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Samsung 3D BD Player HDMI 1.3?

post #1 of 67
3/30/10 at 3:10pm
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I was scanning the owners manual and it clearly states it has HDMI 1.3?


Maybe only the displays require HDMI 1.4 then? A little confused here again.
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post #2 of 67
3/30/10 at 3:16pm
It could just be a typo

For the 55" LED 3DTV, they are on their 3rd date for the owners manual DNL, first March 16, then March 19th and now; User Manual(Mar 26, 2010)
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post #3 of 67
3/30/10 at 3:45pm
Unless it's the "hybrid" HDMI 1.3 (like the PS3 is going to get). Basically, it's HDMI 1.3 but with the 3D features of HDMI 1.4.
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post #4 of 67
3/30/10 at 7:58pm
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Originally Posted by JOHNnDENVER View Post

I was scanning the owners manual and it clearly states it has HDMI 1.3?


Maybe only the displays require HDMI 1.4 then? A little confused here again.

It does appear that it is listed that way. Did not see it in the manual but on the specs on the website. Which also violates the new HDMI standard. They are required to list what is supports not what version it is since the version does not mean anything as to what is supported.
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post #5 of 67
3/31/10 at 2:00pm
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Interesting too. I keep seeing references to this BD player being able to output 1080p/24 3d as well as 720p / 60 3D?

The 720p / 60 3D interests me... If this still means to each eye, then it may work with a projector like the Optoma HD66?
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post #6 of 67
3/31/10 at 2:17pm
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Originally Posted by JOHNnDENVER View Post

Interesting too. I keep seeing references to this BD player being able to output 1080p/24 3d as well as 720p / 60 3D?

The 720p / 60 3D interests me... If this still means to each eye, then it may work with a projector like the Optoma HD66?

From the BD-C6900 manual:

"As the video resolution in 3D play mode is fixed according to the resolution of the original 3D video, you can not change the resolution to your preference."
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post #7 of 67
3/31/10 at 2:39pm
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Well, one good thing about no available projectors? Is that maybe by the time one is out, the PS3 3D BD update may be closer and save me from having to get a new BD player for 3D.
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post #8 of 67
3/31/10 at 2:42pm
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Originally Posted by JOHNnDENVER View Post

Well, one good thing about no available projectors? Is that maybe by the time one is out, the PS3 3D BD update may be closer and save me from having to get a new BD player for 3D.

Just suppose that there are some 3D PJ announcements at INFOCOMM in June - wouldn't delivery be Q4 at the earliest?
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post #9 of 67
3/31/10 at 2:49pm
Since it has been reported that a 6900 player set to 3D output is automatically configured to 3D by a C7000 TV without any selection options having to be I feel quite sure that the 6900 is using a HDMI 1.4 chip and not a 1.3 chip.
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post #10 of 67
3/31/10 at 2:53pm
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Originally Posted by Lee Stewart View Post

Just suppose that there are some 3D PJ announcements at INFOCOMM in June - wouldn't delivery be Q4 at the earliest?

It's not like I have any choice in the matter.

I think Q4 is when the PS3 udate is also scheduled to be out too.

I wonder what the cheapest 720p DLP out with full BD and Broadcast capability will price at?

Needs to be under a grand for me to get it without any pain involved.
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post #11 of 67
3/31/10 at 2:56pm
I thought the PS3 update was supposed to come end of Q2, beginning of Q3?
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post #12 of 67
3/31/10 at 3:01pm
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Originally Posted by taz291819 View Post

I thought the PS3 update was supposed to come end of Q2, beginning of Q3?

That is what I heard also. - June/July. Sony 3DTVs go on sale in June
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post #13 of 67
3/31/10 at 3:03pm
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Originally Posted by JOHNnDENVER View Post

I wonder what the cheapest 720p DLP out with full BD and Broadcast capability will price at?

Needs to be under a grand for me to get it without any pain involved.

IMO - you aren't going to see one of those.

It will be 1080P and definitely more than a grand. 3D = 1080P. HD = 720P and 1080P
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post #14 of 67
3/31/10 at 3:33pm
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I hope your right about June...

Sony officially asserts the June update will only be for gaming. the BD update will be later.
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post #15 of 67
3/31/10 at 3:34pm
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Originally Posted by Lee Stewart View Post

IMO - you aren't going to see one of those.

It will be 1080P and definitely more than a grand. 3D = 1080P. HD = 720P and 1080P

Don't think anybody is going to come out with a 720p compatible projector aye? I'm not so sure about that one. We shall see. This seems taylored to bring 720p DLP back to relevance through it's potential cost effectiveness.
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post #16 of 67
3/31/10 at 3:43pm
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I hope your right about June...

Sony officially asserts the June update will only be for gaming. the BD update will be later.

I heard 'shortly" after the gaming upgrade.
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post #17 of 67
3/31/10 at 3:46pm
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Don't think anybody is going to come out with a 720p compatible projector aye? I'm not so sure about that one. We shall see. This seems taylored to bring 720p DLP back to relevance through it's potential cost effectiveness.

No, I dont. First it has to unpack a 3D BD frame which becomes two frames, then it has to scale those down to 720P. Then display them with micro second perfect timing.

Just like I don't believe we will see a 720P flat panel display that will be a 3DTV. They will all be 1080P
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post #18 of 67
3/31/10 at 4:59pm
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Since it has been reported that a 6900 player set to 3D output is automatically configured to 3D by a C7000 TV without any selection options having to be I feel quite sure that the 6900 is using a HDMI 1.4 chip and not a 1.3 chip.

From the Silicon Image web site: "In addition to supporting advanced HDMI 1.3 video features, the SiI9134 supports 3D over HDMI in the HDMI 1.4 specification".

When the source reads the EDID of the display I think it's just up to software to recognize the 3D frame packed formats, as long as the hardware can be programmed to output them (which apparently the 9134 can).

In fact the more HDMI documentation I read the more convinced I am that most HDMI 1.3 receivers may only need a firmware update to work with 3D.
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post #19 of 67
3/31/10 at 5:28pm
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Originally Posted by Lee Stewart View Post

No, I dont. First it has to unpack a 3D BD frame which becomes two frames, then it has to scale those down to 720P. Then display them with micro second perfect timing.

Just like I don't believe we will see a 720P flat panel display that will be a 3DTV. They will all be 1080P

I'll bet there will be some 3D 720p DLP FPs compatible with 3D BD put on the market. Scaling the content isn't that hard, once again, look at Stereoscopic Player.
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post #20 of 67
3/31/10 at 5:56pm
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I'll bet there will be some 3D 720p DLP FPs compatible with 3D BD put on the market. Scaling the content isn't that hard, once again, look at Stereoscopic Player.

Which is designed to run on a computer. Not inside a $700 projector.
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post #21 of 67
4/1/10 at 9:15am
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We shall have to remember this exchange, we will know eventually who is right.


I think there will be 720p offerings. Or maybe even an external box to do the scaling to make it so most 720p 3D ready projectors will work.

I call both will happen.
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post #22 of 67
4/1/10 at 12:37pm
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Originally Posted by JOHNnDENVER View Post

We shall have to remember this exchange, we will know eventually who is right.


I think there will be 720p offerings. Or maybe even an external box to do the scaling to make it so most 720p 3D ready projectors will work.

I call both will happen.

Yeah, but all of us are only guessing, it's like flipping a coin.
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post #23 of 67
4/1/10 at 12:50pm
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Originally Posted by taz291819 View Post

Yeah, but all of us are only guessing, it's like flipping a coin.

Guessing? Guessing? I will have you know that I . . . that's right . . . I, am using careful analysis of market conditions and connect-the-dots logic for forecasting future events. Then adding a health dose of TGF (The Greed Factor) by the CEMs. Using spreadsheet analysis with specially designed alogorithums, I come up with pin point accurate prognostication.

And when all else falls, I break out . . . . "the big gun " . . .







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post #24 of 67
4/1/10 at 1:14pm
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Dang... I don't think I can compete with a real working crystal ball.

I conceed.
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post #25 of 67
4/1/10 at 1:21pm
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Originally Posted by JOHNnDENVER View Post

Don't think anybody is going to come out with a 720p compatible projector aye? I'm not so sure about that one. We shall see. This seems taylored to bring 720p DLP back to relevance through it's potential cost effectiveness.

you must be canadian aye?
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post #26 of 67
4/1/10 at 3:50pm
Heh heh, I say aye all the time, but I'm not Canadian, hell, never been to Canada either. I have no idea where I picked it's use from.
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post #27 of 67
4/2/10 at 7:50am
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Me too on the saying "aye" thing.... I think I just watched "The Great White North" to many times.. I love the McKenzie Brothers. I have that one on LD and I'd bank I still pull it out once a beer, I mean year.
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post #28 of 67
4/4/10 at 8:18am
It's obvious neither of you are Canucks.

We spell it "eh", and it's usually followed by a question mark. We're unsure of ourselves, and using "eh" allows you to change any statement into a question.

Silly Yanks!
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post #29 of 67
4/4/10 at 1:28pm
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Originally Posted by JOHNnDENVER View Post

Don't think anybody is going to come out with a 720p compatible projector aye? I'm not so sure about that one. We shall see. This seems taylored to bring 720p DLP back to relevance through it's potential cost effectiveness.

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Originally Posted by Lee Stewart View Post

No, I dont. First it has to unpack a 3D BD frame which becomes two frames, then it has to scale those down to 720P. Then display them with micro second perfect timing.

Just like I don't believe we will see a 720P flat panel display that will be a 3DTV. They will all be 1080P

Agree w/Lee 100%.
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post #30 of 67
4/4/10 at 1:31pm
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Originally Posted by gwydionjhr View Post

It's obvious neither of you are Canucks.

We spell it "eh", and it's usually followed by a question mark. We're unsure of ourselves, and using "eh" allows you to change any statement into a question.

Silly Yanks!

That's right, eh?

My Canadian alter ego lives in Northern Windsor, but I come by it honestly.
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