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post #4111 of 5217
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Originally Posted by mayxc View Post

I am trying to decide if THX mode would be a useful feature that I might be able to use (now or in the future with some upgrade). Can you please share your experience if you have used the THX mode of the SR608 with good results? Does it enhance your audio or movie experience? Do you need particular (THX certified?) speakers or just any decent speakers that can handle the crossover frequency? What would be the best speaker setup, decoding options, etc that can get the most improvement out of THX? For what purpose do you use it for in general? Thanks much for any tips.

I basically use THX mode for watching movies 100% of the time, to me its the best choice. Ive done some pretty extensive testing of my own trying different BD's on different settings but THX Cinema wins for me.
One thing though can someone answer this...? is that the Audyssey 2EQ set my front L and R to x-over to my sub at 40Hz. I understand that THX is recommended @80Hz but are there any pro's and cons to changing the Audyssey setting to match the THX preference? My sub starts at about 14-16 Hz set on THX reference volume. I tried it today but didnt notice any real differences with normal sounding scenes havent tried with sub heavy scenes yet.. Will have to wait til later for that. So is there any technical reason why i should maintain the Audyssey set x-over.... thanks
post #4112 of 5217
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Originally Posted by bushy81 View Post

I basically use THX mode for watching movies 100% of the time, to me its the best choice. Ive done some pretty extensive testing of my own trying different BD's on different settings but THX Cinema wins for me.
One thing though can someone answer this...? is that the Audyssey 2EQ set my front L and R to x-over to my sub at 40Hz. I understand that THX is recommended @80Hz but are there any pro's and cons to changing the Audyssey setting to match the THX preference? My sub starts at about 14-16 Hz set on THX reference volume. I tried it today but didnt notice any real differences with normal sounding scenes havent tried with sub heavy scenes yet.. Will have to wait til later for that. So is there any technical reason why i should maintain the Audyssey set x-over.... thanks

I guess it depends on the frequency range of your front speakers. Sounds like the auto setup has figured they produce a good response down to 40hz meaning your sub doesnt need to kick in till then. A higher sub crossover would be suited to smaller speakers that dont offer good frequency response at lower levels.

If you dont notice any difference, I would just leave it the way it is.
post #4113 of 5217
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Originally Posted by Dodgexander View Post

I guess it depends on the frequency range of your front speakers. Sounds like the auto setup has figured they produce a good response down to 40hz meaning your sub doesnt need to kick in till then. A higher sub crossover would be suited to smaller speakers that dont offer good frequency response at lower levels.
If you dont notice any difference, I would just leave it the way it is.

Yeah i was thinking that. The front speakers are pretty capable and were designed to go down to less than 30hz. I'll keep having a play around and see whats best, put a few demo discs on and really test the LFE out at varying x-over settings. Cheers dodgex
post #4114 of 5217
Hi i have a little problem with the receiver so far. the problem is when i turn off the receiver and goes to standby mode and im watching a movie on the ps3 with 5.1 audio in the tv i cant hear the voices, is like the amp is still decoding at 5.1 channel, i don't have any problems with the xbox 360 at all if i turn off the amp with the xbox i can still hear the voices in the movie, its only a ps3 problem, the ps3 is connected via hdmi, thanks in advance for the help.
post #4115 of 5217
I've got my 608 for about a week and now I am seriously considering whether I should return it and trade up for a Pioneer 1120K.
I am sure there are probably people who find it really useful to manually set the listening modes everytime they play something.
However, since my entertainment system primarily consists of a PC at the moment, this makes things very interesting.
A lot of times, I do not hear audio at all.
For instance, I just watched a Bluray movie. It had no problem playing with the DTS Master HD sound track. I exited the movie, switched back to my browser and Youtube has no sound. It took me a while to figure out why there is no sound. The 608 LCD display says PCM MultiCH. Pressing TV/Movie on the remote, switched the format to All Channel Stereo then I get some sound. OK, I do not understand why Youtube does not work with PCM MultiCH. But it is rather annoying that this would happen. And this is not the first time such weird annoyances have occurred.
It also happens after playing a game then try to listen to an MP3 afterwards.
I would need to come and press the Music listening mode to get my sound back.
Is there an "intelligent" or "auto" function somewhere that would automatically figure out what do when it detects the audio stream regardless of the format?
My previous Onkyo HTX-22HDX and 22HD never had issues like these that I could recall of. So if the lower-end HTIB units could do it, what am I doing wrong or why does the 608 not have this capability?
Any help is appreciated before I decide to return/replace the 608.
post #4116 of 5217
My one input has an issue. I noticed on some dark scenes I would get actual white noise/artifacting. When I switched the HDMI cable back to just my TV instead of going through the AVR, it was fine. Looks like I have a bad input.
post #4117 of 5217
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Originally Posted by oni222 View Post

Hey guys quick question, when I connect my second sub in my 7.2 system and I try to calibrate it the machine cannot see either sub, but when I only connect one it works fine!

Also I get allot of hissing on the speakers and the occasional tap on the subs. It happens less when I only have one sub connected but none stop when I have both on.

Any help is deeply appreciated.

PS: My setup is on my sig but my second sub is a less watt intensive sub. I forget the exact model since I am currently at work but the whole system is Polk.

Can anybody help me please?
post #4118 of 5217
I've searched pretty hard and I couldn't find the answer to this, so I hope someone can help me. I have my Xbox 360 hooked up over optical audio, but for some reason the audio screen always shows
Input: Dolby D 5.1
Output Direct 2.0

Setting the Listening Mode Preset makes no difference, and all four Listening Mode buttons on the remote just cause "Not available" to flash on the display on the receiver. I don't understand why Dolby 5.1 is coming in but I can't get it to work. This is my only device hooked up through optical. Everything else is on HDMI, and those all work fine with whatever input mode they use, including Dolby 5.1. Thanks so much for your help!
post #4119 of 5217
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Originally Posted by FelisPuma View Post

I've searched pretty hard and I couldn't find the answer to this, so I hope someone can help me. I have my Xbox 360 hooked up over optical audio, but for some reason the audio screen always shows
Input: Dolby D 5.1
Output Direct 2.0

Setting the Listening Mode Preset makes no difference, and all four Listening Mode buttons on the remote just cause "Not available" to flash on the display on the receiver. I don't understand why Dolby 5.1 is coming in but I can't get it to work. This is my only device hooked up through optical. Everything else is on HDMI, and those all work fine with whatever input mode they use, including Dolby 5.1. Thanks so much for your help!

Check your listening mode presets in setup for that input. Menu #5.
post #4120 of 5217
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Originally Posted by phenwick View Post

Check your listening mode presets in setup for that input. Menu #5.

As I said in the post, it doesn't seem like it makes a difference. I tried all the presets that didn't sound like stereo or mono, and it always comes as Direct 2.0 anyway. Do you know which preset might help? Also, given that I can't change listening mode directly, with the remote, I wonder if the presets will make a difference. Thanks!
post #4121 of 5217
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Originally Posted by Stryker412 View Post

My one input has an issue. I noticed on some dark scenes I would get actual white noise/artifacting. When I switched the HDMI cable back to just my TV instead of going through the AVR, it was fine. Looks like I have a bad input.

Try turning off noise enhancement which is set to low by default. I was getting the same thing on dark scenes and that worked for me.
post #4122 of 5217
Page 35 thru 37 of the manual lists the listening modes and how they handle a particular source. I personally use the 'THX Select 2' modes, cinema, games, etc. for my 7.1 system.
post #4123 of 5217
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Originally Posted by FelisPuma View Post

I've searched pretty hard and I couldn't find the answer to this, so I hope someone can help me. I have my Xbox 360 hooked up over optical audio, but for some reason the audio screen always shows
Input: Dolby D 5.1
Output Direct 2.0

Setting the Listening Mode Preset makes no difference, and all four Listening Mode buttons on the remote just cause "Not available" to flash on the display on the receiver. I don't understand why Dolby 5.1 is coming in but I can't get it to work. This is my only device hooked up through optical. Everything else is on HDMI, and those all work fine with whatever input mode they use, including Dolby 5.1. Thanks so much for your help!

Hi FelisPuma, is your Xbox 360 hooked up with HDMI and Optical or Component/Composite and Optical to receiver? Or Xbox 360 video (HDMI or Component/Composite) to Tv and Xbox 360 audio to receiver via optical?

Maybe try setting "Audio Selector" to OPT for Xbox 360 input.
post #4124 of 5217
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Originally Posted by JChin View Post

is your Xbox 360 hooked up with HDMI and Optical or Component/Composite and Optical to receiver?

Thanks for the reply JChin! My 360 is hooked up to the receiver with Component / Optical. I have an older unit with no HDMI.
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Originally Posted by JChin View Post

Maybe try setting "Audio Selector" to OPT for Xbox 360 input.

I have the Audio Selector to OPT, so I do get sound. It's just coming out of the speakers as 2.0, which is really frustrating, because the input is reporting as Dolby D 5.1. I don't understand why the receiver is detect Dolby 5.1 input and then giving me stereo output. The listening mode buttons all cause "Not available" when I try to change it, which I don't understand.
post #4125 of 5217
Anyone know why the lyrics on rockband xbox 360 look fuzzy? I do not undsrstand why this is happening. No matter how I set the output (passthrough, auto, or a specific resolution) the lyrics are fuzzy when scrolling on the screen. Is there anything else I have to set? Thanks.
post #4126 of 5217
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Originally Posted by FelisPuma View Post

Thanks for the reply JChin! My 360 is hooked up to the receiver with Component / Optical. I have an older unit with no HDMI.

I have the Audio Selector to OPT, so I do get sound. It's just coming out of the speakers as 2.0, which is really frustrating, because the input is reporting as Dolby D 5.1. I don't understand why the receiver is detect Dolby 5.1 input and then giving me stereo output. The listening mode buttons all cause "Not available" when I try to change it, which I don't understand.

Is this the only source that output 2CH stereo or other sources are as well? Do you receiver HDMI Control or Audio Tv Out set to On? If so try turning it Off.
post #4127 of 5217
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Originally Posted by JChin View Post

Is this the only source that output 2CH stereo or other sources are as well? Do you receiver HDMI Control or Audio Tv Out set to On? If so try turning it Off.

This is the only source that isn't HDMI, and it's also the only one that's doing stereo when it shouldn't.

I tried turning off HDMI Control, and that fixed the problem, but I can't do HDMI passthru for my cable box then. Is it the expected behavior to be unable to do HDMI passthru when the receiver is off, if you have more than stereo output for optical inputs? I suspect it's not because all of my other 5.1 inputs work fine (computer, cable box and blu-ray) over HDMI, even while HDMI Control and Audio TV Out are on.

Anyway, thanks so much for a fix! I just wish this wasn't required.
post #4128 of 5217
^^^ if cable box is the only source you want pass thru, then just connect it directly to tv via HDMI and also run an optical cable from cable box to receiver.
post #4129 of 5217
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Originally Posted by dadstv View Post

Try turning off noise enhancement which is set to low by default. I was getting the same thing on dark scenes and that worked for me.


Thanks for that tip, I'll try it out.
post #4130 of 5217
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Originally Posted by oni222 View Post

Can anybody help me please?

wow not even one person to help!
post #4131 of 5217
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Originally Posted by oni222 View Post

Hey guys quick question, when I connect my second sub in my 7.2 system and I try to calibrate it the machine cannot see either sub, but when I only connect one it works fine!

Hi oni222, when both are connected did both sub produce a test tone?

What are the sub settings? Is the subwoofer Power toggle switch set to On during auto setup or Auto?

When it worked with one sub connected, did you test the 2nd sub pre out?

Since you got one sub to work as 7.1, did you test the other sub as 7.1 as well?
post #4132 of 5217
Appears there is a firmware update floating around. Update is done through an optical connection. Check this thread:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...7#post19796347
post #4133 of 5217
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Originally Posted by allupons View Post

Results!

Ok, so I tested the VCR/Return change and set it to Skip. The results were a passthrough that is entirely untouched! All of the processing and noise reduction and banding are now entirely gone. This is exactly what I was hoping for as now I have the gorgeous unaltered video to match the amazing audio this receiver produces.

There is a tradeoff though. Once you do this you lose the very attractive over-the-screen menu display. You can still adjust all the settings that were visible in this menu by viewing the settings directly on the receiver's lcd, but clearly this isnt ideal. You still have the comprehensive full screen menu's such as the Setup button that steal the entire screen, but things like the Video or Audio button now only show the settings on the receivers lcd, along with things like volume adjust. Lastly, this is only true of HDMI so these on screen menus still appear with component or composite video, and you can still upscale these sources as well if you wish to, so that is good news.

Basically, I am very happy with this result. My best solution is to get the settings to where I like them with the onscreen menus turned on, then use the VCR/Return menu to set video processing to skip to disable all of the colorspace alterations, the noise reduction filters, and the sharpening so that I can have the best possible image quality. Also, I mentioned this once before but Lucas THX recommends setting the VCR/Return to skip as well for best possible image.

Hopefully some find this helpful.

I was planning to purchase this receiver before hearing about this issue and now I'm second guessing this decision. I don't necessarily like giving up the nice on screen display but I suppose that's not a deal killer in itself. The big question for me is this: Does this "fix" stick or do you have to enable it every time you turn the machine on / switch inputs / whatever?
post #4134 of 5217
Hi,

I use Onkyo TX-SR608 receiver. I am considering to upgrade my 5.1 speaker system to 7.1. I plan to add 2 side surround speakers and for that, I am considering PBS Speakers model Image S50:

http://www.psbspeakers.com/products/...product_detail

However, reading it's spec, it states that it has impedance of :

Nominal 6 Ohms
Minimum 4 Ohms

Question:

Does TX-SR608 6Ohm/4Ohm speakers? The rest (5) of my Infinity speakers are of 8 Ohms impudence. Is mixing speakers w/ different impedance create problem?


Thanks for your help.
post #4135 of 5217
Hi,

I recently purchased Onkyo TX-SR608 and really like it.

I have one concern. Even after I power off (press power button to turn off) the receiver (so now it's in standby mode), it remains warm at touch even after 5-7 hours. As far as I know, there is NO power OFF button that cuts of power completely.

Questions:

Do you note that same w/ your TX-SR608?

Is this normal or some type of defect with the unit?

I don't understand why it does not have COMPLETE power off switch so that it does not continuously use electricity.

Pulling the receiver power cord off my Monster surge protector every time after using receiver is not an option.

Please advise.

Thanks very much.
post #4136 of 5217
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Originally Posted by darthpibe View Post

Hi i have a little problem with the receiver so far. the problem is when i turn off the receiver and goes to standby mode and im watching a movie on the ps3 with 5.1 audio in the tv i cant hear the voices, is like the amp is still decoding at 5.1 channel, i don't have any problems with the xbox 360 at all if i turn off the amp with the xbox i can still hear the voices in the movie, its only a ps3 problem, the ps3 is connected via hdmi, thanks in advance for the help.

Im not sure how it works but it could be the case that since you have the ps3 set to output 5.1 and turn the receiver on, the tv is just picking up the left and right speaker channels and not the center. I dont know if the receiver is supposed to downsample 5.1 signals to 2ch if its in standby, I guess it just passes the signal through, so if your tv doesnt support the 5.1 input, bit depth and frequency via hdmi it probably wont work.

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Originally Posted by carageuw View Post

I've got my 608 for about a week and now I am seriously considering whether I should return it and trade up for a Pioneer 1120K.
I am sure there are probably people who find it really useful to manually set the listening modes everytime they play something.
However, since my entertainment system primarily consists of a PC at the moment, this makes things very interesting.
A lot of times, I do not hear audio at all.
For instance, I just watched a Bluray movie. It had no problem playing with the DTS Master HD sound track. I exited the movie, switched back to my browser and Youtube has no sound. It took me a while to figure out why there is no sound. The 608 LCD display says PCM MultiCH. Pressing TV/Movie on the remote, switched the format to All Channel Stereo then I get some sound. OK, I do not understand why Youtube does not work with PCM MultiCH. But it is rather annoying that this would happen. And this is not the first time such weird annoyances have occurred.
It also happens after playing a game then try to listen to an MP3 afterwards.
I would need to come and press the Music listening mode to get my sound back.
Is there an "intelligent" or "auto" function somewhere that would automatically figure out what do when it detects the audio stream regardless of the format?
My previous Onkyo HTX-22HDX and 22HD never had issues like these that I could recall of. So if the lower-end HTIB units could do it, what am I doing wrong or why does the 608 not have this capability?
Any help is appreciated before I decide to return/replace the 608.

How are you outputting audio via the HTPC? What device is set as the default sound device and what device have you got set to use in the game and movie player you used?
What are the drivers of the device set too? Some drivers let you select input type, not just output.

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Originally Posted by Stryker412 View Post

My one input has an issue. I noticed on some dark scenes I would get actual white noise/artifacting. When I switched the HDMI cable back to just my TV instead of going through the AVR, it was fine. Looks like I have a bad input.

Test another HDMI cable first, then test another socket on both the receiver and then the tv to see if it makes a difference. Also turn video processing off if you can, as a test.

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Originally Posted by pfp View Post

I was planning to purchase this receiver before hearing about this issue and now I'm second guessing this decision. I don't necessarily like giving up the nice on screen display but I suppose that's not a deal killer in itself. The big question for me is this: Does this "fix" stick or do you have to enable it every time you turn the machine on / switch inputs / whatever?

You dont have to keep turning it off, it remembers til you turn it back on again. I think theres an alternative fix at the begining of this thread you should look at.

Quote:
Originally Posted by nkt38238 View Post

Hi,

I use Onkyo TX-SR608 receiver. I am considering to upgrade my 5.1 speaker system to 7.1. I plan to add 2 side surround speakers and for that, I am considering PBS Speakers model Image S50:

http://www.psbspeakers.com/products/...product_detail

However, reading it's spec, it states that it has impedance of :

Nominal 6 Ohms
Minimum 4 Ohms

Question:

Does TX-SR608 6Ohm/4Ohm speakers? The rest (5) of my Infinity speakers are of 8 Ohms impudence. Is mixing speakers w/ different impedance create problem?


Thanks for your help.

It supports 8,6 and 4 ohm speakers, but you have to choose between them on the receiver. You could mix and match those speakers and set the receiver on 4ohms. But by doing this, your amp would be putting a lot more power in to your existing 8ohm speakers than needed, so you may find volume differences with your 8ohm speakers being louder than your others. You also run the risk of blowing your 8ohm speakers with high volumes, since your amp will be pumping a higher current in to them. Eq can help correct the volume difference, but I would advise matching ohms speakers if you can

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Originally Posted by nkt38238 View Post

Hi,

I recently purchased Onkyo TX-SR608 and really like it.

I have one concern. Even after I power off (press power button to turn off) the receiver (so now it's in standby mode), it remains warm at touch even after 5-7 hours. As far as I know, there is NO power OFF button that cuts of power completely.

Questions:

Do you note that same w/ your TX-SR608?

Is this normal or some type of defect with the unit?

I don't understand why it does not have COMPLETE power off switch so that it does not continuously use electricity.

Pulling the receiver power cord off my Monster surge protector every time after using receiver is not an option.

Please advise.

Thanks very much.

Is there not a switch at the back to turn off the power?

The power supply is actually inside the amp and since power runs through it in standby, this is normal.

Read the manual and make sure there is enough room either side of the amp as advised, it needs a lot of ventilation and im sure many units have broken due to overheating.

You could also invest in a remote control power plug, they arent too expensive.


....argh so many questions!
post #4137 of 5217
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Originally Posted by acquisition09 View Post

Appears there is a firmware update floating around. Update is done through an optical connection. Check this thread:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...7#post19796347

Remember, this update seems to only address the Direct TV input and only seems to apply to the North American version. Its also not an official update, so not really work the risk bricking your receiver.

I wouldn't install this if:

1- You have a differnet problem other than Direct TV.

2- You dont have a north american model.
post #4138 of 5217
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Originally Posted by Dodgexander View Post


Remember, this update seems to only address the Direct TV input and only seems to apply to the North American version. Its also not an official update, so not really work the risk bricking your receiver.

I wouldn't install this if:

1- You have a differnet problem other than Direct TV.

2- You dont have a north american model.

I think it is an official update they give to service technicians. There is a technician manual in the zip file. My understanding is Onkyo doesn't publish updates for this model on their website because of the relatively complex steps you have to take to apply the update.
post #4139 of 5217
Hey all,

I currently have a Pioneer VSX-1020-K and I really would like the ability to listen to music from an analog source while playing my xbox through hdmi. Currently I am switching the hdmi cable from the receiver to the TV so I can get around this, but then when I want to use Dolby Digital from the xbox I need to move it back (pretty cumbersome).

Is it possible with the 608 or another Onkyo receiver to achieve this without shifting wires around? Are there any analog inputs in the "Audio Selector" menu options for is it only digital?

Thanks for your help!

Kevin
post #4140 of 5217
Dodgexander wrote:
>Read the manual and make sure there is enough room either side of the amp as advised, >>it needs a lot of ventilation and im sure many units have broken due to overheating.

>You could also invest in a remote control power plug, they arent too expensive.

Well, my TX-SR608 is hooked upto Monster PowerCenter and I can turn off one of the Monster switches off and it cuts the power to TX-SR608. The question is, is shutting TX-SR608 on/off like this (essentially analogous to pulling the power cord) on regular basis safe? Or the unit is designed to stay in STANDBY mode all the time while not in use?

It also makes me wonder how much electricity it wastes in staying in standby modeall the time for whatever reason (?).


btw, thanks for the info on mix/match of speakers of different impedance. I think I better find another Diapole/Bipole w/ 8 Ohm for 2 my side surrounds. Any suggestions on speakers?

Thanks!
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