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post #31 of 703
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Originally Posted by rick240 View Post

What sub has auto-cal?

The Rythmiks with the PEQ amp provide one band of parametric EQ (manually set).

What other subs even have that? The Ultras do not come with an EQ ability.

You certainly can buy external sub eq systems, some of which are automatic.

On an aside, I've been waiting for these Ultra subs from Emo since late last year. They were first promised in January when prototype were expected early in the month and the pre-order was to be on the website by the second week. That of course never happened.

Then some tease news in a webcast in Mid-February with again "imminent" overtones.

Finally, they are here. Or at least the 12", hopefully the 10" is orderable soon.

I think the 10" will be a real contender in some markets - dominantly the 2.1 space where size and/or budget constraints exist. I plan to get one while anxiously waiting for a Rythmik F10 to become a reality.

Velodyne, JL Audio, SVS ect...
post #32 of 703
Pretty cool. I don't have a lot to directly compare with, and I'm no subwoofer expert. I had a Paradigm DSP-3100 before, then got a Velodyne Optimum 12 for an in home trial for a couple weeks. I also have a a Fathom F113 in a different room used for 100% theater....

I would place the Ultra 12 definitely above the Paradigm and Velodyne. The Velodyne was $1500 so the Ultra seems like an incredible value.

I only played a couple blu-rays I knew had good LFE to hear what it had and it seemed to really perform. I like the scene in Superman Returns where the chemical reaction in the water causes the lights to go out. The Ultra nailed it and made my room shake and you could feel it. That's no small feat for this room, because its really open ended with 25 foot celings....

So far so good!
post #33 of 703
any more update ? any more user reports ?
post #34 of 703
Looking for a small sub . How would the Ultra 12 compare to the ED A5s-550 in terms of build quality, drivers, specs, features or value?
post #35 of 703
This looks to be a closed sub, is that correct? Is it more of a musical sub?
post #36 of 703
need more reviews

would be interesting to compare dual ultra 12s vs a single epik empire

hmmmmm
post #37 of 703
Im getting some serious Bic H100/PL200 type vibes from this thing. Same weight, same type frequency response. (Keep in mind the bic subs quote a maximum of 114db output on the box or something like that) My guess is that this is a good budget sub, it might even be over priced depending on if the room adjusting EQ is up to par or not. Hell it might be a great sub for two channel listening depending on its musicality but going by its specs and its sealed configuration, its outgunned by some cheaper options from the start in regards to home theater use.
post #38 of 703
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Originally Posted by soldieroftafari View Post

Im getting some serious Bic H100/PL200 type vibes from this thing. Same weight, same type frequency response. (Keep in mind the bic subs quote a maximum of 114db output on the box or something like that) My guess is that this is a good budget sub, it might even be over priced depending on if the room adjusting EQ is up to par or not. Hell it might be a great sub for two channel listening depending on its musicality but going by its specs and its sealed configuration, its outgunned by some cheaper options from the start in regards to home theater use.

I seriously doubt it. Emotiva is known for being a value leader. Often their products are stacked up against gear that cost 4,5,6, or more times what they charge and either hold their own or beat them hands down. I would suspect that the 12" would easily hold it's own against $1000-$1500 subs.
post #39 of 703
Didn't mean to sound like i was doubting it but that is a very light total weight when you include a sub, amp and well constructed box. I looked at some of their other products and they look impressive though, I am definately learning about the company. If these pan out then I will probably get a ten for a smaller room but I have my doubts.
post #40 of 703
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Originally Posted by soldieroftafari View Post

Didn't mean to sound like i was doubting it but that is a very light total weight when you include a sub, amp and well constructed box. I looked at some of their other products and they look impressive though, I am definately learning about the company. If these pan out then I will probably get a ten for a smaller room but I have my doubts.

I'm definitely curious about them. However, I'm not ever going to get one. I just ordered a Danley DTS-10 and that will probably be the last sub I ever buy. I can't ever imagine needing more. The rest of my system is probably going to be Emotiva when I get it. I am truly impressed by the incredible bang you get for your buck. And if I buy all the pieces at once I can probably get a pretty good discount. I've heard of several guys getting deals for purchasing several pieces at once..
post #41 of 703
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Originally Posted by flyng_fool View Post

I'm definitely curious about them. However, I'm not ever going to get one. I just ordered a Danley DTS-10 and that will probably be the last sub I ever buy. I can't ever imagine needing more. The rest of my system is probably going to be Emotiva when I get it. I am truly impressed by the incredible bang you get for your buck. And if I buy all the pieces at once I can probably get a pretty good discount. I've heard of several guys getting deals for purchasing several pieces at once..

The Danley is a serious Sub!!! I own 3 Emotiva amps and 1 preamp, they are awesome, cutomer service is also class A. I am curious about the Emotiva sub, but still leaning towards the Epik Dual Empires. I have more research to do yet.

John
post #42 of 703
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Originally Posted by flyng_fool View Post

...Emotiva is known for being a value leader. Often their products are stacked up against gear that cost 4,5,6, or more times what they charge and either hold their own or beat them hands down. I would suspect that the 12" would easily hold it's own against $1000-$1500 subs.

I believe there is a huge difference between the type and level of competition in the amp building industry vs what currently is the state of competition in the ID sub building industry. There are a heck of a lot more small companies building subwoofers and doing the Internet Direct marketing thing than there are in the amp building world... they are small, lean with low overhead and are already cutting costs/prices to the bone to stay competitive. They up the quality (both sound and build) with each new release while keeping the prices low to stay competitive in a market where bang-for-the-buck is everything in generating sales. Emotiva may enter into this highly competitive arena with proven abilities on the amp building side of things but that's it. I seriously doubt you will find any sub Emotiva brings to market to be 4 or 5 or 6 times cheaper than the other ID competition... in fact, I suggest they will do well to just be holding their own at an even pricing... however time will tell if they will be capable of doing even that... in a couple of months if their new sub is such a fantastic deal it will be shouted out all over these forums as everyone attempts to not be the last one to get on the bandwagon... if there's one thing that's been shown to motivated huge sales on these forums, it is a proven bang-for-the-buck value.

"I just ordered a XXXXXX and that will probably be the last sub I ever buy." Come on, are you serious? These are the famous last words of everyone who posts in any sub forum right before a major sub purchase.... we all speak those same words again and again as our main justification (often to the wife) as to why that next big sub purchase (and often going into debt over it) is really going to be worth it this time.
post #43 of 703
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Originally Posted by monomer View Post

"I just ordered a XXXXXX and that will probably be the last sub I ever buy." Come on, are you serious? These are the famous last words of everyone who posts in any sub forum right before a major sub purchase.... we all speak those same words again and again as our main justification (often to the wife) as to why that next big sub purchase (and often going into debt over it) is really going to be worth it this time.

Well, my last sub lasted me 20 years. So if I keep this one 20 years then I'll never need another one because by then I'll be a deaf old fart and then almost anything will sound good.
post #44 of 703
I dont have experience with this new sub, but it looks to be like another typical 12" driver in a sealed mdf enclosure with a typical class D sub plate amp. It is what it is. It will probably sound just fine for those on a budget. But for $500 there are alot of decent subs including eD's A5s-300 12" sealed unit which does have a very high quality driver and a solid inert enclosure.........
post #45 of 703
nothing more y'all? I'm seriously tossing around the idea of an HSU VTF-1 or 2, or an SVS PB10 or 12 NSD. However, I'd love to read some impressions of anyone who has yet to hear the Emovita subs!
post #46 of 703
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Originally Posted by monomer View Post

..... I seriously doubt you will find any sub Emotiva brings to market to be 4 or 5 or 6 times cheaper than the other ID competition... in fact, I suggest they will do well to just be holding their own at an even pricing... however time will tell if they will be capable of doing even that....

+1

there's serious competition in this price level, like this one with better specs and almost twice the weight
http://www.edesignaudio.com/product_...roducts_id=681

...and at twice the price, I highly doubt it'll be able to best something like the Rythmik F12 or the Epik Empire
post #47 of 703
SO is there any more info? I have a space crunch and the Ultra 10 would be perfect. My current sub doesn't even sniff the 30Hz and below range, and the Ultra 10 claims to get down to 25Hz. Is this a fact?
post #48 of 703
anybody else get these?
post #49 of 703
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Originally Posted by soundwave888 View Post

anybody else get these?

^^^what he said...

There is about 3 more weeks left on their promo run and would like to hopefully get more info before I purchase.
post #50 of 703
I ordered the 10" sub today- they took another $50 when I bought an amp so I though what the hell.
I will post my impressions. This will compare to a Velodyne CHT-12 in a small room.
post #51 of 703
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Originally Posted by tim3320070 View Post

I ordered the 10" sub today- they took another $50 when I bought an amp so I though what the hell.
I will post my impressions. This will compare to a Velodyne CHT-12 in a small room.

Right on man, appreciate it.
post #52 of 703
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Originally Posted by gye View Post

+1

there's serious competition in this price level, like this one with better specs and almost twice the weight
http://www.edesignaudio.com/product_...roducts_id=681

Nice looking sub for the money. Will it allow you to bypass the low-pass filter like the Emotiva sub?
post #53 of 703
Still really eager to hear some reviews on this guy. At $350, this thing is almost a steal. However, if the specs dont match up, it isnt worth it obviously and Ill just wait for the SVS SB10-NSD.
post #54 of 703
I really can not believe that no one has posted reviews here on these! C'MON....someone has got to have pulled the trigger.
post #55 of 703
I have been listening to the 10" sub for a week now. I had a Velo CHT-12 in there and the room is small with drywall. The Ultra 10 is a bit cleaner sounding than the CHT-12 but it's output is overall less (but it's 1/2 the size keep in mind). This is probably due to the sealed design. It reaches pretty deep. It sounds a little more refined vs the CHT.
I would think this would serve pretty well in a music setup as it is clean sounding.
Overall, I am moderately impressed and feel that at the $299 price I paid (bought their UPA-2 amp so they gave me a deal) is a good value, but not as good a value a finding a better used sub like I have done over the years (I paid $120 for the HGS).
That said, you cannot go into a Best Buy and spend $349 and get better IMO. If your room is mid to large in size, I would suggest the Ultra 12.
post #56 of 703
looks like i'm gonna pass on this... not enough people reviewing it = not many people buying it...
post #57 of 703
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Originally Posted by soundwave888 View Post

looks like i'm gonna pass on this... not enough people reviewing it = not many people buying it...

That is not necessarily a correct correlation, but I do agree that the scarce amount of reviews on it has deterred me from the purchase as well. Ill just wait on the SVS SB10 that comes out in late summer.
post #58 of 703
I've been very happy with my Ultra 12. Its better than I thought it would be. I got sick of waiting for SVS, and for a 12 inch sealed under $500 this is a really good sub. Much better than its price may indicate. Don't take the lack of replies as evidence the sub isn't a good one.
post #59 of 703
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Originally Posted by jaeelarr View Post

That is not necessarily a correct correlation, but I do agree that the scarce amount of reviews on it has deterred me from the purchase as well. Ill just wait on the SVS SB10 that comes out in late summer.

If you don't like it then just send it back at their expense. I'm pretty sure that's their guarantee. I know it's kind of a pain to re-box it and ship it, but what else have you got to lose?
post #60 of 703
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Originally Posted by monomer View Post

I believe there is a huge difference between the type and level of competition in the amp building industry vs what currently is the state of competition in the ID sub building industry. There are a heck of a lot more small companies building subwoofers and doing the Internet Direct marketing thing than there are in the amp building world... they are small, lean with low overhead and are already cutting costs/prices to the bone to stay competitive. They up the quality (both sound and build) with each new release while keeping the prices low to stay competitive in a market where bang-for-the-buck is everything in generating sales. Emotiva may enter into this highly competitive arena with proven abilities on the amp building side of things but that's it. I seriously doubt you will find any sub Emotiva brings to market to be 4 or 5 or 6 times cheaper than the other ID competition... in fact, I suggest they will do well to just be holding their own at an even pricing... however time will tell if they will be capable of doing even that... in a couple of months if their new sub is such a fantastic deal it will be shouted out all over these forums as everyone attempts to not be the last one to get on the bandwagon... if there's one thing that's been shown to motivated huge sales on these forums, it is a proven bang-for-the-buck value.

"I just ordered a XXXXXX and that will probably be the last sub I ever buy." Come on, are you serious? These are the famous last words of everyone who posts in any sub forum right before a major sub purchase.... we all speak those same words again and again as our main justification (often to the wife) as to why that next big sub purchase (and often going into debt over it) is really going to be worth it this time.

Do you know what a DTS-10 is?
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