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post #4831 of 5274
yeah, the clicking sound is bit annoying.

Does switching sounds fields often somehow damage the receiver in any way over the period of time (e.g. any mechanical part wearing out over the time)?

I wonder what makes that clicking sounds in receiver (?). Thanks.
post #4832 of 5274
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Originally Posted by mgkdragn View Post

What is it supposed to do .. ?? You're kidding, right .. ?? That's a book within itself .. I have 2 PS3's and have never had any issue with lip sync and the 608 ..

Of course I am not asking about the computational algorithms for the image processing rather regarding the upscaling (if any) involved for SD signals. I haven't had the chance to hook up the Wii but was wondering if the AVR is going to improve the quality of the video signal or not, and whether the video processing being off will have any affect on it.

It is great that you haven't experienced any such issue that doesn't negate the fact I am experiencing it.
post #4833 of 5274
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Originally Posted by nkt38238 View Post

yeah, the clicking sound is bit annoying.

Does switching sounds fields often somehow damage the receiver in any way over the period of time (e.g. any mechanical part wearing out over the time)?

I wonder what makes that clicking sounds in receiver (?). Thanks.

As I have posted before the TX-SR608 and related models have a whole suite of relays inside. These are good for thousands of switching cycles, probably millions for the ones that are switched at no load, hence you don't have to worry about them wearing out.

You have the speaker protection relays, each is DPST and they are: 1 for center, 1 for front L/R, 1 for surround side L/R, 1 for surround back L/R, and 1 for zone 2 L/R

The center and surround side relays are switched at the same time by the same control circuit.

Each is only enabled when needed IE when listening in plain stereo the relays for all 5 other channels drop out thus disconnecting the speakers completely from the output stage which eliminates any chance of pops, hiss, crosstalk, etc being heard from the inactive speakers. This is why you hear clicks when changing listening modes and inputs, I have all inputs set to a Pro Logic 7.1 mode of some kind, hence I almost never hear the clicks.

You have the main power relay.

And last but not least you have the one I love, the rail voltage switching relays, these as the name implies control which tap on the main power transformer is supplying the symmetrical voltage rails for the output stage. This halves the power consumption and hence temperature of the output transistors (all 14 of them) You may notice that when you have the volume low for about 10 minutes a single click is heard, this is it switching from high to low. If you then slowly crank up the volume at some point you will hear another click, this is it switching back to high.

Idle power consumption is dependant on heatsink temperature (look up thermal runaway) and is about 80-120 watts in high mode and half that in low mode.
post #4834 of 5274
Hi

I have the 608 connected to the Definitive Technology Soundbar SSA-42. As instructed I am not using Audyssey to set up but doing it manually. I noticed that I cannot select none after I have selected the front, center and surround. (page 41 of the manual) What should I select? Zone 2/front wide/front high and then next selection is either Surr back/front wide/front high or doesn't it matter what I enter? Unlike my Denon 4810 I can specify manually the number of speaker set up but I don't see this function in the Onkyo 608.

Thanks
post #4835 of 5274
Is there a way to turn off video output when Tuner is selected?

I have my 608 connected to a computer monitor via HDMI, and when I listen to radio, the monitor wakes up from sleep and shows blue screen which can't be good for its longevity. There's no remote for it as it's a plain computer monitor.
post #4836 of 5274
i have the 608, as well, with LG42LD550 and a BD570 with my amd 5780. I have learned from multiple audyssey attempts that i have to select the front high or wide in the proper sequence to make the speakers i want to work. i didnt see any option for surround side but i get them lit up on the config screen if i pick the back surround option even though i dont want them. it all worked out fine. if i picked the 'front high' first they didnt work out properly.
i followed the set up pattern on the back terminals so they were correct.
i have stumbled on many of the things i needed to do to make them work properly, in some balance, that is. it has only taken me 11months and that is with help from these forums, and others. plus reading the print off the manual. it is more dog eared than any other book or manual i currently own.
post #4837 of 5274
Was hoping someone here could help me. I have the SR608 with a PS3, and I run downloaded YT videos using TVersity.

The strange thing is, everything was going fine until recently when I'm watching a video and it all of a sudden makes a scratchy, popping noise from the Center speaker. This would result in sound from the center speaker sounding very scratchy. It would usually last temporarily. And later, it would do it again, except instead of just getting a little scratchy sound there would be a PERMANENT hissing from the center speaker, that would play at the same volume regardless of input and volume level. I read that this was due to one of the amps on the receiver being blown out or something ??? (yeah total n00b here)

I was just going to call Onkyo to send it in (thankfully, it's still under warranty), when I was playing videos again, I heard that same scratchy pop, and everything's been fine again.

Is it some kind of weird glitch (I have it setup to automatically encode DTS/DD for movies and use THX Cinema for everything else)? Should I still send it in? Any help would be appreciated.
post #4838 of 5274
title says it all...

"PCM" is displayed on the receiver, which according to the instruction manual is the 'Audio input indicators'...but I can't find any other reference to it.

And now that it's displayed, the sound keeps cutting out for about a second intermittently.

I don't know how to stop it...

can anyone help?
post #4839 of 5274
question for all those in here...

i have a 608 and today i was watching tv and everything was fine. i went outside for 10 minutes and came back in( i had left everything on) and the tv was off and the hdmi indicator on the front of the 608 was flashing. after that i could not get my tv to turn back on(a less than 2 yr. old samsung lcd). i turned everything off and messed with it for a bit and tried to get the tv to come back on. i never could get it to come back on. everything else(608, my dvr and dvd player) were working though.

so, i went and bought a new tv today and hooked it up. it's been on for about 3 or 4 hours and i'm watching it now and in the middle of a movie the 608 made a clicking noise(sounded more like a pop than a click) and the tv turned off. i was like WTF did this just happen again? but i turned the tv back on and it's working ok.

my questions are...

1 - has anyone else had a similar thing happen?
2 - am i being crazy thinking that my 608 killed my tv?(it's hooked via hdmi from my dvr to the receiver and then to the tv) i know this isn't logical...

thanks.
post #4840 of 5274
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Originally Posted by sweetdickwillie View Post

question for all those in here...

i have a 608 and today i was watching tv and everything was fine. i went outside for 10 minutes and came back in( i had left everything on) and the tv was off and the hdmi indicator on the front of the 608 was flashing. after that i could not get my tv to turn back on(a less than 2 yr. old samsung lcd). i turned everything off and messed with it for a bit and tried to get the tv to come back on. i never could get it to come back on. everything else(608, my dvr and dvd player) were working though.

so, i went and bought a new tv today and hooked it up. it's been on for about 3 or 4 hours and i'm watching it now and in the middle of a movie the 608 made a clicking noise(sounded more like a pop than a click) and the tv turned off. i was like WTF did this just happen again? but i turned the tv back on and it's working ok.

my questions are...

1 - has anyone else had a similar thing happen?
2 - am i being crazy thinking that my 608 killed my tv?(it's hooked via hdmi from my dvr to the receiver and then to the tv) i know this isn't logical...

thanks.

Did yu turn on the samsung without onkyo connected ?
post #4841 of 5274
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Originally Posted by srjune1101 View Post

Did yu turn on the samsung without onkyo connected ?

yes. isolated just the tv and ran coax into it. still won't do anything but flash the power light 3 times and then pause. 3 times and then pause.
post #4842 of 5274
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Originally Posted by urBan_dK View Post

Hi, new member here. I read this entire thread when I was shopping for a receiver and ended up purchasing a 608.

I just picked up an Acer H5360 DLP projector and for some reason it is not playing nicely when I'm using my PC as an input to the Onkyo. All the video is detected and configured correctly but I am never able to get sound from the Onkyo to my surround system when the PC is the input and projector the output. Note that with my TV as the output I have no problems (using surround speakers as well, TV out off on the AVR in both cases).

I believe it is some sort of HDMI handshaking issue, since as soon as my projector is off the audio will again come through the surround system via the Onkyo.

The audio is being output from my PC video card HDMI in 7.1 PCM format.

Thanks for any suggestions.

I would love a solution as well. I spent days trying to fix my issue from within Windows (macbook pro booting into Win7 64) until last night when I decided to try opt1 on other inputs and when selecting those sources the audio was perfectly fine but setting the OPT1 back to PC and...silence... What is more irritating is that a "simple" unplug/replug of the HDMI cable from the receiver gets me sound so there is definitely some sort of HDMI handshake that is screwing with the optical but why doesn't the power-off (standby) fix it. Maybe its because I'm going DVI to HDMI I don't know but I do know it is irritating as hell...
post #4843 of 5274
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Originally Posted by sweetdickwillie View Post

question for all those in here...

i have a 608 and today i was watching tv and everything was fine. i went outside for 10 minutes and came back in( i had left everything on) and the tv was off and the hdmi indicator on the front of the 608 was flashing. after that i could not get my tv to turn back on(a less than 2 yr. old samsung lcd). i turned everything off and messed with it for a bit and tried to get the tv to come back on. i never could get it to come back on. everything else(608, my dvr and dvd player) were working though.

so, i went and bought a new tv today and hooked it up. it's been on for about 3 or 4 hours and i'm watching it now and in the middle of a movie the 608 made a clicking noise(sounded more like a pop than a click) and the tv turned off. i was like WTF did this just happen again? but i turned the tv back on and it's working ok.

my questions are...

1 - has anyone else had a similar thing happen?
2 - am i being crazy thinking that my 608 killed my tv?(it's hooked via hdmi from my dvr to the receiver and then to the tv) i know this isn't logical...

thanks.

bump for my issue. anyone?
post #4844 of 5274
I'll give this a shot.

I've had the HDMI indicator flashing issue. In my case, it's caused by my Comcast HD DVR - and I've had it happen with both my old HK and Yamaha receivers. It's only happened once on my 608, and resetting it took care of it.

Bad capacitors probably took out your Samsung (Google that when you get a chance). The Samsung/608 probably couldn't establish a proper HDMI connection so you got the flashing error on the receiver.
post #4845 of 5274
Guys my receiver was working fine last 3 months. All of a sudden its not displaying hdmi outputs. I have 3 hdmi inputs running to the receiver and 1 hdmi output to Projector. No output is coming. Sound is working if i use coaxial cable. I even reset the receiver to factory settings. But still no video. Is this the hdmi handshaking issue ? Should i take the osd off ?
post #4846 of 5274
Provided that all your connections (both physical and configurationwise) are correct and you've tried getting audio via HDMI from other sources say, a dvd player or your cable box, via hdmi and both fail, then my guess is that your hdmi port(s) might be fried. How's the ventilation?
post #4847 of 5274
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Originally Posted by MarlinFan View Post

Provided that all your connections (both physical and configurationwise) are correct and you've tried getting audio via HDMI from other sources say, a dvd player or your cable box, via hdmi and both fail, then my guess is that your hdmi port(s) might be fried. How's the ventilation?

Thx for responding to my post. Connections r fine. No audio or video via Hdmi. The receiver is on the top open shelf of a media cabinet which is 6 * 4 ft. So ventilation is not an issue. So if the hdmi ports r fried how does onkyo take care of it under warranty ? Thx guys.
post #4848 of 5274
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Originally Posted by srjune1101 View Post

Thx for responding to my post. Connections r fine. No audio or video via Hdmi. The receiver is on the top open shelf of a media cabinet which is 6 * 4 ft. So ventilation is not an issue. So if the hdmi ports r fried how does onkyo take care of it under warranty ? Thx guys.

If I'm you, my first call on Tuesday morning is to Onkyo (http://www.us.onkyo.com/customer_support.cfm). If you bought your unit new from an authorized dealer, you get 2 years on parts and labor, per the warranty section on the website. You may have to mail it in, unless there's an authorized repair center near you.
post #4849 of 5274
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Originally Posted by MarlinFan View Post


If I'm you, my first call on Tuesday morning is to Onkyo (http://www.us.onkyo.com/customer_support.cfm). If you bought your unit new from an authorized dealer, you get 2 years on parts and labor, per the warranty section on the website. You may have to mail it in, unless there's an authorized repair center near you.

Thats the plan. Lets see what they say. I have been an Onkyo fan for the past 5 years. But this model is a fail. Giving me problems from the beginning. I knew when i bought it. Hoped i wud get a good unit. But no luck. Thx for yr replies anyway.
post #4850 of 5274
not good to hear bro. i've had no troubles with my 608, and i had been using a cambridge audio 640r before this, which is quite a nice powerful receiver and don't find it any different, just more options that the cambridge audio was lacking and at a much cheaper price as well.
post #4851 of 5274
i bought 608 from 2 month and they are wrote in manual you must leave 40 cm up the unit to allow the hot air come out. but i sow some photos here with out a 40 cm up the unit, are that did not make a problem to the unit or what.
post #4852 of 5274
Has anyone had their 608 flip out and make incredibly loud sounds thru the speakers? The other day my son was playing a game on the PS3 and suddenly a super loud pulsating sound was coming out of the rear surround speakers at what sounded like full volume. It scared the crap out of him! It did something similar a few months ago. Both times after powering down and back up everything was normal. I'm thinking maybe my unit is bad.
post #4853 of 5274
I had a flickering issue right out of the box with this receiver back in March. I replaced the cables with better ones and it went away. Now it's back.

Here is a link to the YouTube Video that I took back when it started in March: http://youtu.be/NB1p4XwpYQ4;

Any thoughts?

It happens across all of my devices and inputs that are hooked up through HDMI, though not all of the time, only when I REALLY want to watch a movie or something =)


It definitely seems to be coming from the receiver as it will continue to flicker at a blue screen if I then turn off the device (PS3 or Xbox etc).

What often happens is I will fire up my Ps3 for example, no problems. But then when I go to watch a movie, it will change input resolutions and start the flicker. Then when I go back to the menu it will continue to flicker. And then continue to flicker when I turn off the device. If I then try to watch the movie on the Xbox, the flicker will continue over there, OR will cause the Xbox to not initiate correctly because it can't get a good video connection.

Even if turn the Receiver off and then back on, the flicker continues.

Originally I was using the cheapest Monoprice HDMI cables, but now I am using the "10ft 24AWG CL2 High Speed HDMI Cable w/ Net Jacket - Black" also from Monoprice. Most places I read say that the Monoprice cables are fine over short distances so I didn't think that they were causing the problem.

Very frustrating.

Is it a setting somewhere that I'm missing? I'm fairly technical but not a big audiophile so I'm fairly new at this.

Everything goes in HDMI and out HDMI to the TV. I do leave my receiver on all of the time if that makes a difference, but then again it did it right out of the box as well.

Thanks in advance for your thoughts and input.
I really appreciate those of you who hang around these forums and answer questions for people like me who only stumble in when we have a problem =)
post #4854 of 5274
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Originally Posted by Rubbercarp View Post

I had a flickering issue right out of the box with this receiver back in March. I replaced the cables with better ones and it went away. Now it's back.

Here is a link to the YouTube Video that I took back when it started in March: http://youtu.be/NB1p4XwpYQ4;

Any thoughts?

It happens across all of my devices and inputs that are hooked up through HDMI, though not all of the time, only when I REALLY want to watch a movie or something =)

It definitely seems to be coming from the receiver as it will continue to flicker at a blue screen if I then turn off the device (PS3 or Xbox etc).

What often happens is I will fire up my Ps3 for example, no problems. But then when I go to watch a movie, it will change input resolutions and start the flicker. Then when I go back to the menu it will continue to flicker. And then continue to flicker when I turn off the device. If I then try to watch the movie on the Xbox, the flicker will continue over there, OR will cause the Xbox to not initiate correctly because it can't get a good video connection.

Even if turn the Receiver off and then back on, the flicker continues.

Originally I was using the cheapest Monoprice HDMI cables, but now I am using the "10ft 24AWG CL2 High Speed HDMI Cable w/ Net Jacket - Black" also from Monoprice. Most places I read say that the Monoprice cables are fine over short distances so I didn't think that they were causing the problem.

Very frustrating.

Is it a setting somewhere that I'm missing? I'm fairly technical but not a big audiophile so I'm fairly new at this.

Everything goes in HDMI and out HDMI to the TV. I do leave my receiver on all of the time if that makes a difference, but then again it did it right out of the box as well.

Thanks in advance for your thoughts and input.
I really appreciate those of you who hang around these forums and answer questions for people like me who only stumble in when we have a problem =)

It did the samething for me and after a week it finally blew up. None of the hdmi stuff work. Spoke to onkyo support and taking it to the service center today. I regret buying this pos.
post #4855 of 5274
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Originally Posted by halo0 View Post

Has anyone had their 608 flip out and make incredibly loud sounds thru the speakers? The other day my son was playing a game on the PS3 and suddenly a super loud pulsating sound was coming out of the rear surround speakers at what sounded like full volume. It scared the crap out of him! It did something similar a few months ago. Both times after powering down and back up everything was normal. I'm thinking maybe my unit is bad.

It didnt do exactly like yours , but it blew my woofer on the floor standing speaker one day. The sound was only like 65-70.
post #4856 of 5274
WTF! What did Onkyo have to say about that?
post #4857 of 5274
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Originally Posted by srjune1101 View Post

Thats the plan. Lets see what they say. I have been an Onkyo fan for the past 5 years. But this model is a fail. Giving me problems from the beginning. I knew when i bought it. Hoped i wud get a good unit. But no luck. Thx for yr replies anyway.

Good luck!
post #4858 of 5274
Hello gents!

I am looking to get one of these amps in the coming months and was wondering how simple it is to set up!? I will only be using it for 2.1 as I don't have the space for full surround sound!

Any advise is welcome, this will be my first ever AV receiver!

Allan
post #4859 of 5274
I've got the UP-A1 iPod dock hooked up and was wondering if there's any way to use its audio signal but instead of displaying just the ipod menu/now playing, could I display another one of my video inputs? I'd like to play music in the background of say a sporting event from my cable box input. Is there a way to do that?
post #4860 of 5274
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Originally Posted by srjune1101 View Post

Guys my receiver was working fine last 3 months. All of a sudden its not displaying hdmi outputs. I have 3 hdmi inputs running to the receiver and 1 hdmi output to Projector. No output is coming. Sound is working if i use coaxial cable. I even reset the receiver to factory settings. But still no video. Is this the hdmi handshaking issue ? Should i take the osd off ?

Just dropped the receiver off to the local service center and the lady was like one more Onkyo 608. They say it will take 2-4 weeks to fix it. This is driving me nuts. Once repaired, i will try to offload this pos in CL or ebay and jump on a denon or pioneer. For people who are on the fence, please DONT BUY THIS.
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