have just calibrated my Onkyo TX-SR608 with my plasma Samsung PS50B855 connected to a Samsung Sound bar. But I don´t get any DTS-HD sound when playing video from my WDTW. Does this mean that the Onkyo must be directly connected to speakers in order to get the DTS-HD sound? The soundbar is unfortnunately only possible to connect to the TV since the Onkyo doesn´t have any optical out..

Also, If I buy 2 stereo-speakers will they work on the Onkyo, or does it only accept 5.1/7.1 speaker systems?

Thanks!
post #3905 of 5217
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Originally Posted by 33degrees View Post

Sorry if this has already been asked, but I didn´t scan the whole of the whooping 131 pages of this thread.. Tried checking the manual but didn´t find anything on this..

I have just calibrated my Onkyo TX-SR608 with my plasma Samsung PS50B855 connected to a Samsung Sound bar. But I don´t get any DTS-HD sound when playing video from my WDTW. Does this mean that the Onkyo must be directly connected to speakers in order to get the DTS-HD sound? The soundbar is unfortnunately only possible to connect to the TV since the Onkyo doesn´t have any optical out..

Also, If I buy 2 stereo-speakers will they work on the Onkyo, or does it only accept 5.1/7.1 speaker systems?

Thanks!

Hi 33degrees, to get HD audio your source needs to be connected directly to receiver via HDMI.

Yes the receiver will accept 2 speaker setup and up.
post #3906 of 5217
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Originally Posted by rubix View Post

I ran Audyssey and it set my fronts, surrounds and center all to 40Hz. My sub stayed at 120Hz. I have a 5.1 setup.

Should I keep everything at 40Hz? Keep my sub at 120Hz?

Fronts/Surrounds: Polk M50. Center: Polk CS1. Sub: PA-120.

Hi rubix, set front speakers to 60Hz or 80Hz (try both and hear which sound better to your ears), center & surround to 80Hz and leave sub at 120Hz.
post #3907 of 5217
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Originally Posted by hoqane View Post

Hi to all!

Please help me on this issue (this is driving me crazy):

some background--> I have PS3 (the first edition fat with 60GB) and Onkyo TX-SR608 and Epson TW-5500 full HD projector. The problem is that when the projector is used and it is showing the main ps3 desktop, the screen is blinking. Usually when movie starts the blinking stops (no matter is it blu-ray or dvd). Yesterday even the dvd picture was blinking. If I will check from my satellite HD box something via onkyo and Epson TW-5500 no problem.

I have tried change the HDMI inputs for PS3, but it does not fix the problem. I haven't set off the OSD. And the funny part is that sometimes it does not blink even in the main screen of PS3. I have tried different cables, but no change. If the whole set is connected to my full HD Sony tv, no problem. Also I have checked that if the PS3 is connected directly to projector, no problem!

I really would appreciate your help on this!!

Hi hoqane, this may or may not help but try turning off Deep colour settings in the PS3 menu found under "Display Settings".
post #3908 of 5217
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Originally Posted by subysouth View Post

I purchased an Onkyo 608 and it arrived on Xmas eve. I set it up within our components and ran the Audyssey setup and put in a BD and I am getting nothing but a PCM signal registering on the receiver.

edit: and yes I tried multiple discs and components that I know should be outfeeding true 5.1 and better outputs.

Hi subysouth, if you have the receiver HDMI Control or Audio Tv Out set to "On" try turning this to off.
post #3909 of 5217
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Originally Posted by Stryker412 View Post

Ok I just spoke with Tech Support at Onkyo, he had me press display for a few seconds and "Unknown 480p" came up. He said basically the receiver is not getting any signals from the HDMI ports so it has to go back to Amazon.

Sorry to hear that.
post #3910 of 5217
I've ordered my 608. it will arrive tomorrow, followed by a Polk Audio CSi3 center, and a pair of RTi4 bookshelves. this system will replace my 2002 RCA 2500something or other.. should be good. My RCA sounds great, to me.., but doesn't even have component in, so i've never used as a video switch.

I'll be attaching it a shuttle HTPC to it, then out to a 46" Sony 120hz LCD . the HTPC is my primary source of streaming video, and dvd/br as i don't have cable. Does it matter which hdmi IN i use on the back of the unit?
post #3911 of 5217
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Originally Posted by JChin View Post

Hi 33degrees, to get HD audio your source needs to be connected directly to receiver via HDMI.

Yes the receiver will accept 2 speaker setup and up.

Thanks! The WDTW is directly connected to the Onkyo via HDMI. But the speakers go from TV since it is a soundbar with only optical in. So I just figured that since no speakers are connected directly to the Onkyo I am not getting the HD-DTS.
post #3912 of 5217
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Originally Posted by hankhill11 View Post

I've ordered my 608. it will arrive tomorrow, followed by a Polk Audio CSi3 center, and a pair of RTi4 bookshelves. this system will replace my 2002 RCA 2500something or other.. should be good. My RCA sounds great, to me.., but doesn't even have component in, so i've never used as a video switch.

I'll be attaching it a shuttle HTPC to it, then out to a 46" Sony 120hz LCD . the HTPC is my primary source of streaming video, and dvd/br as i don't have cable. Does it matter which hdmi IN i use on the back of the unit?

Hi hankhill11, no it does not matter.
post #3913 of 5217
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Originally Posted by 33degrees View Post

Thanks! The WDTW is directly connected to the Onkyo via HDMI. But the speakers go from TV since it is a soundbar with only optical in. So I just figured that since no speakers are connected directly to the Onkyo I am not getting the HD-DTS.

So you're passing audio through receiver to tv via HDMI? And by setting HDMI Control and Audio Tv Out to On? If so it will not work.
post #3914 of 5217
Hi all,

Just found this forum and just in time as I am in the process of purchasing my first receiver.

Is this receiver a good choice or does it have too many functions which I dont really need? I am not really a "sound guy" but I am tired of listening to music with crappy creative PC speakers, and watching movies with the speakers in my TV as the only sound source.

My plan is to hook up my PS3, PC and TV to this thing, and run it with 2 speakers. When I get a bigger place I may want to add some speakers. It will be used mostly for music and movies.

Do you guys think the Onkyo TX-SR608 is a good choice for me? Any other suggestions is greatly appreciated.

Cheers
post #3915 of 5217
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Originally Posted by birger11 View Post

Hi all,

Just found this forum and just in time as I am in the process of purchasing my first receiver.

Is this receiver a good choice or does it have too many functions which I dont really need? I am not really a "sound guy" but I am tired of listening to music with crappy creative PC speakers, and watching movies with the speakers in my TV as the only sound source.

My plan is to hook up my PS3, PC and TV to this thing, and run it with 2 speakers. When I get a bigger place I may want to add some speakers. It will be used mostly for music and movies.

Do you guys think the Onkyo TX-SR608 is a good choice for me? Any other suggestions is greatly appreciated.

Cheers

If you're only going to run 2 speakers, I'd check out the SR308 instead. Amazon has one for $200.

As for this one, I plan on the same hookup and have been looking at the posts from those who have a PS3 closely. I currently own the SR604 which has been flawless, but the addition of video processing and 3D in the Onkyo makes it different.
post #3916 of 5217
Hello All,

Thanks for all the great questions and answers. I think I managed to read the whole thing, and I have more questions. This is a bit long-winded and noobish, but I'm hoping this can help others, like myself. Hopefully it's not too confusing. I'd be happy to clarify anything if needed.

My setup: (12AWG all around w/banana plug)
608 receiver
Polk Monitor 70 (Series 2) - Fronts
Polk RM8 - Center
Pioneer S-31B-LR-K - Surrounds
PS3 Slim for Blu-Ray and Games over HDMI
No Sub (can't afford yet/in apartment shouldn't press my luck)

First things first. I re-examined the power specs for the receiver and I'm concerned that I could be overpowering my surrounds, however unlikely. They're listed as 120W/6Ohm with a 3kHz crossover. I see there's a rated power output at 125W/6Ohm w/2ch driven at 1kHz. Am I overpowering the speakers (can it be limited)? Also, when I ran Audyssey, it set the crossover for the surrounds at 80Hz (THX). Would it be recommended that I bump it around? I tried running it up to 3kHz, but I think it stopped at a few hundred Hz, so I've left it alone at THX.

On to the fronts:
I set the Monitor 70s up as bi-amped through the receiver. I read that they can take 275W, so I figured bi-amping was the best way to realize their full potential. However, I'm relatively unimpressed with their performance so far, so something must be wrong.
Setting to bi-amp auto set the crossover to Full Range. I have yet to get the bass out of the speakers that I thought a speaker of this size should output. I'm in a small (12x16) room, so I figure this room should shake. I turned on a war movie figuring I'd get some booms, but they're puny. The loud, low "whoosh" of a cannon ball is almost inaudible.
I've been hunting everywhere for the power difference with bi-amping vs. jumpering. Am I actually getting near 200W to each front? Would I get better wattage with just one cable and a jumper? My concern with trying that set up falls back on my surrounds - I don't want to overpower them, so I'm worried it'd shift more power to them if I removed the bi-amp setting.

The other reason I feel like I've got it set up incorrectly, is I've got to turn the volume up into the 60s near 70 to get it as loud as I'd like it, and I still don't get the bass performance. Maybe I'm not selecting the right listening settings or something? Can anyone point me in the right direction?

Thanks to anyone who made it to the bottom! Thank you for any help at all!

-Noob
post #3917 of 5217
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Originally Posted by JChin View Post

Hi hoqane, this may or may not help but try turning off Deep colour settings in the PS3 menu found under "Display Settings".

Hi JChin!

I have already done that but still the problem exists. I do have the "first" edition "fat" PS3, so I don't know does it matter in this one, cause when the ps3 is connected directly to the projector, it is not blinkin at all or when it is connected to TV, no problemo!
post #3918 of 5217
hello everyone!

Just want to ask if "Component input" connection can be used while the AVR is on standby mode ?
AVR ------HDMI-----LCDTV
PS3 --HDMI---- AVR---- works in standby mode
Xtreamer pro --HDMI----AVR--- works in standby mode
Sonydvd player --Component---- did not work!


regards to all
post #3919 of 5217
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Originally Posted by dvven View Post

hello everyone!

Just want to ask if "Component input" connection can be used while the AVR is on standby mode ?
AVR ------HDMI-----LCDTV
PS3 --HDMI---- AVR---- works in standby mode
Xtreamer pro --HDMI----AVR--- works in standby mode
Sonydvd player --Component---- did not work!


regards to all

Hi dvven, sorry no only HDMI Input.
post #3920 of 5217
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Originally Posted by hoqane View Post

Hi JChin!

I have already done that but still the problem exists. I do have the "first" edition "fat" PS3, so I don't know does it matter in this one, cause when the ps3 is connected directly to the projector, it is not blinkin at all or when it is connected to TV, no problemo!

How long is the HDMI cable from receiver to projector and what AWG size being use?

When testing direct to tv, how long was the cable? Or was it tested with HDMI cable coming out of receiver?
post #3921 of 5217
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Originally Posted by JChin View Post
So you're passing audio through receiver to tv via HDMI? And by setting HDMI Control and Audio Tv Out to On? If so it will not work.
Thanks again! I figured as much that you need dedicated speakers to get HD-DTS. But even when I plug in headphones to the receiver it still doesn´t play any HD-DTS sound. Maybe the Onkyo won´t output the sound because the WDTV doesn´t have the HD-DTS codec...
post #3922 of 5217
Hi all have a quick question about the 608 - i will be getting one later this year (hopefully) and I want to know if anyone has tried to hook it up as follows.

I intend to hook my blu-ray player to my plasma directly with a htmi cable (haven't got the bluray player yet )
I intend to use the coaxial out on the blu-ray to feed the dtsHD / dts Master Audio / dolby digital HD audio into the coax "in" on the 608. I know I can use the 608 to pass tru the hdmi to the plasma but I would rather not do this if i can.

My question is can I send the video to the tv with the hdmi and send the audio to the 608 with the coax
or will I have to use the hdmi to feed the audio to the amp and then take the hdmi out from the amp to the tv

And one last question re the hdmi pass tru feature is there a "set" hdmi input that the reciever passes the signal true (say the bd dvd input) when in standby mode or is the number of the hdmi input "user" selectable
Thanks

Larry
post #3923 of 5217
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Originally Posted by lt-cartman View Post

Hi all have a quick question about the 608 - i will be getting one later this year (hopefully) and I want to know if anyone has tried to hook it up as follows.

I intend to hook my blu-ray player to my plasma directly with a htmi cable (haven't got the bluray player yet )
I intend to use the coaxial out on the blu-ray to feed the dtsHD / dts Master Audio / dolby digital HD audio into the coax "in" on the 608. I know I can use the 608 to pass tru the hdmi to the plasma but I would rather not do this if i can.

My question is can I send the video to the tv with the hdmi and send the audio to the 608 with the coax
or will I have to use the hdmi to feed the audio to the amp and then take the hdmi out from the amp to the tv

And one last question re the hdmi pass tru feature is there a "set" hdmi input that the reciever passes the signal true (say the bd dvd input) when in standby mode or is the number of the hdmi input "user" selectable
Thanks

Larry

Hi Larry, your setup connection will work except it won't get HD audio(DTSHD/TrueHD) via coaxial. To get HD audio the BD source has to be connected to receiver via HDMI.

Option would be to purchase a BD player that has two HDMI out, one to tv and one to receiver.
post #3924 of 5217
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Originally Posted by lt-cartman View Post

And one last question re the hdmi pass tru feature is there a "set" hdmi input that the reciever passes the signal true (say the bd dvd input) when in standby mode or is the number of the hdmi input "user" selectable
Thanks

Larry

There are no selectable (not like Denon), it basically uses the last HDMI input thats on before placing the receiver to Standby.
post #3925 of 5217
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Originally Posted by JChin View Post

Hi Larry, your setup connection will work except it won't get HD audio(DTSHD/TrueHD) via coaxial. To get HD audio the BD source has to be connected to receiver via HDMI.

Option would be to purchase a BD player that has two HDMI out, one to tv and one to receiver.

Hi JChin

Thanks for the clarification on the coax issue and the hdmi issue

Thanks again

Larry
post #3926 of 5217
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Originally Posted by JChin View Post

Sorry to hear that.

Got my replacement 608 today. I have to say Amazon was very good about the whole thing, and over nighted a replacement to me before I had even sent the other one back. I just wanted to report that the video is working great and came on right away. I didn't hook up the speakers just yet so I could test the video to make sure that worked first thing.

I tested the XBOX360 and PS3 but didn't see any green dots. I confirmed via the AVR that it was getting a 1080p signal. When did these people report seeing green dots? I just booted it up to the dashboard.
post #3927 of 5217
hey guys, got my 608 set up initially with my old speakers. it sounds good. I'm not running audysseey til i get my new speakers, so it should get better.

The thing is, i've seen this issue all over the place, and nodw i have it.. i've spent about 4 hours doing this and that, but sstill can't get DTS HD or Dolby HD to show on the display of the 608. i've tested 3 or 4 movies, and i can get normal dts to show up... just not their +HD counterpart..

my source is a windows7 htpc with radeon hd5450+7.1 audio out, which includes HD sound. PowerDVD 10 is my player, and it does see it as dts-hd, but output shows 'compressed data' and the 608 doesn't smile at me with the HD light. I am using HDMI of course. What could i be missing? do you HAVE to run audyssee before getting hd sound?

Cyberlink's website even lists the radeon HD5000 series as having loss less pass through..

**********
EDIT- finally got it. Latest Catalyst driver did not seem to want to stream true HD. I ended up finding the 'latest' realTek hdmi audio driver, file name is HDMI_R255.exe. installed, rebooted, tested with Gladiator and got brilliant DTS-HD. tested with 300 and got brilliant Dolby TrueHD.
post #3928 of 5217
HI JChin one last question will i also not get HD audio(DTSHD/TrueHD) from the optical out

thanks

Larry
post #3929 of 5217
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Originally Posted by JChin View Post

How long is the HDMI cable from receiver to projector and what AWG size being use?

When testing direct to tv, how long was the cable? Or was it tested with HDMI cable coming out of receiver?

Hi JChin.

The cable is 7.5m long and it was the same cable in both tests. THe problem only occurs when it goes from receiver to projector. The cable is HDMI 1.3 family cable. I think that it cannot be the cable, cause when it is connected directly from ps3 to projector, no problem. When it is like PS3->Onkyo->Projector= usually screen blinking, with normal PS3 desktop. WHen movie starts, usually it stops. I did of course try to connect audio from PS3 to receiver via optical cable and hooked the ps3 to projector, but then I can't have HD sound, so I have decided to find a cure so I can do it the normal way. I will test tonÃ*ght following: will connect the receiver to projector with shorter cable to see does it make any difference...
post #3930 of 5217
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Originally Posted by lt-cartman View Post

HI JChin one last question will i also not get HD audio(DTSHD/TrueHD) from the optical out

thanks

Larry

Everything needs to be HDMI - the Source [player]
__________________________AVR [receiver]
__________________________Display [TV or Projector]
Anytime HDMI is not there you do not get HD-Video or Audio
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