Getting new TV, Panasonic 3D or Samsung 3D?

I would go with the panny.

Somewhere I read (likely on this forum) that there is a way that the Panasonic can also show 3D using 2D content as the Samsung can do. Maybe someone here will recall the details but I know it requires adding something that does not come with the Panasonic.

As to your main question though, from a viewing perspective there is no question the Panasonic gives a better 3D experience. If you are still an avid gamer that might still be something to be concerned about going plasma.

I would also choose the Panny, but I wish someone would review the Sammy 3D PDPs.

PS: OP don't have to worry about gaming on the VT20

If you can wait, the Samsung plasmas are due out in a couple of weeks. That would give you more to choose from. If you absolutely must buy right now, I'd say the Panasonic has the better picture, and it doesn't ghost like the Samsung does. I've also seen animation and real world content on the Panasonic, and they both look amazing. All I've seen in 3D on the Samsung is Monsters vs Aliens. Animation is not the kind of subject matter on which to base a buying decision. Animation makes any display look better.

That's it. The 20 is brushed stainless steel and the 25 is darked simulated brass

Actually early reports were that the "Convenience Feature" DLNA was only going to be on the VT25 and not the 20. Was that reporting in error?

No specs availble yet. According to the HDGuru, VT20 has a RS 232 connection:

http://hdguru.com/panasonic-tc-p50vt...t-review/1391/

I'm going with Samsung. This will be my first plasma and from what I've gathered they both have great PQ with the blacks going to Panasonic and the color and detail to Samsung. That was regarding last years (and previous) models and I am curious as to what they are up to for the new models after testing and reviews are in. I was all for Panasonic till the black level thriller popped up. That was the straw that broke the camels back for me but I've no hesitation about ordering a Samsung.

i wanted an LCD badly, but all this talk about ghosting is scaring me off. Too bad, i'm a huge fan of Sonys processing. i love my XBR8, but i want a 3D set. I'm in need of a second set anyway so it's all good.

So i'm torn between the new Panasonic and Samsungs. But i think Samsung has a definite edge... their flagship 63" plasma the PN63C8000 is around $600-800 less than the pana VT25 65". Also, Samsungs will play any 2D content in 3D, which i think is a definite plus. Why be only strapped to watching the 3 3D blurays that come out this year. Panasonic, as far as i know, doesn't have this option.

And then the black rising thing is putting the nail in the coffin for panasonic in my view. I'll stick with the sammy. My buddy has the 58B860 and the PQ is really nice.

Why wouldn't you see them both first before making up your mind. Feedback from here is important, but you're the one who ultimately lives with the decision. I've read reports here where some members didn't see any ghosting on the Samsung whatsoever, while others did to varying degrees. There are both positive and negative reports posted about both units - so you need to see for yourself!!! Personally I'm not going to buy either of these units if I buy a 3D T.V. I want something better and I suspect it'll be available by summer.

My Pioneer 5040 died again. Not fixing it.. again.. so I've put my tiny 27" CRT on my TV stand (it looks so small!! hehe) until the Samsung 3D Plasmas come out. I'm probably getting the 58". Hard to justify the 63" $$$ wise for me. I can't justify the higher price of the Panasonics to my wallet...

Whitetrash66 - did you look for yourself at the demo's to see what you think of it? JUST going by opinions here without adding your own may not give you a complete picture (so to speak).

This year may not be; "the year of 3D BD" for 3D content. There will be much more 3D content available from CBL and SAT.

I took the plunge and got the sammy unc7000 ( could'nt resist, got it under $2000) however, I realized that the Onkyo AV rec that I just bought supports HDMI 1.3a. Im imagining that this will be a problem. Can I connect the Sam to the AV using HDMI 1.4 cables? Am I completely losing the 3D capabilities? Also, where's a good spot to buy cheap HDMI 1.4s?

The cables won't solve your problem. The receiver needs to have 1.4 ports. I don't think there will be any receivers available that can pass 1080p 3D until later this summer.

I bought 3, 2 meter 1.4 cables from buy.com for something like $18 w/free shipping. I needed some cables and thought as long as I'm buying some, I might as well get 1.4 cables.

What you'll need to do is pass the HDMI directly to the TV and use toslink for sound to the receiver. That is unless you buy a blu-ray player with 2 HDMI outs. One for the TV and one for the receiver. Some of the 3D players have this. Toslink won't support 7.1 or uncompressed audio, but for most movies, you likely won't notice much of a difference.

Only the Panasonic DMP-BDT300 and DMP-BDT350 3D BD players have that feature.

Regarding the Samsung and the 2D to 3D conversion feature: I just saw it in action. YUCK! It literally made me feel sick. I could see a bit of depth, but half of the time it was pseudo stereo (background appeared to be in foreground, etc) and I couldn't stand to watch a movie like that.

After they turned off the feature and I saw the native 3-D content, it looked good. The quick scene I saw did not exhibit ghosting.

Wow, Samsung is going to release a 3D plasma? I'll have to consider that before I buy. I am glad that came up because I went to Best Buy the other day to see demos, they only had the Sammy LED and not the Panny plasma. Anyway, the 3D looked better than I'd expected, which is good, yet I'd still like to go with a plasma for the black level.

However, I am a gamer. So, should I reconsider my plasma plan because I play XBOX 360? Do you guys think burn in and retention will really be an issue with this generation of plasmas when playing games?

I have a DLP now, and ghosting, burn in, or lag time have never been issues with my good old DLP. burn in has always been my fear of plasmas, and lag and ghosting always my fear with LCDs.

I won't be purchasing until the fall when prices drop, so do you think even Sony LCD, LG, or Toshiba will offer anything that will rival the Sammy or Panny sets we've been discussing?

I watched some of the Bare Naked Ladies BD and some of Pearl Harbour converted from 2D to 3D and thought it was great - I was a bit shocked. It looked a lot like Avatar in 3D IMAX - nothing coming out just a lot of depth, like looking through a window. Now I won't buy a T.V. without this feature.

Getting new TV, Panasonic 3D or Samsung 3D?

For those with children who want them to be able to watch 3D. Samsung has kids sized active shutter glasses that will work with their 3DTVs (LCD or PDP).

Information is HERE

thanks for the quick and great answer to my previous question. One final one regarding the 3D HDMI 1.4 transition. What about cable boxes? Right now I have a time warner samsung cable box. If I want to watch "3D cable TV" and listen to the sound through my AV? whats my solution there?

Both CBL and DirecTV will be sendng a firmware upgrade to exisitng HD STB's and DVR's. That's all that is needed. They won't use the same 3D format (nor quality) that 3D BD is using. You will get Half HD per eye (1 mega-pixel) versus Full HD per eye with BD (2 MP's). OBTW 720P is less than 1MP.

I just got the Samsung LED-LCD UN55C7000, It has very bad ghosting, So I am returning it, Then I will hold-off for a little bit.

I saw the Panasonic Plasma P50VT25 and it was way-way-better, but there was a little bit of ghosting. I sneaked my Monsters vs Aliens 3D movie into the player and watched it on the Panasonic P50VT25.

here is my thread:
3D Tech Talk > What is the cause for Ghosting an how do you fix it?

Dang bad.. Sounds like somebody may get a real nice open box deal on one of the hottest new displays....

What area of the country again?

my LED-LCD
It is going back tomorrow afternoon.

The 2D is very nice (the movies look so real it almost looks fake ), compared to my 3year old Rear projection 1080i DLP tv with DVI.

The 2D is almost worth it, I keep making excuses to prolong the taking it back part. It has stopped raining so I cant use that one now.

Because I have a Samsung 63 inch plasma and LOVE it, I am likely going to wait a few weeks for the 8000 series plasma to launch, and provided it gets good reviews, I will order a 63 inch model.

The "old" 63 inch will go in the bedroom

3D here I come!!!

I don't know about the Samsungs but I have seen the Panasonic VT20 and its an amazing set. Probably the best display I have ever seen for 3D (and a awesome 2D set as well). There was no ghosting as far as I could tell and colors and blacks and everything was nice. Is it worth the premium, I don't know. But the quality was there.