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post #571 of 782
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Originally Posted by ItzMe View Post

Thanks for testing! I believe you may've discovered some real improvements in the D series. Of course my logic assumes my Win7 Media Server is working as well as yours is.

Ur welcome. Btw, now that i tested that, the Samsung PC Share Software recognizes the TV just fine
I wonder, why it works now. Tried about 3h yesterday, but to no avail.
post #572 of 782
Oh, good! I still don't understand Why you'd want to use it, though. I've read its horrible software.
post #573 of 782
Ive never used DLNA before, so im trying out some software.
post #574 of 782
Gotcha. Please keep us posted if you find anything you like (or dislike) as you try different ones.
post #575 of 782
Ok, here we go, ive tested some DLNA Servers for the new Samsung
(as a side note: Ive always switched of Transcoding, since the ATOM CPU doesnt have so much power for that
With Transcoding on, im sure, the results will be a bit different )

WMP: Works perfectly here, BUT: It seems, it always uses transcoding (at least i couldnt find an option to disable that)
to supply the videos. And the 2nd disadvantage (for me, since im using a WHS), i cant install WMP 11/12 to the WHS,
which is needed to get DLNA Server support there.

Samsung Share Manager: Its basically the worst of all Its dead slow to import videos and so on.
But once, its working, it does, what it has to do. But because of the speed, its more or less useless

Mezzmo: It basically plays about everything through the TV. But uve to pay attention to the profile. Dont
leave it to standard, otherwise it wont let you play MKV vids on the TV, despite the TV is capable of it.
The bigger problem, ive with Mezzmo is, that it constantly looses connection to the TV. Not sure why,
maybe it has no real support/profile for the Samsung D Series?

Twonky Server: Its like Mezzmo

TVersity: Since u cant really activate a TV profile, it didnt play a lot on my TV. Even MP4
didnt work (no sound)

J. River Media Center 15: Its like TVersity, a lot of problems, to get the vids goin on the TV.
(probably because there are no profiles for Samsung)

J. River Media Center 16: They've added a profile for Samsung, but not the D series. Maybe
bcos of that, i couldnt play MKV on the TV

So finally, im sticking to
Servioo: I can play everything and i didnt have a disconnect from the TV so far.

If any1 has further suggestion, pls go ahead and tell us/me
post #576 of 782
Thanks for the good info! Did any of these servers offer a better file nav at the Samsung end? I'm referring to having to sect Device-video-video-folders-folder name... all those items to select.
post #577 of 782
No, that is the same for every server from the list above.
The only difference they had, was, what other option additionally (like file format, file date and so on).
post #578 of 782
Thread Starter 
AW312

Thats pretty much my findings - was really a toss up between Mezzmo and Serviio.

For me Mezzmo won because I have BR Players in most rooms and I needed to restrict some content and Serviio does not have controls while Mezzmo does.

The other thing going for Mezzmo is that you can create playlists.

But when it comes to playback and reliability not much between them.
post #579 of 782
And as u can see, not much improvements since u started the thread ;(

Btw, dont u have any trouble with mezzmo, that ur BD Player cant connect to ur server? For me, when that happens, i cant access any content, cos mezzmo dissapears from the list for like 1-3 minutes.
post #580 of 782
Thread Starter 
Well no surpises there as Samsung are not in the software business. Likely happy that others fill the hole.

Yes, this happens from time to time and I have to stop & start the Mezzmo server. Does not happens often enough to be a problem thou.
post #581 of 782
Ok thanx, so its prolly the Mezzmo and not our TVs causing that problems.
Maybe they're fixing it sooner or later.
post #582 of 782
My first experience with software on my BD-D6500 Blu Ray
was with the Samsung sharing program. I found it very slow to respond.
To my surprise I was using a free program called Vuze (torrent program)
and I noticed it found my Blu Ray with it showing up under devices.

All I have to do is drag just about any type file to it and
it shows up in the menu of my BD-D6500. I have transcoding
turned off since the Blu Ray handles just about everything.

I tried a most of of the other programs and found them complicated
or to involved to use. I did have luck with mezzmo but could
not figure out how to stream over the internet to a PC.

I'll have to give Servioo a try



Ken
post #583 of 782
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Originally Posted by ItzMe View Post

Thanks for testing! I believe you may've discovered some real improvements in the D series. Of course my logic assumes my Win7 Media Server is working as well as yours is.

I don't think so. I have a new 59D6500 and the mkv's have to be renamed to .avi to play.

I serve them from a dedicated NAS running Twonky (i.e., not a pc).
post #584 of 782
Anyone streaming 3D content?
post #585 of 782
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Originally Posted by PassedPawn View Post

I don't think so. I have a new 59D6500 and the mkv's have to be renamed to .avi to play.

I serve them from a dedicated NAS running Twonky (i.e., not a pc).

So only some D series stream mkv's without renaming to .avi? Interesting

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Originally Posted by PassedPawn View Post

Anyone streaming 3D content?

Yes, I've streamed whats called half side-by-side (SBS) from my Win7 using hard wired regular Cat5, and they look good! If you get them as mkv, change to avi first. Also my c8000 requires that I manually press 3D on the remote and choose left/right (or SBS I forget). I understand these files are actually only half of 1080, though I have a hard time telling that.
post #586 of 782
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Originally Posted by ItzMe View Post

Yes, I've streamed whats called half side-by-side (SBS) from my Win7 using hard wired regular Cat5, and they look good! If you get them as mkv, change to avi first. Also my c8000 requires that I manually press 3D on the remote and choose left/right (or SBS I forget). I understand these files are actually only half of 1080, though I have a hard time telling that.

Hmmm, that's strange. Unrecognized content for my tv, but I can play fine on pc with VLC. Looks like two side-by-side pics on the pc. I did rename to avi. I guess I'll keep trying.
post #587 of 782
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Originally Posted by AW312 View Post


Mezzmo: It basically plays about everything through the TV. But uve to pay attention to the profile. Dont
leave it to standard, otherwise it wont let you play MKV vids on the TV, despite the TV is capable of it.
The bigger problem, ive with Mezzmo is, that it constantly looses connection to the TV. Not sure why,
maybe it has no real support/profile for the Samsung D Series?

Twonky Server: Its like Mezzmo

So, if not "standard", what profile do I need to be able to play .m4vs?

I'm able to play them on my Samsung TV. The profile was automatically set to "Samsung TV". However, this gives me the "soap opera effect", so I prefer to play through my Samsung BD player. When playing online sources from the BD, the soap-opera effect can be eliminated with the right settings on the BD.

However, I'm not able to play M4Vs on the BD. The profile is currently set to "Generic Media Receiver". What should it be?

Edit: "Samsung TV" worked.
post #588 of 782
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Originally Posted by PassedPawn View Post

Hmmm, that's strange. Unrecognized content for my tv, but I can play fine on pc with VLC. Looks like two side-by-side pics on the pc. I did rename to avi. I guess I'll keep trying.

I just streamed my first 3D movie to my Samsung. It was a side-by-side (stereoscopic) 1080p movie in a mkv container. Worked perfectly over my network.
post #589 of 782
I've been using J. River Media Center 15 to stream to a Samsung TV C650 and a Bluray Player BD-C5500. I haven't had any issues streaming over a wired connection.

Using the "Generic DLNA" profile, Conversion is set to Never Convert. Advanced options set are "DLAN", "DLNAExtra", No Server Header, Playstation 3 compatible, and Present Small Artwork.

I keep all my media in the same format and have had no issues with playback or disconnects. All videos are in an M4V (or MP4) container, h.264 High@L3.0 profile, and audio in AAC.

Known issues:
- I have NOT been able to get MKVs to play regularly.
- Subtitles only work when in a separate file not muxed with the video.

Don't know if this helps anyone, but figured I'd but it out there.
post #590 of 782
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by ProphetBeal View Post

I've been using J. River Media Center 15 to

Known issues:
- I have NOT been able to get MKVs to play regularly.
- Subtitles only work when in a separate file not muxed with the video.

While I found J. River Media Center to be a very feature rich piece of software I just didn't find it good enough in streaming multi formats..... and did not want to transcode.

Mezzmo pretty much plays anything and when it does not on investigation is because of the codecs inside the container is not supported by Samsung.
post #591 of 782
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Originally Posted by BritInVA View Post

While I found J. River Media Center to be a very feature rich piece of software I just didn't find it good enough in streaming multi formats..... and did not want to transcode.

Yeah I haven't played around with a multitude of formats. I had started transcoding all my videos to a PS3 "friendly" codec/container combo a few years back and found that for DLNA streaming it works great on multiple devices.

One of the features I do love in J.River Media Center is how they let you customize how your data is presented to the client. For example I've added folders for "Kids" so my wife doesn't have to look through the whole collection to find something for my children to watch.

I can't say I've used Mezzmo, but I will give it a try.
post #592 of 782
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Originally Posted by PassedPawn View Post

I don't think so. I have a new 59D6500 and the mkv's have to be renamed to .avi to play.

And I have to rename the files (mkv to avi) when I stream from my Win7 PC, and I still wonder why? Is it that my c8000 is missing a codec? Is my Win 7 Windows Media Center missing a codec? Something else?

Since I can play and mkv on the c8000 from a usb stick, I doubt the issue is with the Samsung, so I wonder what I can do on the Windows PC end of things.
post #593 of 782
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by ProphetBeal View Post

One of the features I do love in J.River Media Center is how they let you customize how your data is presented to the client. For example I've added folders for "Kids" so my wife doesn't have to look through the whole collection to find something for my children to watch.

I can't say I've used Mezzmo, but I will give it a try.

With Mezzmo you can create different Playlists - and you can restrict what device sees these playlists. I use this so we don't let kids have access to R rated movies on there bedroom players.
post #594 of 782
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Originally Posted by PassedPawn View Post
I don't think so. I have a new 59D6500 and the mkv's have to be renamed to .avi to play.

I serve them from a dedicated NAS running Twonky (i.e., not a pc).
What kind of file format do ur MKVs have exactly?
As i said, it works here w/ servioo.

Edit:
Ok, tried it again: Used Mezzmo on another PC, switched Transcoding off and went to the TV.
It plays .MKV just fine, w/o renaming to .avi or whatever.
On the Info tab, it reads the file as: video/x-mkv, Res is: 1280x720

Edit2: Ive tried something w/ the MKV file and found one, that couldnt be played by the TV.
The problem wasnt the format of the video, but from the sound. Audio Stream
with AC3 format is no problem, but if u have a Vorbis Audio, the TV cant play that.

@PassedPawn: What format do u have on ur MKV File?
(u can use MediaInfo to get this information).

Ive now converted the Vid using AnyVideoConverter and only changed the audio format
to AC3, it works perfectly now too.

Edit3: Finally, i did some testing w/ the WMV Format.
WMV (VC-1 (WMV3)) works w/ the TV, but WMV2 doesnt work w/ it.
post #595 of 782
I've been following this thread ever since I bought by Samsung 58" plasma with AllShare. I'm pretty happy with the product and will probably follow-up with BD x player for my other TV. Definitely going with Mezzmo for the media-streamer.

I have a number of legacy video files in various formats lying around, with mixed results for streaming. But it's finally time to get a little more serious about building my library (just like I did when I ripped by CD collection to MP3 about ten years ago).

So, while not trying to go OT here, I was wondering if people had thoughts on the best quality format to use that also has maximum compatibility with the Samsung platform. There have been so many different formats discussed (and helpful tips about how to make them work), but I don't believe I've seen a lot of discussion about what format to chose (assuming you can chose). So, I'm throwing it out there... for ripping regular DVDs (let's keep Blu-Ray off the table for just now)... what's my best bet for quality and format to have a great copy I can enjoy for years to come?

(I should add that I'm only interested in streaming via wired CAT5, not wireless, and, an ancillary concern is iOS compatibility for my iPhone4 and iPhone3, and while I'm willing to encode a second time for the iPhone, it would be nice to not do so)
post #596 of 782
Based on your parenthetical afterthought about iOS, consider H264 for everthing. I've seen it work well with streaming on Samsung.
post #597 of 782
Isnt MP4 the prefered file type for iOS related hardware?
Ill check back w/ my iPhone, if H264 works well w/o the need of Transcoding.
post #598 of 782
Just upgraded Mezzmo to 2.3 and notice that the Video, Music and Photo playlists are no longer integrated with Samsung. So I now have a choice of all three, despite choosing the Video icon on the Samsung gui.

Any ideas on a fix?

Kurt
post #599 of 782
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by kws53 View Post

Just upgraded Mezzmo to 2.3 and notice that the Video, Music and Photo playlists are no longer integrated with Samsung. So I now have a choice of all three, despite choosing the Video icon on the Samsung gui.

Any ideas on a fix?

Kurt

You will be better posting over at the Mezzmo forum - you will find those guys are very quick to resolve any issues. I had issues with 2.3 and my HT-C5500 (all my BD-C5500's were fine). And update to the profile solved the issue.
post #600 of 782
Hi all

just another question regarding Samsung's PC Share Manager,1st, is it possible instead of seeing the standard looking folder icon to have customized folder icons (windows 7 display;s the custom folder icon) can it do that, also if not is there any dlna server/streamer that my tv (samsung LA46C650) can support, that does the job, also is there anyway (scheduled task) to make it update new folder and sort them out alphabetically, because new folders are placed at the bottom, and to recreate the library the Share manager "SUCKS" my RAM up completely (practically using all of my 4GB RAM) and then crashes, i have to do this task atleast 3-4 times before it works again.
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