Samsung PN32B450 - 3D the same?

I believe that display is a 720p display, with an odd native resolution to boot. It uses the checkerboard method, so you would need the Mits converter, if the Mits converter even works with it.

Also, you would need after-market shutter glasses, such as the Xpand X103s.

I have a pn42b450, and so of course I've been on the alert for a way to use it for the new 3D. Taz is exactly right, and furthermore I doubt very much that the Mits converter will work for it. I'm afraid we're sunk.

Pages 25 and 26 of the TV's user' manual discuss using the TV for 3D and point the TV sill accept checkerboard 3D content and that you need an emitter conencted to the sync connector and that you need glases;

The following emitter and glases will support 3D on the TV:

http://www.i-glassesstore.com/dlp3d-wireless-2set.html

I see no reason why the TV will not downscale the 3D video frames it creates by de-interlacing checkerboard input to 1080p frames to it's native resolution for display since it can scale other video frame reesolutions such as 720p and 1080i/ sizes to 1024x768,

Nor should it - that converter is specifically designed for 120Hz DLP 3D ready 1080P RPTV's.

Here are two. (1) The manual specifies just one input resolution for 3D. (2) Anthony1 says he has tried it with other input resolutions, and the TV just grays out the 3D option -- it won't let you go into 3D mode.

If you mean you see no reason the TV was not implemented to scale 3D input, well, maybe there was no reason.

Not necessarily. The HDGURU article that discusses the Mitsubishi converter specifically says that:

Also, the article states:

AFAIK, all of the old-school 3D-ready Samsung plasmas were 720p, so if Mitsubishi is stating that older plasma sets will be supported by the converter, I have no reason to believe the PN42B450 and other models would not fall into this category. I guess we'll find out when the converter hits the market.

Additionally, even if the converter doesn't work, I'm sure something can be made to work. A HTPC, blu-ray drive, and software that outputs checkerboard, line interleaved, or column interleaved is all you would need. I'm fairly certain Stereoscopic Player, TriDef Media Player, or one of the other 3D sw players will eventually offer support for BD3D.

I agree. But that all has to do with input to the converter. The problem is with the input to the TV -- output from the converter -- which has to be at the internal native resolution of the old Samsung sets. And that's not 720p.

You're right Greg, after re-reading the article I agree that the second quote I posted refers to input resolution. Nonetheless, the first quote does specifically mention Samsung's 3D-ready plasmas in regards to being supported by the converter.

It should also be noted that Samsung also produced some 3D-ready DLP sets that were 720p. So it would seem logical to assume, if the converter is going to support these legacy DLPs and plasmas, that it would offer multiple output resolutions.

On another note, the OP references a 'PN32B450' plasma model, indicating a 32" display. AFAIK there never was such a model -- only 42" and 50" 3D-ready plasmas. Probably a typo.

After reviewing the marketing material and the manual for the 42B450 again(which is what I assumed is what the OP actually has) I have to admit nothing states or even implies that it will support 3D movies/film content and it appears that the fact that it will accept checkerboard content only applies to games sent to it in its native resolution.

The tv doesn't know or care what the content is: game, movie, whatever. As long as it is fed a 60 Hz signal at the appropriate resolution in either checkerboard, line interlaced, or column interlaced format, and the 3D mode is engaged, it will display alternating left/right images at 120 Hz. (Note that the 42" plasmas only support one input resolution for 3D: 1024x768, while the 50" models support both 1024x768 and 1360x768)

It is up to the device feeding the tv to create the appropriate input signal.

This display will work with 3D BD, you'll just have to use a HTPC. And if you can cap shows from your cable provider, it should work with that also. Currently, there is no way to cap Directv (bit for bit), so if you have that provider, you may be out of luck.

James
I totally agree with you the TV does not care or kow the source but I did not point that out since I am not aware of any source of checkeboard TV or Video disk content that outputs checkerboard content at other then at 1920x1080 which is what is used by the 3D DLP RPTVs from Samsung and Mits.

Although the content itself may not be in checkerboard format natively, converting it is easy enough. All you need (besides the emitter and glasses) is a PC, a graphics card with a DVI or HMI output port, and the Stereoscopic Player (SP) software.

SP can input virtually any 3D format out there (other than anaglyph) and output it into a variety of formats, including those required by any of the 3D-ready Mitsubishi and Samsung DLPs and Plasmas regardless of resolution. As long as your pc's graphics card supports the same resolution as the tv requires, it will work.

That means, should you feel a wave of 80s nostalgia coming on, you can pop in SENSIO's Jaws3D DVD and watch it in flicker-free 120 Hz 3D right now, today. Or you might prefer Spy Kids 3D.

Yeah I know the available content is pretty sparse right now, but the point I'm trying to make is that these old-school tvs just need a device, hardware or software, to feed them an input stream in the requisite format. SP can do it today with standard def field-sequential and side-by-side (SENSIO) DVDs. Heck, it can even read high def 3D video files (there are some sample downloads on the SP website). I have no reason to believe it won't be updated at some point to work with 3DBDs. There's no black magic involved -- it's all just bit-twiddling.

AFAIK the only software that can play the new FullHD 3D Blu-ray disks is Power DVD 10 Ultra

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1235861

You are correct and I now realize that a current product like Nvidia's 3D vision can output in different resolutions and formats the new 3D blu-rays as well as older S3D formats to product such as the Samsung plasmas under discssion and their new 3DTV vision product is requred if you need to send content to new 3D TV receiver that uses HDMI1.4 to receive 3D content. See:

http://www.nvidia.com/object/3D_TV_play.html

And as I've mentioned in another thread, the nvidia player is just a rebadged version of Stereoscopic Player (as is the TriDef player). And Stereoscopic Player is based on Media Player Classic.