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post #331 of 349
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Originally Posted by marine92104 View Post

Has anyone tried an Elite 33FD in their setup yet & if so what are your impressions.

I got my 33FD Monday, played 2 BD's I rented and tried a DVD just to try out upscalling. Played some CD's too.
I like it so far. Definately a step up from my old Samsung P1500.
I have an SC-27, so i wanted to try out PQLS. It took me a while to get it going, I had to enable Kuro and set the 33 to PCM. Yes it works, it uses the decoder in the player and sends multichannel PCM to the AVR which then outputs it unprocessed. Great for purists, and its in keeping with the purist approcah Pio-Elite has been using for many years. (My old VSX-79 has a Direct-Line mode).
PQLS worked great for 2 channel CD's, (but you need the TV on or you get HDCP error).
For DTS-MA, I prefer decoding in the AVR and using THX.
Predators - sound was great, video was great sometimes, scenery shots were beautiful, (but not alien enough), effects a little lacking.
Girl who Played with Fire, soundtrack needed help. And they overdid the bass for dramatic effect, not always at the right time.
Upscaling looked good, but still not HD. Didn't expect more.
The firmware update worked, it added the netflix, which doesn't work in Canada And I added a 2G USB, (9.99@wallyworld) Youtube might be useful to somebody, but i have a computer if i want youtube. And the RSS feed is nothing but pioneer adverts, again, useless to me.
Reprogramming my Harmony was quite quite a chore, turned out I had to put in delay after power on, before selecting inputs.
Overall, quite happy. My only complaint is the blue/white center light is brighter than on the SC-27, so they don't quite match.
I got about what I expected. I expect good picture, good sound, all the time.
post #332 of 349
@ $150 on amazon, the 330 is not a half-bad bargain for a basic user seeking to brand match with Pioneer AVR. Not for the purists definitely. I may have to get one (or a successor model) when my 320 goes out.

In this economy (esp after what happened with the Kuro) it may be that Pioneer had few options beyond cutting costs via re-badging Sharp products or co-manufacturing with Sharp.

So Oppo is the last man standing in the mid-fi range? I'll prolly get the Oppo 93 about mid-year primarily for the dual HDMI outputs. I do wonder though how it will fare @ $499.
post #333 of 349
Have had the bdp-33fd for a few weeks now and love it.
I've played quite a few movies and never ever have i seen a video glitch or heard a sound drop out.
HD is Beautiful!!
post #334 of 349
Does anyone know why I am not able to use the BDP 330 to upscale DVDs at 1080p 24fps to a Pioneer Elite Pro 940 HD? While the 940 HD is not a true 1080p TV, it is able to display 1080P 24 fps from Blu-ray. I thought the BDP 330 was capable of outputting 1080p 24fps when upscaling DVDs, but I am not able to do so.
  • If I try to manually set the BDP 330 to 1080p in the settings menu, a message is is displayed indicating my equipment is not compatible with that setting.
  • If I set the BDP 330 video output to automatic in the settings menu, the best resolution I am able to obtain when upscaling DVDs is 1080i.

Blu-ray playback is displayed at 1080p 24fps. I tried connecting the BDP 330 directly to the Pro 940 (instead of through an AV receiver), but it had no effect. I don't know if this is because of the BDP 330, the Pro 940, or both. I don't know if this would be the case with other DVD/Blu-ray players that can output at 1080p, too. I really wanted to see what DVDs look like at the 1080p 24 fps format.
post #335 of 349
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Originally Posted by jasonofwi View Post

Does anyone know why I am not able to use the BDP 330 to upscale DVDs at 1080p 24fps to a Pioneer Elite Pro 940 HD? While the 940 HD is not a true 1080p TV, it is able to display 1080P 24 fps from Blu-ray. I thought the BDP 330 was capable of outputting 1080p 24fps when upscaling DVDs, but I am not able to do so.
  • If I try to manually set the BDP 330 to 1080p in the settings menu, a message is is displayed indicating my equipment is not compatible with that setting.
  • If I set the BDP 330 video output to automatic in the settings menu, the best resolution I am able to obtain when upscaling DVDs is 1080i.

Blu-ray playback is displayed at 1080p 24fps. I tried connecting the BDP 330 directly to the Pro 940 (instead of through an AV receiver), but it had no effect. I don't know if this is because of the BDP 330, the Pro 940, or both. I don't know if this would be the case with other DVD/Blu-ray players that can output at 1080p, too. I really wanted to see what DVDs look like at the 1080p 24 fps format.

Not many devices upscale to 1080p 24 Hz. The Pioneer Elite VSX-32 and Pioneer VSX-1120 can do so. I have the VSX-32 and it does a wonderful job with its Marvell video processor. I don't have a BDP-330/31/33FD, but I have fed my receiver 480i via HDMI input and successfully upscaled to 1080p 24 Hz HDMI output to my Toshiba 32E200U 32" LCD HDTV.
post #336 of 349
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Originally Posted by Tom.F.1 View Post
I got my 33FD Monday, played 2 BD's I rented and tried a DVD just to try out upscalling. Played some CD's too.
I like it so far. Definately a step up from my old Samsung P1500.
I have an SC-27, so i wanted to try out PQLS. It took me a while to get it going, I had to enable Kuro and set the 33 to PCM. Yes it works, it uses the decoder in the player and sends multichannel PCM to the AVR which then outputs it unprocessed. Great for purists, and its in keeping with the purist approcah Pio-Elite has been using for many years. (My old VSX-79 has a Direct-Line mode).
PQLS worked great for 2 channel CD's, (but you need the TV on or you get HDCP error).
For DTS-MA, I prefer decoding in the AVR and using THX.
Predators - sound was great, video was great sometimes, scenery shots were beautiful, (but not alien enough), effects a little lacking.
Girl who Played with Fire, soundtrack needed help. And they overdid the bass for dramatic effect, not always at the right time.
Upscaling looked good, but still not HD. Didn't expect more.
The firmware update worked, it added the netflix, which doesn't work in Canada And I added a 2G USB, (9.99@wallyworld) Youtube might be useful to somebody, but i have a computer if i want youtube. And the RSS feed is nothing but pioneer adverts, again, useless to me.
Reprogramming my Harmony was quite quite a chore, turned out I had to put in delay after power on, before selecting inputs.
Overall, quite happy. My only complaint is the blue/white center light is brighter than on the SC-27, so they don't quite match.
I got about what I expected. I expect good picture, good sound, all the time.
Are you able to get DLNA network content? Photos, music, video?
post #337 of 349
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Originally Posted by Big C View Post

Not many devices upscale to 1080p 24 Hz. The Pioneer Elite VSX-32 and Pioneer VSX-1120 can do so. I have the VSX-32 and it does a wonderful job with its Marvell video processor. I don't have a BDP-330/31/33FD, but I have fed my receiver 480i via HDMI input and successfully upscaled to 1080p 24 Hz HDMI output to my Toshiba 32E200U 32" LCD HDTV.

Thanks for the message. I wish my AV receiver would do upscaling!

I was the under the impression that the BDP 330 did upscale to 1080p 24 fps. Has anyone been able to upscale standard DVDs to 1080p 24 fps with the BDP 330?
post #338 of 349
People asked if PQLS is worth making an issue out of it. I was finally able to try it myself and form an opinion. As you know, I recently got an HDTV and an Elite VSX-32 A/V receiver. Being a professional musician with sight impairment, I am more aware of audio detail. Not long ago, I connected my BDP-320 to my new Pioneer Elite VSX-32 A/V receiver and tried stereo PQLS with a stereo CD. I didn't notice much difference in the bass. However, it did seem to open up the higher frequencies/tones, which to me, is a more natural approach than turning up the treble control. So now, I'm trying to decide whether to wait and see if Ebay will sell a factory-sealed BDP-23FD for $200 or less, go for the BDP-31FD/HDMI cable $200 bundle from Vanns and take advantage of the two-year Elite warranty, wait for the BDP-430/41FD/43FD to come out, wait for Pioneer to abandon the Sharp design, or live with my new LG BD530, which I have developed mixed feelings about.
post #339 of 349
B&H Photo/Video lists the BDP-330 as discontinued, and its replacement, the BDP-430 for $300. Also, Pioneer's HTIB is not a rebadged Sharp, but rather a rebadged LG! I think I'll wait and see whose players they finally settle on either rebadging or designing before I buy a multi-channel PQLS player.
post #340 of 349
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Originally Posted by Speakerphile View Post

This fall. It's still summer.

Though, I feel your pain....

Hi Speakerphile,

Any news on this? So far all I've seen are Sharpioneers....

Thanks,
Basheer
post #341 of 349
Hey guys,
Does anyone have the firmware update BU10073000 for the BDP-31FD? The Pioneer website is down when you try to download the file through there. I've also tried getting it from userdrivers.com and no luck.

We're trying to get Netflix to play on the player, but don't see the option. We were only able to update to the version BU10050600, but that didn't help!
post #342 of 349
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Originally Posted by Dieselbird View Post

Hey guys,
Does anyone have the firmware update BU10073000 for the BDP-31FD? The Pioneer website is down when you try to download the file through there. I've also tried getting it from userdrivers.com and no luck.

We're trying to get Netflix to play on the player, but don't see the option. We were only able to update to the version BU10050600, but that didn't help!


I'm in somewhat the same boat. I got the BDP-31FD running BU10050600 for Christmas and it's not really pretty.

So far

DVD's that work:
Avitar (this seems odd to me)
Casino Royale

Fail:
Cars (plays previews, won't play movie)
Toy Story 3 (Can not read disk)
Knight and Day (Can not read disk)
The Town(Can not read disk)


Update: PM me for the location where you can download the latest firmware. After way too much hold time with Pioneer I was able to get a direct link to BDP_330_BU10111000.zip which seems to have the netflix support but I haven't tested.
post #343 of 349
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Originally Posted by hellergang View Post

Are you able to get DLNA network content? Photos, music, video?

no, i haven't tried. The only streaming i've tried is Utube.

P.S. I complained to Pioneer Canada about the misleading advertising on the canadian site. They used to have the big red netflix logo on the bdp-33fd. The tech who e-mailed me back simply said netflix doesn't work in canada.
Pioneer doesn't seem to have any plans for separate firmware for canada.
I guess the only good news is that they finally took the netflix ad off the canadian site.
post #344 of 349
First time i've tried a disc that won't play. The Last Exorcism. It loads and plays previews, then locks up on the Warning screen.
It says it's got latest firmware. ....73000 and its available on the pioneer site for those who posted that they couldn't download it.
Anybody else have this problem? Maybe my player is posessed?
Are there any settings I should change to make it play?

Edit/Update:
I tried it 2 more times with different settings, Nothing made a difference. Always got stuck at the Alliance Screen. Then I hit Stop at the point where it got stuck, it took a few minutes to time out and finnaly stop. Then, when I hit Play, it finnaly went to the menu. 15 minutes to load a BD?
post #345 of 349
Ok, not to open a dead thread, but I was in BB today and they have a Pioneer BDP 330 for 59.99 and the Elite BDP for 69.99. Is it worth it for me
to grab one? I have the BDP 51fd and have had nothing but problems. I can't get it to play the new Harry Potter or Netflix Blu Rays. After reading this thread I am hesitant but I want a Blu ray player that works!
post #346 of 349
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Originally Posted by Bocat View Post

Ok, not to open a dead thread, but I was in BB today and they have a Pioneer BDP 330 for 59.99 and the Elite BDP for 69.99. Is it worth it for me
to grab one? I have the BDP 51fd and have had nothing but problems. I can't get it to play the new Harry Potter or Netflix Blu Rays. After reading this thread I am hesitant but I want a Blu ray player that works!

Most owners of these players say that they are just pure junk! Too many bugs/issues. I guess for that price they might be worth it, but I guess you will have to expect some issues also.
post #347 of 349
Yes, after reading up about these players, I am going to stay away from them. Sounds dreadful.
post #348 of 349
Well, I took the bait and picked up the BDP-330.

Truly, I didn't take the time to read all the information provided here because I didn't know I was buying a Bluray player when I ended up with one. The price was worth giving it a try, therefore I did get it. Open box Best Buy with no remote so it didn't hurt the pockets at all.

So far, so good. I played Tron and The Mechanic yesterday and everything worked perfectly.

True, this Bluray player doesn't have many bells a whistles but it seem to work well with my Pioneer Elite SC-35. I just wanted to bitstream the Dolby Digital and DTS lossless HD signals from Blurays which my fat old PS3 couldn't do.

I hope I don't have any problems. It really seems not too bad since the player is just sending everything to the SC-35 with HDMI.

If this player holds back my system, I might just give it to a family member or place it somewhere else in the house.
post #349 of 349
Picked up this off ebay under $60 in mint condition, just a simple upgrade to one of the bedrooms that have the 120. If it preformes at the same levels of the 320 in the master bed room.it will fit nicely.
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