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post #121 of 2094
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Originally Posted by ovni View Post

Im lame because I dont want anyone else getting screwed? I ordered from a store Ive never even heard of. I have been ripped off by online vendors before. If I get screwed...its on me. Why get others screwed?

Ahhhh...ok. So you are PROTECTING us all from ourselves as we're not mature or intelligent enough to decide for ourselves if your on-line "deal" is indeed a good one.

Thanks for posting, Dad.
post #122 of 2094
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Originally Posted by ovni View Post

The point of my post was the price.

Terrific. We're all so happy for YOU. Keep up the great posts.
post #123 of 2094
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Originally Posted by davyo View Post

Her is the page for the HDMI switchers,,
http://www.monoprice.com/products/se...cher&x=21&y=11

As far as the Wii,, just run the optical cable from the Wii into the CT-350 and the video from your Wii to your display as you normaly would.

Cheers
Davyo

Wii does not have optical, but it does have stereo RCA. He can run that to the 350. Depending on the proximity to the tv, he may have to get 2 female-female RCA plugs and a stereo RCA cord to give him enough length to do this.
post #124 of 2094
Capecodguy.... Thanks for being so mature. You mention my post are great when you haven't helped this thread at all.
post #125 of 2094
The Monoprice switchers work great... I use one to give my non-HDMI Pioneer Elite 59txi receiver a few more years of life - and it is easily programmable with a Logitech remote, so my system is able to work seamlessly with the push of one button, even though it's a bunch of stuff that really shouldn't play well together at all.

A caution, though, because the Monoprice switcher is HDMI spec 1.3b, while the Sony CT150 and CT350 seem to be HDMI spec 1.4 (which deals with 3D and audio pass-through). It should work if you're just switching older 1.3 equipment, but not the newer 3D stuff...

Larry
post #126 of 2094
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Originally Posted by ovni View Post

Capecodguy.... Thanks for being so mature. You mention my post are great when you haven't helped this thread at all.

It's true that I haven't helped this thread as I have no experience with soundbars and am just starting my research. You could note that I have hundreds of threads where I have provided assistance to those when I had knowledge of the subject at hand. You, on the other hand, have a total of 4 posts that are simply a waste of bandwidth. Thanks for sharing.


And to those of you waiting with baited breath for Ovni to reveal her "special" store.....don't bother as Provantage has the CT-350 for $314 delivered.
post #127 of 2094
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Originally Posted by capecodguy View Post

It's true that I haven't helped this thread as I have no experience with soundbars and am just starting my research. You could note that I have hundreds of threads where I have provided assistance to those when I had knowledge of the subject at hand. You, on the other hand, have a total of 4 posts that are simply a waste of bandwidth. Thanks for sharing.


And to those of you waiting with baited breath for Ovni to reveal her "special" store.....don't bother as Provantage has the CT-350 for $314 delivered.

man, i really wish the CT350 was available for that price when i was shopping soundbars. i'm loving my CT150 so far, so i might think about upgrading to the CT350.
post #128 of 2094
After weeks of hesitation i decided to subscribe to AVSforums....
i have been quite active on avforums and didn't want to get sick all over with new stuff here. But the thing is that this is probably the best place to speak about bars and then there was " davyo "
i was looking at the CT500 and you were the only one on the web that actually reviewed the product from a pro standpoint. I almost got that but then quality issues with the thing made me forget about it and the 2010 models came out much cheaper and better i guess.

I don't live in the US and my only cinema audio experience is with sony DAV-200 2.1 that didn't blow me away at all.

the thing is the soundbars will be available here in September along with the yamaha s400 (that is regarded as the best bar available, YSP aside of course!)
i read davyo's CT500 review (like all members here with very very great interest) and 6 months later he got the new bar and just said "it's better than CT500..."

i was kinda disappointed (i love you man, you're a legend in the bar domain); where are the details: how is stereo from CD's? DTS/DD is it precise? is the center channel CLEAR ( i like crystal clear voices!!)? is the sub better than the 2009 model? and MOST importantly how does the bar handle PCM and videogames ????

you also mentionned that the surround on CT500 is much better than CT100. And yet say that CT-150 for surround top even the CT500....so i feel like you are telling us it's so good that it's like the YSP 4100 at 1300$...
Seriously man, people are relying so much on you for soundbars (i am!)
should i get the CT500 (available in my country)? should i get the yamaha s400 (question to other people that have heard this model)...

Overall davyo is the ARE YOU sure that the CT150 is really better than the CT500 or as good ???
Finally i think a CT350 combat is a MUST davyo....i think there is more to the bar that Watt power....

thanx for the huge contribution though

On another note i ran into a comment:

"don't buy sony products they use tiny drivers, usually 3ohm, that require much more power than large 8 ohm speakers. 500 watts on a Sony system may only give you the equivalent volume of 100 watts on a quality system.
They use tiny drivers that are not full range. The worst Sony systems have a cross-over frequency over 1000Hz, so that voices appear to come out the "sub-woofer".

BTW daveyo THD was 10% on the CT500 and 1% on the CT150. How important is that measure? and did you notice it ?
post #129 of 2094
i've asked this question before, but didn't get an answer.

what's the difference between 'linear PCM' mode and 'bitstream' mode? what is the preferred mode to have my CT150 producing the best audio it can? i notice that when i set my ps3 to output in 'bitstream' mode, my CT150's display shows that my source is producing a dolby digital (DD, DTS, etc) sound. is 'linear PCM' mode supposed to be better for sound quality? i've tried playing games and movies, on my ps3, in both modes and couldn't really tell any differences. i really have no understandin when it comes to technical audio information, so could someone chime in on this? thanks a bunch!
post #130 of 2094
yes that question has been asked so many times:
bitstream is when ps3 sends the audio to the bar/amp without "touching" (decoding) the sound. This way its the amp that does the decoding.

PCM is when the ps3 does decode the sound internally and send it to the bar/amp...that will play it as received.

many budget amps don't internally decode HD audio and that's when bitstream from ps3 is interesting

in your case there won't be a difference since you only use SD audio!!

When you will play a bluray with HD tracks you HAVE to put it in bitstream otherwise you will hear SD sound only.
But on a 3.1 soundbar i dunno if HD will sound better or not....

hope that you understand now
post #131 of 2094
nenito2k, do you live in Canada?
if yes, you can order it from "the nerds"
i had ordered and received
it is an awesome unit
post #132 of 2094
nope not lucky to live in canada; i am in north africa
post #133 of 2094
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Originally Posted by nenito2k View Post

After weeks of hesitation i decided to subscribe to AVSforums....
i have been quite active on avforums and didn't want to get sick all over with new stuff here. But the thing is that this is probably the best place to speak about bars and then there was " davyo "
i was looking at the CT500 and you were the only one on the web that actually reviewed the product from a pro standpoint. I almost got that but then quality issues with the thing made me forget about it and the 2010 models came out much cheaper and better i guess.

I don't live in the US and my only cinema audio experience is with sony DAV-200 2.1 that didn't blow me away at all.

the thing is the soundbars will be available here in September along with the yamaha s400 (that is regarded as the best bar available, YSP aside of course!)
i read davyo's CT500 review (like all members here with very very great interest) and 6 months later he got the new bar and just said "it's better than CT500..."

i was kinda disappointed (i love you man, you're a legend in the bar domain); where are the details: how is stereo from CD's? DTS/DD is it precise? is the center channel CLEAR ( i like crystal clear voices!!)? is the sub better than the 2009 model? and MOST importantly how does the bar handle PCM and videogames ????

you also mentionned that the surround on CT500 is much better than CT100. And yet say that CT-150 for surround top even the CT500....so i feel like you are telling us it's so good that it's like the YSP 4100 at 1300$...
Seriously man, people are relying so much on you for soundbars (i am!)
should i get the CT500 (available in my country)? should i get the yamaha s400 (question to other people that have heard this model)...

Overall davyo is the ARE YOU sure that the CT150 is really better than the CT500 or as good ???
Finally i think a CT350 combat is a MUST davyo....i think there is more to the bar that Watt power....

thanx for the huge contribution though

On another note i ran into a comment:

"don't buy sony products they use tiny drivers, usually 3ohm, that require much more power than large 8 ohm speakers. 500 watts on a Sony system may only give you the equivalent volume of 100 watts on a quality system.
They use tiny drivers that are not full range. The worst Sony systems have a cross-over frequency over 1000Hz, so that voices appear to come out the "sub-woofer".

BTW daveyo THD was 10% on the CT500 and 1% on the CT150. How important is that measure? and did you notice it ?

Well thanks for the kind words and I dont think I have ever been called a soundbar legend before but I shall try and live up to the legend status in this reply to your questions.

As far as if I think the CT-150 is better than the CT-500,, I would have to say yes,, reasons being,,,, the on-screen menu system on the CT-500 was a bit glitchy, sometimes it was slow and un-responsive and sometimes worked fine,, perhaps the reason Sony droped it with the CT-150 and 350,,, the CT-500 had some QC issues, most worked fine but there were some lemons out there,,, as far as the overall sound and the surround effect,,, Im going by memory here but I do think the CT-150 does sound better than I recall the CT-500 sounding.

As far as the CT-150 vs the CT-350 the only difference I really think there is, is the wattage,,, and the CT-500 has a little bigger speaker bar,, I know the sub units on both are exactly the same (or so I have read)

As far as the Sony being as good as the YSP4100,,, thats a tough one,, I have not owned the 4100 but have owned the 4000,,, to me though, for the money and the HDMI connections and ease of use the Sonys are the better choice.

Ohhh crap,,, I will have to continue this post later,,, I just looked at the time and have to fly out the door,,,, post to be continued.

Cheers
Davyo
post #134 of 2094
thanx davyo; you do have a life outside this forum, or so it seems

@low_moe besides the fact you mentioned the vocals are good, you didn't say a thing about the bar, can you give a us a full review with the sources you used???
do you have experience with 2.1/3.1/5.1 systems ?

@daveyo: one thing i hate about bars (damn you samsung WS1!) is when the sub does not integrate well with the bar. that just SUCKS. Many bars suffer from this issue, as if there were 2 different systems.
How is that with CT150 (and older models for that matter). This seems to be a very good side with yamaha s400 (yes i know i talk about this model too much, but reviews in Europe were very good!)
post #135 of 2094
differences between ct150 and ct350:

ct150 - 300W RMS, 3ea. 5/8" tweeters, no AM/FM tuner, 32" wide soundbar

ct350 - 400W RMS, 1ea. 5/8" and 2ea. 7/8" tweeters, Built-in AM/FM tuner, 40" wide soundbar

I do not know if the subwoofer is the same on both, but Sony list the subs as SA-WCT350 and SA-WCT150. It could be the same speaker with different model numbers. They both have a 5-1/8" woofer, so I would assume that they are the same.
post #136 of 2094
thanx for posting this tweeter thing. i just knew these 2 units were not the same. But how big of a difference will it make?

Well maybe we will never know...unless daveyo decides on getting one and does a direct comparison...boy that will make us feel better as he is the only one that can really provide an objective view
post #137 of 2094
So On the way home from work I stopped in the Sony Style store which finally received and connected the ct350. The thing looks good. I had the guy turn the sub up to 6(max) and i must say it seems to be lacking a little bit there. I couldn't really judge the bar as it was right in the open and probably untuned. It sounded decent (I have no soundbar experience, just been using my old panny sound system with R/W connections. I still think i am going to pick it up from provanatge for the $315 delivered.


Also note that colamco.com has them for $305 shipped, but are out of stock and will take 3-4 weeks(i contacted them)
post #138 of 2094
Has anyone tried the Sony TDM-iP10 iPod cradle for these? That would be a great addition for my use. Best Buy doesn't know about them, and SonyStyle is "out of stock," and there are some concerns that it doesn't display the images on the tv - so not 100% sure about the capability and quality of this.
Another option, I guess, is a universal iPod docking station. I have one from Best Buy that has S-video and composite video and a little weenie remote - however I don't believe it works for the latest generation iPods or iPhone. Here's the link... http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Dynex%26...26748&st=dynex ipod charger&cp=1&lp=4

Any other suggestions, or experience with hooking an iPod on one of these things?

Larry
post #139 of 2094
Has anyone ordered and received the 350 from provantage yet?
post #140 of 2094
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Originally Posted by LDBecker View Post

Has anyone tried the Sony TDM-iP10 iPod cradle for these? That would be a great addition for my use. Best Buy doesn't know about them, and SonyStyle is "out of stock," and there are some concerns that it doesn't display the images on the tv - so not 100% sure about the capability and quality of this.
Another option, I guess, is a universal iPod docking station. I have one from Best Buy that has S-video and composite video and a little weenie remote - however I don't believe it works for the latest generation iPods or iPhone. Here's the link... http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Dynex%26...26748&st=dynex ipod charger&cp=1&lp=4

Any other suggestions, or experience with hooking an iPod on one of these things?

Larry

I have heard good things about the TDM-IP50. You can get it from ProVantage for $69.73 plus shipping.
post #141 of 2094
Well I just took the plunge and ordered it from PROvantage for $315. Now I can buy a couple hdmi cables and a switch from amazon with my $25 GC.
post #142 of 2094
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Originally Posted by hrricane34 View Post

Has anyone ordered and received the 350 from provantage yet?

Doubtful. The site makes it clear that it's a special order item and will take 3-4 weeks at minimum.
post #143 of 2094
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Originally Posted by jaydeecee View Post

hmm so i am on the website but i have no idea what im looking for. also how will i connect my wii to the sony ht-ct 350?

The Wii doesn't have optical output so you will need to plug Wii to TV component or composite (whichever you choose) and then use the supplied optical cable to go from TV out to one of the open optical inputs on your CT350.
post #144 of 2094
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Originally Posted by SRT6Guy View Post

differences between ct150 and ct350:

ct150 - 300W RMS, 3ea. 5/8" tweeters, no AM/FM tuner, 32" wide soundbar

ct350 - 400W RMS, 1ea. 5/8" and 2ea. 7/8" tweeters, Built-in AM/FM tuner, 40" wide soundbar

I do not know if the subwoofer is the same on both, but Sony list the subs as SA-WCT350 and SA-WCT150. It could be the same speaker with different model numbers. They both have a 5-1/8" woofer, so I would assume that they are the same.

Wow. Those specs are a bit underwhelming, but hearing is believing. To me, it doesn't seem like there's enough of a difference between the two models to justify stepping up in price. What do you guys think?
post #145 of 2094
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Originally Posted by capecodguy View Post

Wow. Those specs are a bit underwhelming, but hearing is believing. To me, it doesn't seem like there's enough of a difference between the two models to justify stepping up in price. What do you guys think?

$66 difference from Provanatage, its not too much more to me at least. now if it was truly $100+ difference then I might reconsider.
post #146 of 2094
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Originally Posted by streetmike View Post

$66 difference from Provanatage, its not too much more to me at least. now if it was truly $100+ difference then I might reconsider.

True. But it's an $89 price difference when you look at Nerds.net for the CT150 vs. Provantage for the CT-350. That's near my threshold of questioning the value to the upgrade. Tough call without a side-by-side comparison.
post #147 of 2094
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Originally Posted by SRT6Guy View Post

differences between ct150 and ct350:

ct150 - 300W RMS, 3ea. 5/8" tweeters, no AM/FM tuner, 32" wide soundbar

ct350 - 400W RMS, 1ea. 5/8" and 2ea. 7/8" tweeters, Built-in AM/FM tuner, 40" wide soundbar

I do not know if the subwoofer is the same on both, but Sony list the subs as SA-WCT350 and SA-WCT150. It could be the same speaker with different model numbers. They both have a 5-1/8" woofer, so I would assume that they are the same.

Ahhhh,,,, I stand corrected,,, I thought the only differences were just the wattage and the speaker bar design/size.

Cheers
Davyo
post #148 of 2094
Quote:
Originally Posted by nenito2k View Post

After weeks of hesitation i decided to subscribe to AVSforums....
i have been quite active on avforums and didn't want to get sick all over with new stuff here. But the thing is that this is probably the best place to speak about bars and then there was " davyo "
i was looking at the CT500 and you were the only one on the web that actually reviewed the product from a pro standpoint. I almost got that but then quality issues with the thing made me forget about it and the 2010 models came out much cheaper and better i guess.

I don't live in the US and my only cinema audio experience is with sony DAV-200 2.1 that didn't blow me away at all.

the thing is the soundbars will be available here in September along with the yamaha s400 (that is regarded as the best bar available, YSP aside of course!)
i read davyo's CT500 review (like all members here with very very great interest) and 6 months later he got the new bar and just said "it's better than CT500..."

i was kinda disappointed (i love you man, you're a legend in the bar domain); where are the details: how is stereo from CD's? DTS/DD is it precise? is the center channel CLEAR ( i like crystal clear voices!!)? is the sub better than the 2009 model? and MOST importantly how does the bar handle PCM and videogames ????

you also mentionned that the surround on CT500 is much better than CT100. And yet say that CT-150 for surround top even the CT500....so i feel like you are telling us it's so good that it's like the YSP 4100 at 1300$...
Seriously man, people are relying so much on you for soundbars (i am!)
should i get the CT500 (available in my country)? should i get the yamaha s400 (question to other people that have heard this model)...

Overall davyo is the ARE YOU sure that the CT150 is really better than the CT500 or as good ???
Finally i think a CT350 combat is a MUST davyo....i think there is more to the bar that Watt power....

thanx for the huge contribution though

On another note i ran into a comment:

"don't buy sony products they use tiny drivers, usually 3ohm, that require much more power than large 8 ohm speakers. 500 watts on a Sony system may only give you the equivalent volume of 100 watts on a quality system.
They use tiny drivers that are not full range. The worst Sony systems have a cross-over frequency over 1000Hz, so that voices appear to come out the "sub-woofer".

BTW daveyo THD was 10% on the CT500 and 1% on the CT150. How important is that measure? and did you notice it ?

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Originally Posted by davyo View Post

Well thanks for the kind words and I dont think I have ever been called a soundbar legend before but I shall try and live up to the legend status in this reply to your questions.

As far as if I think the CT-150 is better than the CT-500,, I would have to say yes,, reasons being,,,, the on-screen menu system on the CT-500 was a bit glitchy, sometimes it was slow and un-responsive and sometimes worked fine,, perhaps the reason Sony droped it with the CT-150 and 350,,, the CT-500 had some QC issues, most worked fine but there were some lemons out there,,, as far as the overall sound and the surround effect,,, Im going by memory here but I do think the CT-150 does sound better than I recall the CT-500 sounding.

As far as the CT-150 vs the CT-350 the only difference I really think there is, is the wattage,,, and the CT-500 has a little bigger speaker bar,, I know the sub units on both are exactly the same (or so I have read)

As far as the Sony being as good as the YSP4100,,, thats a tough one,, I have not owned the 4100 but have owned the 4000,,, to me though, for the money and the HDMI connections and ease of use the Sonys are the better choice.

Ohhh crap,,, I will have to continue this post later,,, I just looked at the time and have to fly out the door,,,, post to be continued.

Cheers
Davyo

Ok,, Im back,,, had to go do that job thing so I could support my soundbar purchasing habbit.

To pick up were I left off for "nenito2k" and anyone else reading my rant.

I dont mean to take away from the YSP's by saying the Sonys are a better choice, thats just my opinion for my needs.
The YSP's are great soundbars and I think still the king of a realistic surround sound, but the downside for me on the YSP's is they require a bit of tweeking and Im not one that like's to tweek to much,,, me personaly, I tend to go for simple, easy set-up and hate reading manuals, but for someone that likes to tweek a system and really get into the menus the YSP offer's those options to really get into setting it up.

As far as CD's and video games, I cant comment on that,, all I have done with the CT-150 so far is movies only.
Can't comment on gaming either as Im not a gamer.
As far as is the sub as good as the 2009 models,,,, thats a tough one as its been a while since I have owned the CT-100 and CT-500 and Im just not sure enough to comment on any differences on the CT-150 sub vs the 2009 CT's.

One thing I do know, is the CT-150 is an upgrade soundwise and surround effect wise from the CT-100 and 500.

I hope I answered most of your questions and didnt leave too much out.

Now onto a side note,,,, part of the job of being a soundbar legend requires that I not keep the CT-150,,,, its in the soundbar junkie rule book,, the rules clearly state "I must return and exchange as many soundbars as I can to further write about them on AVS and offer opinions and feedback on said soundbars".

Im going to keep playing with the CT-150 for a few more days or a week or so and then return it as I did a pre-order on the new Vizio VHT510 5.1 soundbar system.
I really enjoyed the current Vizio bar that I recently sold to a friend so I am very interested in the new'er Vizio,,, it has some features I really like,, wireless sub and rear speakers, the Vizio headphone pairing, very stealth install/set-up, very user friendly, DTS and DD decoding and a few other things Im forgetting to mention.

Anyhow,,,next up for review,,, the Vizio VHT510,,,, who knows,, if I really like it,,, I might even keep it.

Re-stocking fees and shipping charges for returns are killing me

Cheers
Davyo
post #149 of 2094
I stopped by BestBuy this evening and all they had was the CT150. I listened to it, and was very under-whelmed. I am trying to tell myself that the CT350 will sound much better in the home. I know it is not realistic to listen to speakers in a B&M to form an opinion. I ordered my CT350 from MacMall when they had it for $304 shipped. They are telling me that they are supposed to receive their stock on the 30th (tomorrow), so I am keeping my fingers crossed.
post #150 of 2094
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Originally Posted by SRT6Guy View Post

I stopped by BestBuy this evening and all they had was the CT150. I listened to it, and was very under-whelmed. I am trying to tell myself that the CT350 will sound much better in the home. I know it is not realistic to listen to speakers in a B&M to form an opinion. I ordered my CT350 from MacMall when they had it for $304 shipped. They are telling me that they are supposed to receive their stock on the 30th (tomorrow), so I am keeping my fingers crossed.

Yes,, every B&M should have a sign hanging in the store that says "Stuff you listen to or watch here is guna sound and look like crap".

The only thing that ever sounds better in the store than in your house is at the Bose display.

Cheers
Davyo
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