Originally Posted by nenito2k
After weeks of hesitation i decided to subscribe to AVSforums....
i have been quite active on avforums and didn't want to get sick all over with new stuff here. But the thing is that this is probably the best place to speak about bars and then there was " davyo "
i was looking at the CT500 and you were the only one on the web that actually reviewed the product from a pro standpoint. I almost got that but then quality issues with the thing made me forget about it and the 2010 models came out much cheaper and better i guess.
I don't live in the US and my only cinema audio experience is with sony DAV-200 2.1 that didn't blow me away at all.
the thing is the soundbars will be available here in September along with the yamaha s400 (that is regarded as the best bar available, YSP aside of course!)
i read davyo's CT500 review (like all members here with very very great interest) and 6 months later he got the new bar and just said "it's better than CT500..."
i was kinda disappointed (i love you man, you're a legend in the bar domain); where are the details: how is stereo from CD's? DTS/DD is it precise? is the center channel CLEAR ( i like crystal clear voices!!)? is the sub better than the 2009 model? and MOST importantly how does the bar handle PCM and videogames ????
you also mentionned that the surround on CT500 is much better than CT100. And yet say that CT-150 for surround top even the CT500....so i feel like you are telling us it's so good that it's like the YSP 4100 at 1300$...
Seriously man, people are relying so much on you for soundbars (i am!)
should i get the CT500 (available in my country)? should i get the yamaha s400 (question to other people that have heard this model)...
Overall davyo is the ARE YOU sure that the CT150 is really better than the CT500 or as good ???
Finally i think a CT350 combat is a MUST davyo....i think there is more to the bar that Watt power....
thanx for the huge contribution though
On another note i ran into a comment:
"don't buy sony products they use tiny drivers, usually 3ohm, that require much more power than large 8 ohm speakers. 500 watts on a Sony system may only give you the equivalent volume of 100 watts on a quality system.
They use tiny drivers that are not full range. The worst Sony systems have a cross-over frequency over 1000Hz, so that voices appear to come out the "sub-woofer".
BTW daveyo THD was 10% on the CT500 and 1% on the CT150. How important is that measure? and did you notice it ?
Originally Posted by davyo
Well thanks for the kind words and I dont think I have ever been called a soundbar legend before but I shall try and live up to the legend status in this reply to your questions.
As far as if I think the CT-150 is better than the CT-500,, I would have to say yes,, reasons being,,,, the on-screen menu system on the CT-500 was a bit glitchy, sometimes it was slow and un-responsive and sometimes worked fine,, perhaps the reason Sony droped it with the CT-150 and 350,,, the CT-500 had some QC issues, most worked fine but there were some lemons out there,,, as far as the overall sound and the surround effect,,, Im going by memory here but I do think the CT-150 does sound better than I recall the CT-500 sounding.
As far as the CT-150 vs the CT-350 the only difference I really think there is, is the wattage,,, and the CT-500 has a little bigger speaker bar,, I know the sub units on both are exactly the same (or so I have read)
As far as the Sony being as good as the YSP4100,,, thats a tough one,, I have not owned the 4100 but have owned the 4000,,, to me though, for the money and the HDMI connections and ease of use the Sonys are the better choice.
Ohhh crap,,, I will have to continue this post later,,, I just looked at the time and have to fly out the door,,,, post to be continued.
Ok,, Im back,,, had to go do that job thing so I could support my soundbar purchasing habbit.
To pick up were I left off for "nenito2k" and anyone else reading my rant.
I dont mean to take away from the YSP's by saying the Sonys are a better choice, thats just my opinion for my needs.
The YSP's are great soundbars and I think still the king of a realistic surround sound, but the downside for me on the YSP's is they require a bit of tweeking and Im not one that like's to tweek to much,,, me personaly, I tend to go for simple, easy set-up and hate reading manuals, but for someone that likes to tweek a system and really get into the menus the YSP offer's those options to really get into setting it up.
As far as CD's and video games, I cant comment on that,, all I have done with the CT-150 so far is movies only.
Can't comment on gaming either as Im not a gamer.
As far as is the sub as good as the 2009 models,,,, thats a tough one as its been a while since I have owned the CT-100 and CT-500 and Im just not sure enough to comment on any differences on the CT-150 sub vs the 2009 CT's.
One thing I do know, is the CT-150 is an upgrade soundwise and surround effect wise from the CT-100 and 500.
I hope I answered most of your questions and didnt leave too much out.
Now onto a side note,,,, part of the job of being a soundbar legend requires that I not keep the CT-150,,,, its in the soundbar junkie rule book,, the rules clearly state "I must return and exchange as many soundbars as I can to further write about them on AVS and offer opinions and feedback on said soundbars".
Im going to keep playing with the CT-150 for a few more days or a week or so and then return it as I did a pre-order on the new Vizio VHT510 5.1 soundbar system.
I really enjoyed the current Vizio bar that I recently sold to a friend so I am very interested in the new'er Vizio,,, it has some features I really like,, wireless sub and rear speakers, the Vizio headphone pairing, very stealth install/set-up, very user friendly, DTS and DD decoding and a few other things Im forgetting to mention.
Anyhow,,,next up for review,,, the Vizio VHT510,,,, who knows,, if I really like it,,, I might even keep it.
Re-stocking fees and shipping charges for returns are killing me