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Well the info banner on my TV says 1080p. I was under the impression it was 720p also. Not much else I can add. Sorry.

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Originally Posted by Joel802

Good to go Celblazer. They are definitely good glasses both in performance and comfort level. And the price was very good too. I have a question about the PS3 and the Avatar game. Does the game do 720p or 1080p on the PS3?
I heard differing reports so any info would be appreciated.

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Originally Posted by BioSehnsucht

Anyone have experience with the x102's or others wearing them over glasses for those of us without perfect vision?

I have the X102's and wear prescription glasses. The X102's are very light and fit comfortably over my glasses.
Fun with math:

XpanD 102

- takes one proprietary XpanD battery.

100 batteries = \$130 + \$10 shipping = \$140 = \$1.40 per battery.

Viewsonic PGD-150

- takes two common CR2032 batteries.

100 batteries = \$33 + \$0 shipping (link) = \$33 = \$.33 per battery.

Of course you need two, so, that brings the cost to \$.66 per 'battery' for 100.

= less than half the operating cost of XpanD.
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Originally Posted by nowknown

Fun with math:

XpanD 102

- takes one proprietary XpanD battery.

100 batteries = \$130 + \$10 shipping = \$140 = \$1.40 per battery.

Viewsonic PGD-150

- takes two common CR2032 batteries.

100 batteries = \$33 + \$0 shipping (link) = \$33 = \$.33 per battery.

Of course you need two, so, that brings the cost to \$.66 per 'battery' for 100.

= less than half the operating cost of XpanD.

Price is not my main concern, availability is...
1_ If Xpand decide in the future to stop making that batteries.
2_With a common battery, you get your glasses run out, you go out and get a new one in five minutes, with proprietary, you run out and have to wait a pair of days to get them from Xpand, and also pay for the shipping, I also live in South America, so it will take more than a couple of days and shipping will costs more than the batteries...
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Originally Posted by jmcdon7230

I have the X102's and wear prescription glasses. The X102's are very light and fit comfortably over my glasses.

Thanks! Good to know.
i think tru3d.com has some x102 glasses still in stock. dont buy them from that guy on ebay. Hes trying to make a big profit on it.
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Originally Posted by Lee Stewart

I really doubt XpanD is using a proprietary battery for their glasses. As you can see, there are a ton of Coin Style Lithium Batteries. just need to know the specs on what Xpand is using.

There are tons of types of flash media too, yet Sony will always choose to have its own proprietary one, so I don't discount the possibility that another company might want to go that route.
The Xpand 102 glasses us a proprietary housing the battery is sealed in.

I took one of mine apart and it's just a CR2032 battery. The housing snapped apart and was glued together. Problem is it needs to be glued together to stay in the glasses. So I may be able to replace the battery once or twice depending how things snap apart each time after being glued again. Question is will it be worth it to go through the hassle to replace the battery each time to save a buck.
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Originally Posted by celblazer

The Xpand 102 glasses us a proprietary housing the battery is sealed in.

I took one of mine apart and it's just a CR2032 battery. The housing snapped apart and was glued together. Problem is it needs to be glued together to stay in the glasses. So I may be able to replace the battery once or twice depending how things snap apart each time after being glued again. Question is will it be worth it to go through the hassle to replace the battery each time to save a buck.

Would you mind to take a pair of pics of the housing please?
It is not a buck for me, as they will costs me more than 100% plus in shipping and taxes to south america

and a set of these

Just an idea????
It says that the LIR 2032 are the same size and replace 200 of the cr 2032 batteries.

Anyone wanna try the surgery involved here?

I see someone already took one of the "proprietary" batteries apart please be our mcguyver here.
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Originally Posted by Alan M

Lovely
My 2 pair of x102 glasses will be here in a week, then I will see if it is possible or not to use the housing multiple times, but the Li-Ion Rechargeable Button Cells would be great!
XpanD 3D emitter and glasses package

http://www.3d-display-info.com/xpand...lasses-package

Wait till you see the price! Holy Moley!
Here are some pics. The problem I see is it takes a lot of force to seat the batteries in the glasses with the tool supplied. So the housing needs to be glued together well. Those rechargeable batteries look sweet and I wonder is the xpand battery housing would fit into that charger? If it would then we would only need to take apart the housing once then glue it back together nice and good. Hmmmmmm

I could not get the pics to show so here is a link to the album.

Pics
What I was pointing out with the test leads is you wouldn't have to plug them into it just run leads with alligator clips. So once your batteries go bad put the li-ion rechargeable batteries in there and seal it shut for good. I think I'll use some ten ton epoxy and a nice solid clamp. Then you could just connect the leads on the charger to the leads on the battery housing with the alligator clips(voila only take the battery housing apart once) The page did say that you need to charge two of those batteries at once though. Anyway I figure it this way once the first battery from each of my two pairs of glasses goes bad ill have 2 free xpand battery compartments to play with. If this works we should be able to get somewhere in the neighborhood of 16,000 + hours with each LIR 2032. I think its worth the surgery to a already useless dead battery. Ill risk the \$24.99 for the charger and 2 LIR batteries(maybe less somewhere else).

If someone was really brave they could even try and see if they could make it so the batteries didn't have to come back out of the glasses either until the LIR battery wouldn't recharge anymore. Just a thought.
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Originally Posted by celblazer

Here are some pics. The problem I see is it takes a lot of force to seat the batteries in the glasses with the tool supplied. So the housing needs to be glued together well. Those rechargeable batteries look sweet and I wonder is the xpand battery housing would fit into that charger? If it would then we would only need to take apart the housing once then glue it back together nice and good. Hmmmmmm

I could not get the pics to show so here is a link to the album.

Pics

Thanks very much for the pics

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Originally Posted by Alan M

What I was pointing out with the test leads is you wouldn't have to plug them into it just run leads with alligator clips. So once your batteries go bad put the li-ion rechargeable batteries in there and seal it shut for good. I think I'll use some ten ton epoxy and a nice solid clamp. Then you could just connect the leads on the charger to the leads on the battery housing with the alligator clips(voila only take the battery housing apart once) The page did say that you need to charge two of those batteries at once though. Anyway I figure it this way once the first battery from each of my two pairs of glasses goes bad ill have 2 free xpand battery compartments to play with. If this works we should be able to get somewhere in the neighborhood of 16,000 + hours with each LIR 2032. I think its worth the surgery to a already useless dead battery. Ill risk the \$24.99 for the charger and 2 LIR batteries(maybe less somewhere else).

If someone was really brave they could even try and see if they could make it so the batteries didn't have to come back out of the glasses either until the LIR battery wouldn't recharge anymore. Just a thought.

I think you're right, it can be done easily, at least seeing the pics
The clips should work. I may just order that charger and batteries an give it a whirl. I'll let u guys know if I do.
Nice work with the batteries celblazer, really got me and a friend thinking. I had never really thought about those as having rechargeable qualities till this. Basically I think because everything that uses those batteries lasts forever on one anyway. This is strangely one of the few uses that this charger would really be worth its time i think. I am definitely buying this set up and trying it as soon as my first set of batteries die. Thanks for the confirmation on that as well fosil sometimes its good to hear someone agree. I'm not the worlds most techie person but it sounded right
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Nice work with the batteries celblazer, really got me and a friend thinking. I had never really thought about those as having rechargeable qualities till this. Basically I think because everything that uses those batteries lasts forever on one anyway. This is strangely one of the few uses that this charger would really be worth its time i think. I am definitely buying this set up and trying it as soon as my first set of batteries die. Thanks for the confirmation on that as well fosil sometimes its good to hear someone agree. I'm not the worlds most techie person but it sounded right
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i think tru3d.com has some x102 glasses still in stock. dont buy them from that guy on ebay. Hes trying to make a big profit on it.

Yeah, don't buy from that eBay guy All in good fun Brad.
good luck selling em!
Thanks man. I'll need it ;-)

I have purchased from Tru3D as well; Tony and Reed are great guys and are a credit to the 3D community.
Has anybody had any luck with the Xpand 102's and the Optopma HD66? I have both and have had no luck seeing anything in 3d. I've tried the Avatar game on ps3 and it just doesn't seem to work, i put the projector in 3d mode, enabled 3d on the game and i see the 2 images but even when the glasses do flash which is infrequent, I can still see both images. Do I need a reflective screen to get the glasses to sync properly? I hooked up my projector to my computer and forced it to 120hz which at least got the glasses to activate but I can't find any 3d content that works. I've tried the stereoscopic player and tri-def software, all to no avail. The projector and glasses are both support dlp-link and they even show a pair of Xpand glasses on Optopma's website so I'm pretty sure they're compatible. What worries me is there is a complete lack of support on Xpand and Optoma's websites. Help!
Is there an option in your PJs 3D settings to reverse the right and left eye sync signals? If yes does it have any effect?
I did try the sync reversal in both the game and the projector and both together and neither worked.
I could not find any information in your PJ user manual that stated what 3D formats it would accept over what interface ports.
Have you tried using the Nvidia 3D Video application or their format on your PC to send 3D content to the projector it may be the only format that it workw with.
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Originally Posted by fernanz73

Has anybody had any luck with the Xpand 102's and the Optopma HD66? I have both and have had no luck seeing anything in 3d...

no, I haven't tried the nvidia application b/c I don't have it though to be honest I haven't looked for it anywhere. I assume there is a torrent out there with it. I didn't think it would work b/c I thought the glasses would have to be nvidias and I have the Xpand 102's. I'm getting pretty frustrated with the lack of support articles from both Xpand and Optoma. I called Xpand and some chick answered the phone and said it was probably the batteries. I didn't argue with her b/c she's sending me free replacement batteries though I'm sure it's not going to fix my issues. ;-) I am using only vga input right now, I wonder if I go pick up an hdmi or dvi card whether that will work?
Try calling Optoma instead since you need to find out from them the detail on how it will receive and display content since that information is not in their user manual and apparently not in any of the posts in the thread that JamesN referred you to.
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Originally Posted by fernanz73

no, I haven't tried the nvidia application b/c I don't have it though to be honest I haven't looked for it anywhere. I assume there is a torrent out there with it. I didn't think it would work b/c I thought the glasses would have to be nvidias and I have the Xpand 102's. I'm getting pretty frustrated with the lack of support articles from both Xpand and Optoma. I called Xpand and some chick answered the phone and said it was probably the batteries. I didn't argue with her b/c she's sending me free replacement batteries though I'm sure it's not going to fix my issues. ;-) I am using only vga input right now, I wonder if I go pick up an hdmi or dvi card whether that will work?

I believe you have to use HDMI. That gives the full correct resolution output. I have to use HDMI for my RPTV.
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