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post #5131 of 5274
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Originally Posted by danielthechskid View Post

OK I have to wonder how many people that have had an HDMI board fail also have "high-power standby" enabled.

Remember that when HDMI-CEC (RI-HD) is enabled the 608 leaves the main power transformer powered in standby so that the HDMI board is powered, but this also makes the standby power usage around 30 watts instead of just a few watts. I have a feeling that this is cooking the HDMI boards. I have HDMI-CEC disabled on mine.

Is this enabled or disabled by default?
post #5132 of 5274
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Originally Posted by Eryeal View Post

Is this enabled or disabled by default?

If I understand what setting he is talking about, mine was off by default. I had to turn it on so I could run my HDMI signal thru my receiver in order for it to be viewable on my TV with the receiver off.

If I'm misunderstanding the setting in question here, please correct me.

Thanks,
Jason
post #5133 of 5274
I think he's talking about "HDMI Control" which is off by default.

Edit: It seems he means "Power Control" which is off by default unless you turn HDMI Control on, at which point it turns Power Control on as well.

You will find the setting in the Hardware Setup of the main menu.
post #5134 of 5274
Hello, has anyone tried using both front wide and front high(via the zone 2 terminal)? I've re read the manual so many times and it's still unclear. I really want to try audyssey DSX with wides for sure and then add heights before surrounds.
post #5135 of 5274
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Originally Posted by boardinguy100 View Post

Hello, has anyone tried using both front wide and front high(via the zone 2 terminal)? I've re read the manual so many times and it's still unclear. I really want to try audyssey DSX with wides for sure and then add heights before surrounds.

The high speakers don't make much difference at all. But the wide make a huge difference it really increases the sound stage. What you read say's to use the same speakers as your mains it's not true. I'm running Klipsch F3's for my mains and my wide speakers are Klipsch quintet 3's and they sound great. I would like to have some speakers that would play a little lower but I already had the Quintets. Do it and you will love it for music and movies.
post #5136 of 5274
Thanks, I decided on definitely going with the wides, but I'm not sure if I can use fronts as well. The manual says that you can use zone 2 for that. I will was wondering if anyone has tried it.,
post #5137 of 5274
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Originally Posted by boardinguy100 View Post

Thanks, I decided on definitely going with the wides, but I'm not sure if I can use fronts as well. The manual says that you can use zone 2 for that. I will was wondering if anyone has tried it.,

You have to use the zone2 for the wide speakers. You set it in the configuration so you can no longer use the zone2 for another area. The front connections don't change.
post #5138 of 5274
Oops, I meant I'm using wide for sure and was interested in using High speakers via the zone 2 connection as this only allows for either wide or high setup. I'm interested in trying it this way vs using wide and rear surrounds. Thanks.
post #5139 of 5274
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Originally Posted by boardinguy100 View Post

Oops, I meant I'm using wide for sure and was interested in using High speakers via the zone 2 connection as this only allows for either wide or high setup. I'm interested in trying it this way vs using wide and rear surrounds. Thanks.

You can do high or wide you can't do both at the same time. I looked into it before I set mine up and the high doesn't make much difference. It has to do with your hearing perception of how high a sound is is not very good which is why you can put a center channel speaker above or below a screen and you can't tell the difference. But your perception of width is very good. You can try both but bo the high first because you will keep the wide after you try it.
post #5140 of 5274
Thanks LarryU that's exactly what I needed to know before I spent time mounting high speakers. I will just go with wides and rears.
post #5141 of 5274
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Originally Posted by jonnythan View Post

I think he's talking about "HDMI Control" which is off by default.

Edit: It seems he means "Power Control" which is off by default unless you turn HDMI Control on, at which point it turns Power Control on as well.

You will find the setting in the Hardware Setup of the main menu.

This is exactly the setting I am talking about, enable all of these then measure the standby draw with a Kill-A-Watt meter.

I am considering adding northbridge chip heatsinks to the HDMI board chips on mine, but I also leave these settings off /disabled as i personally would never use HDMI passthrough anyway, if I have audio going I'm not using the TV's built-in speakers, and never will. On my old mono 19" Magnavox CRT set I had a nice set of IBM 2.1 computer speakers hooked up. I don't care if it were only The Weather Channel, (I don't have a pay TV provider, OTA, disc, and streaming only here.) the AVR is on too.
post #5142 of 5274
Super frustrating problem here. I recently moved to a new house and don't have any surround sound speakers to connect to the TX-SR608 (they were built in to the walls of my old house), so I've been trying to use the receiver as an HDMI hub for all my components to connect to while using my TV speakers for audio. But I cannot for the life of me get sound, only picture.

"Audio TV Out" is set to On. I've tried every combination of settings under HDMI Control on or off with no luck. My TV Speakers are on and working because I have my cable box plugged in directly to the TV and sound works fine.

One weird thing is that whenever I switch to the input that my Apple TV is connected to for example (CBL/SAT) the display on the TX-SR608 flashes "TV speakers off". Why would it do this if "Audio TV Out" is set to ON and my TV Speakers are set to ON?

I have reset both receiver and TV to default settings and no luck. Anybody have an ideas?
post #5143 of 5274
great tip about the hdmi control standby possibly being the culprit of the board failures.

I have now permanently disabled mine!
post #5144 of 5274
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Originally Posted by LarryU View Post

The high speakers don't make much difference at all. But the wide make a huge difference it really increases the sound stage. What you read say's to use the same speakers as your mains it's not true. I'm running Klipsch F3's for my mains and my wide speakers are Klipsch quintet 3's and they sound great. I would like to have some speakers that would play a little lower but I already had the Quintets. Do it and you will love it for music and movies.

The front high really works for me well, the key is to not use the DSX mode but the PLIIz Height mode. Also I prefer the +3db gain setting in the advanced menu for the front high. They really come to life that way.

However, I did try the wide setup too as I was experimenting, and the wides do sound better and make more sense to my ears in a surround setup, but I'm only using the high right now because of my room limitations.
post #5145 of 5274
Could anyone with the 608 help me confirm this is happening with all 608's?

and post here: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1412892

Play a 2.1 song over hdmi, then cycle between stereo, PLIIzHeight and DSX Height mode, and tell me if the bass output seems higher from the front speakers while in DSX mode compared to PLIIZHeight.

Thank you.
post #5146 of 5274
While doing some subwoofer sweeps with REW I measured the different listening modes and this is what the results where. The comparison is at 50Hz but the difference carried through the whole sweep.
DSX = 93db
THX = 90db
Stereo = 89db
NEO6 = 89db
PL II = 85db
So your ears are correct there is a difference.
Larry
post #5147 of 5274
Very interesting!! Thanks for taking the time to do that.
post #5148 of 5274
I just got my 608 today. This may be a dumb question, but does it matter which HDMI port I plug my components into? For instance, will it make any difference if I plug my Tivo into HDMI 1, which is labeled BD/DVD? And if so, does this mean I need to plug my Popcorn Hour media player into the HDMI Aux port, since there is no assigned media player port? Thanks!
post #5149 of 5274
You can plug a hdmi into any connection. You can also change the label that is displayed for each input.
post #5150 of 5274
I recently played an .avi file that ended up having a corrupt soundtrack. During playback, a very loud screech was heard and my Onkyo TX-SR608 receiver turned itset off. I turned it back on just fine, and have been using it since with no problem, or so I thought.

Before this event, when the unit was in standby mode, both the standby light (can't remember the colour it used to be) and the HDMI thru lights were on, and my TV recognized the AV receiver (when in this standby mode) such that I could use the attached components (eg. TIVO) via the receiver and watch them on the TV even though the receiver was in standby mode.

After this event, when the AV receiver is in what I would normally call standby, the standby light is off, the HDMI thru light is still on, but my TV no longer recognizes that the AV receiver is connected, and thus I can't watch the TIVO etc. via the receiver. If I turn on the receiver, everything works fine again.

This is so annoying as I normally didn't use the receiver and my sound system just to watch day-to-day tv, and it was great having all my peripherals like TIVO connected to the receiver and a single HDMI from the receiver to the tv which connected the tv to every other component.

Can anyone tell me (please!) how to get the standby light back on and the standby set-up back to what it used to be? I tried the fix for the protection circuit having been activated as on page 66 of the manual, but this hasn't helped. In addition, the standby light has never flashed red, as is apparently supposed to signal the protection circuit having been activated. The only red signal I see in the standby light is when the remote buttons are pressed to signal I'm using the remote. I can't actually remember if this was the normal response to pressing the buttons on the remote before this drama occurred - is it the normal response to the remote buttons being pressed?

Thanks for any and all help everyone!
Cheers
Callum
post #5151 of 5274
Anyone know how to stop THX modes from forcing Re-EQ on, instead of not remembering me turning it off, upon every power on?
post #5152 of 5274
I’m going to take a shot in the dark and say to try turning it off in set up. If you turn it off in the Audio area doesn’t stay, it resets to the settings in the set up menu when the AVR is turned off. Just a guess I don’t use the THX setting much.
post #5153 of 5274
So, can anyone tell me, when you disable the OSD via holding the VCR and the Return button on the front of the unit, does it completely disables the Faroudja DCDI processor, or simply just the OSD?

Meaning, if I still enable the video settings in the advanced menu, will it still be processed by the Faroudja engine, or is it completely disabled?
Or do you have to set the video mode to through and game mode to "on" to disable that?
post #5154 of 5274
I have a very strange issue that I noticed only recently. (i have had the receiver for 2 years). In my SR608, only one HDMI port works (and it works great for all purpose, HD audio, 3D blurays etc), which is CBL/SAT, none of the other 5 HDMI ports work. What I mean is, that I get HDMI sound and video when I connect my PS3 or HTPC through only CBL/SAT connector, for all the other connectors, the receiver is not detected by neither PC nor PS3 and hence a blue screen from the projector. Can anyone help me figure out what I am doing wrong? I just noticed it because now I have a need to connect a 2nd device (PS3). I can't tell if it was like it from very beginning when I got the receiver as I never had to use any other ports. This happens even after a factory reset and starting from scratch

My setup: Source HTPC with Core i3 2100 onboard display (now I need to add PS3 FAT as well)
Receiver: TX SR-608
Projector: Epson 3010
Never used HDMI passthrough,

Thanks in advance
post #5155 of 5274
vj, In the options of the AVR you can choose what HDMI inputs work for individual sources, there's a possibility they are all disabled, check in there and see, if not, sounds like you have a bad HDMI board.

You can also backup your current AVR settings by holding setup and enter, not sure exactly, on the front of the AVR, it will ask to store settings then hit enter . Then do a reset of the AVR by holding VCR and return.

That way you can see if at default settings it works, because it should, if not you can restore your settings with setup and return 2x.
Edited by porschedrifter - 8/19/12 at 2:25pm
post #5156 of 5274
I just started having an issue where sound is only coming out of my right front speaker. I checked the speaker wire and each one is screwed in, no wires are touching each other on the posts, and the receiver powers on, but even doing a test, only the right front speaker makes a white noise test sound. I don't have any extra speakers laying around to test out if my speakers all blew. How else could I check to see if it's the receiver or speakers that's my problem? Thanks.
post #5157 of 5274
Hdking, it's very unlikely entire multiple speakers have died on you, usually only a single driver will fail at a time.

I would do a factory reset of your AVR but be prepared to the fact that your AVR just went.
post #5158 of 5274
Factory Reset fixed it.
post #5159 of 5274
Always a good thing, glad to hear.
post #5160 of 5274
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Originally Posted by mtrot View Post


It's been running all day, and doesn't seem to be any hotter than it was after an hour. I guess time will tell.

Okay, well I guess time has told, and something has gone awry with this 608, just after the warranty expiration. All I get is the dreaded blue screen on the HDMI inputs for the Blu-ray player and the cable box. Those are the only HDMI inputs in use. I did confirm that if I connect those devices directly to the Panasonic plasma TV that both devices work perfectly. What is interesting is that the receiver's on-screen graphic user interface displays fine on the TV.

I went into the receiver setup and checked every setting I know how to, to no avail. As per a phone call to Onkyo technical support, I did a reset, which did not help. I was unable to check the settings on the Blu-ray player and the cable box since I cannot get them to show up on the TV. This setup worked perfectly when I first set it up back in 2010, and this is really a bummer since it sounded and looked so good when working right. Any ideas?
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