The "Official" Onkyo TX-SR608 Thread (No Price Talk) - Page 23

how many hdmi inputs do you have on the LG, did you try them all? I know my old HDTV could only do 1080p in particular HDMI inputs.. I would give it a try. Personally, yes,,,, i think he is full of S@#T!!! If for example, the onkyo receiver is pumping a 1080p signal @ 60hz, then what diff does it make if it's comiing from a DVR, PS3, PC video card blah blah blah... Would try both through and 1080p settings on the onkyo also.

Also, Hertz TV is it? 60, 120, 240???? I would check the TV's HZ settings and try different options if it's possible. I would go thru the TV's options also.


Elfy1234

I think its BS to. I will try the other inputs right now. I did go through the Tv's options and did not find any way to change the input to 1080p. WHat do you mean by "Would try both through and 1080p settings on the onkyo also.
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The TV is a 600hz Plasma.

Update: I tried all the HDMI inputs and i am still getting the Invalid Format window.

Yeah, on my 608 set to 1080p, hitting the display button twice and it says 1920 x 1080p 60 hz RGB 24 bit. You might try through or auto setting on the HDMI monitor setting (where you set it to 1080p).

I tried Auto and it came up with a blank screen and Through showed 720p. What ever. Im over it. Thanks for your help guys.

What are you trying to watch here? My Blu Ray player will put out 1080p, but my Uverse box will only put out 1080i. If I use the through setting, the 608 will put out whatever is fed into it.

You say it showed 720p on through, but what's the source?

I am trying to watch my HD Tivo. It puts out 1080i and i can watch that no problem. I just wanted the 608 to upconvert it to 1080p. The TV was on a 720p show at the time i looked at the video info on the 608. Im back to watching it at 1080i.

Got it.

Thanks for the response, pretty much what I needed to hear.

Is any one experiencing audio loss? I watched last nights Pacific part 8 that i had Tivoed and there were several instances when the audio cut out and i could hear a click from the receiver. This happen a few times yesterday while watching a movie on the DVD player.

The DVD player has a optical cable running the audio. I changed the optical cable to another one that i had just to make sure the cable wasnt bad. The audio loss stopped when i hooked up analog rca audio cables from the DVD player to the 608.

The Tivo HD is connected to the 608 by HDMI cable.

I am not getting any audio loss when i watch live TV.

Hello All

Need some suggestion on this .

I hooked Definitive Tech pro-cinema 60 (5.1 speaker system) with 608 and ran Audessey setup .

My speakers are setup with the following set up (method 1) as mentioned in the manual

From the manual ----

There are many different ways to wire your ProCinema 60 System to your home
theater surround receiver. In order to simplify this process, we will describe the two
most common methods. Method 1, which involves wiring your front left and right
ProMonitor 60s to your ProSub 60 and then wiring your ProSub 60 to your receiver, is
the preferred method in terms of sound quality it will give you the best blending
between the satellite speakers and the sub as well as the fullest, richest sound quality.

Method 2, which involves wiring the front left and right ProMonitor 60s directly to
your receiver and hooking your sub up with an RCA cable, uses less speaker wire and
still sounds good but clearly not as good as Method 1. We recommend Method 1, if
possible.

I used method 1 to setup the speakers with subwoofer .
When i ran the audessey setup , it recognized the speakers and showed the following speaker configuration in setup mode :

Subwoofer = No
Front = Full band
Center =150 Hz
Surround = 100 Hz
LPF of LFE = 120 Hz

I am not sure why it is showing subwoofer = NO ( is it becoz of this setup) . With this setup , i can experience the bass effect properly.
But when I go and manually change the speaker config , subwoofer = Yes , the bass sounds becomes less prominent/very low ( including the ones coming from center and front speakers)

Is this something wrong with this setup or do i need to change the config to utilize the 608 properly .

Can you suggest please.

Thanks
Z

With this setup audessey is seeing your front speakers and sub as one unit.
Thats why it sets subwoofer to no and the front to full band.

If you used method 2 then audessey would see your fronts and sub as seperate units.
It would then set the sub to yes and set a crossover freq for fronts.

You didn't say how you connected to the 608, but the 608 is not doing the base management and only sees full range speakers without a sub. You need to go with method 2 for the 608 to do the base management.
I think you will have a much better experience with method 2.

Badfish, does your LG do any upconverting? I tried to find out on LG's website, but it didn't have much info. Check your manual, and if it does, then just use Through on the 608 and have your tv upconvert it.

Has anyone played with CEC much? I was messing with it last night and it didn't seem logical.

When I turn the TV off the receiver goes off. Ok thats good, but when I turn the TV back on the receiver didn't come back on. Turning the receiver on and off has no effect on the TV.

Turning the blu-ray player on was even weirder -- the receiver didn't come on, but the TV did and the TV switched to a different hdmi input even though everything is connected through the single hdmi cable from the receiver.

Can anyone recommend some settings to get this to work in some logical way. Ideally I would like to never touch the TV remote, since all the sound is through the receiver and the TV only has the one input. I just need the TV to come on and off when I turn the receiver on an off.


Edit/update:
Played with it some more this morning. On my TV I set "TV Speakers: OFF", and now my TV remote changes the volume on the receiver. Its a step in the right direction, but still not able to eliminate a remote...

Got both of mine setup last night. I'm impressed, they are powerful and have a great sound. It's a little brighter than my 1007 I think, my wife agrees. But it sounds good in my much more open living room and also in my much smaller bedroom (than my theater.)

I tried all three of my subs in all three rooms, a BIC V1220, Bic V1020, and AudioSource PSW110. The PSW works best in the bedroom, the v1020 is actually better than the V1220 in the living room, that was a surprise.

I can certainly tell a difference between the 1007 MultiEQ XT and the 608's handling of the same subs, there are a few "bright" spots the 608 doesn't correct, but honestly I think I prefer it that way, I just may have to turn off the sub audessey on the 1007!

Now the one problem I have. I've got a netbook for streaming hulu and my other media in my bedroom. I wanted to use the VGA in to simplify things going to my Akai POS 32" LCD. When I do that I get severe overscan and it won't allow any of the 720 or 1080 resolutions without massively distorting. When I go into the vga on the TV it will only support 1024x768 (normal). I can get my other laptop with dvi to show at 720 and 1080 @ 60Hz directly to the hdmi on the TV so it appears to be the receiver. I went through all the options, obviously selecting through for video, and it just won't work right.

I also had to use an external sound blaster I had laying around as the audio out on the laptop starting crackling through the stereo AND netbook, like the audio didn't fully turn off when the 1/8" to RCA adapter was plugged in. I tried it on my 1007 and old Pioneer and this didn't happen. It's almost as if the onkyo rca in's have some sort of different electrical properties.

Anyone had good/bad luck with the VGA on these? If I can't get it fixed easily, I'll just get another PS3 to put in there. Best media server ever! Console games are for kids ;-)

after you select "yes" for subwoofer, double-check your speaker levels and raise db as necessary.

That won't work, he doesn't have the sub hooked up as a sub, he has it hooked to the front channels.


Zorro, Using method 1, the 608 doesn't "know" you have a sub since there is nothing hooked to the sub output (the RCA jack), and isn't able to get the most out of your speakers.
Change to method 2. The 608 with Audyssey is more intelligent than whatever they put in your sub, it will be able to give you the best setup. At the very least it will give you more flexibility, because you will be sending 3 separate signals (left right and sub). In your current setup you are only sending 2 signals (left and right) and your sub is just guessing what to play based on the left/right.

also, i would set your front l/r, center and surrounds to 80hz. your fronts definitely should not be set at full band.

If he leaves it setup the way he has it then Yes they most certainly should. Unless he wants his sub to play nothing below 80Hz -- his sub is running off his front left/right channels. See my post above.

why would a tv not support a receiver? I dont understand that.

yes, saw your post above after i posted. i agree that he should be using method 2 instead of method 1.

Seems pretty dumb to me too. Sounds like an excuse for a known issue like them not properly handling 1080p.

Badfish if you haven't yet, I'd post in the forum for you're TV, if its a known issue that your TV doesn't work with Onkyo, there should be alot of posts about units other than just the 608. If you're TV is relatively new I would contact both the store you got it from and LG (through some other way that live chat).

Quick update all. Just took possession of the 608! Very excited. Waiting on a couple speakers as well, so no setup pics immediately.

How are people finding the performance of the Audyssey 2EQ? I was hesitant initially to get the 608 because of this, almost opting for a 707 with MultiEQ or a new Pio 1020 with Adv MCACC. Can folks post a bit more about the quality of their sub sounds (since 2EQ doesn't apply filters) as well as the effect on your fronts/surrounds? Thanks!

Lastly, a couple pics:

Honestly Not much time with it as of yet and I have to get my meter back to judge. But for now the surrounds seem a little loud. The sub sounds great though. the EQ has pulled out a lot from my sub that it was missing. I am loving it so far. The fronts and center sound fuller. All in all it was a positive improvement. And this is coming from a 604.

Thanks Dave , Prankester and Phenwick for all your suggestion..will hook up with method 2

thanks for the feedback cdub998, i'm waiting on some energy speakers before i fire up this receiver. since my 8 year old sony avr had zero advanced EQing, i'm sure i'll be happy with the sound.

I would get the Onkyo hands down! I have owned plenty of HK gear over the years and the last good receiver I thought they made consistently was the AVR 525, the 25 series was a very good series for them. Since then they have sucked! I currently own a 3550HD which I am selling as there still is way too many quirks with there software.

A couple of questions as I want to replace my HK 3550HD unit in my office and I am going to move my Onkyo 705 down there.

1.) How would this unit work with a Sony XBR 2 TV, with it being most likely HDMI 2/3 can't remember.

2.) I am using a SoundBar(Polk) in our living room with a Sub and would like to run a extra pair of Front Speakers in Stereo when listening to music, and I still good to go with this model?

Opinion, they should have still kept pre/outputs on all channels even on this model. The 605 had them, kinda sucks this one doesn't.

I'm running HDMI through the 608 to a XBR1 with no problems, but its 1080i into the set.

I've seen the audio loss too while watching TV using my Dish Receiver and all my connections are via HDMI. Something fishy is going on here....

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