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Do you guys think i should buy the samsung pn50c8000?

post #1 of 38
Thread Starter 
the samsung pn50c8000 In Stock now. do you guys think i should buy it or wait to find out if it has the buzzer?
post #2 of 38
I say get it. Can't you just return it if it turns out to be a buzzer? I think Samsung will end up making the best plasmas for 2010.
post #3 of 38
Is this a reputable retail store?
post #4 of 38
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Originally Posted by calvin35 View Post

I say get it. Can't you just return it if it turns out to be a buzzer? I think Samsung will end up making the best plasmas for 2010.

They have never made the best before, why would they start now? OP, my advice is never by a sammy from anywhere that does not have a no questions asked, no restocking or other fee return policy. The thin sammies are notorious for buzzing.
post #5 of 38
Vanns, Crutchfield, Amazon etc. are usually great with returns. Don't always get the lowest price (although often times do with sales) but that's what you pay for peace of mind.

Just got a 58B650 from Vanns for a ridiculous low price and it has a slight buzz. Not an issue at any of my seating. Vanns would take it back though, straightaway and send another. But I'm keeping it. Delivers a gorgeous picture and getting better with calibration.
post #6 of 38
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Originally Posted by XFistsClenchedX View Post

Is this a reputable retail store?

One Call is one of the best online stores to deal with, very good service,prices as well as no hassle returns!
post #7 of 38
I bought a C590 yesterday and there's no buzzing. A little bit if you put your ear up to it, but not much.
post #8 of 38
I've never had a problem with OneCall, bought my current TV from them, Fed Ex dropped it off the truck and cracked the case, TV worked just fine, they offered to take it back and send me a new one free of charge or refund the delivery fee, I took the money back and forgot the little crack was there, I would highly recommend them.
post #9 of 38
Thread Starter 
im thinking about buying it off crutchfield.com because they have 60 day return policy. but some times return policy can be a hassle.
post #10 of 38
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Originally Posted by felthove View Post

I bought a C590 yesterday and there's no buzzing. A little bit if you put your ear up to it, but not much.

How is that? It's one of the few plasmas in my price range.
post #11 of 38
Apparantly someone in this forum has purchased the pn50c8000 and is experiencing buzzing noise with only 8 feet away from the tv, picture quality is very good but did not mention anything on the 3d picture quality.
post #12 of 38
Thread Starter 
people need to tell us how bad the buzzing is with the volume up.

all i hear is how bad the buzzing is with no volume.
post #13 of 38
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Originally Posted by Ronald323 View Post

people need to tell us how bad the buzzing is with the volume up.
all i hear is how bad the buzzing is with no volume.

+1

The buzzing issue is a real annoyance to me because nobody is offering any objective measures of how bad the buzzing is or isn't. Unlike the rising black problem, where there are somewhat controlled measurements, with the buzzing, all we get is simply: yes buzz, no buzz.

Based on the ratio of comments, it seems that the majority of sets do NOT have abnormal buzzing. Yet some people report many sets in a row that buzz abnormally. This seems like a nonstatistical fluctuation and suggests to me that something is different about that environment or that observer.
post #14 of 38
I had an 09 Samsung plasma I returned for a uniformity issue, however it was also a buzzer. I could hear it from about 10 feet away. If I had not read about it on here I would have probably not have heard it at all, or assumed it was normal. I can tell you that I got used to it real quick, however it was in a cement basement which may have helped to drown out the sound. In my opinion, I would take buzzing with great picture over messy clouding and flashlighting, or even rising blacks.
post #15 of 38
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Originally Posted by nbaglior View Post

I had an 09 Samsung plasma I returned for a uniformity issue, however it was also a buzzer. I could hear it from about 10 feet away. If I had not read about it on here I would have probably not have heard it at all, or assumed it was normal. I can tell you that I got used to it real quick, however it was in a cement basement which may have helped to drown out the sound. In my opinion, I would take buzzing with great picture over messy clouding and flashlighting, or even rising blacks.


i just got done watching this video off youtube the buzzing really dont sound all that bad to me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fr78F5s7SYQ


this other video i really dont hear the buzz with the sound being on at the end.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESEd4rR3-Sw
post #16 of 38
No buzzing from my 7000.
post #17 of 38
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Originally Posted by Bill View Post

No buzzing from my 7000.

That's good news indeed Bill!

By the way, have you started dreaming in 3D yet.
post #18 of 38
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Originally Posted by Ronald323 View Post

the samsung pn50c8000 In Stock now. do you guys think i should buy it or wait to find out if it has the buzzer?

3D on a 50" looks stupid unless you are really close!

PS. Wait for the Reviews and make sure the Buzzing and the IR are not issues...
post #19 of 38
Thread Starter 
i cant really wait until Reviews. im trying to get the PN50C8000, Samsung BD-C6900, Samsung SSG-P2100T 3D Starter Kit all for $2,469.98. the deal will be up 4-30-10.
post #20 of 38
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Originally Posted by Ronald323 View Post

i cant really wait until Reviews. im trying to get the PN50C8000, Samsung BD-C6900, Samsung SSG-P2100T 3D Starter Kit all for $2,469.98. the deal will be up 4-30-10.

You have 25 Days before that expires, be patient for a bit, i know is hard!

Nothing like cold hard cash burning in you pocket!
post #21 of 38
Thread Starter 
lol ok ill wait until 4-26-10.
post #22 of 38
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Originally Posted by ratta41 View Post

3D on a 50" looks stupid unless you are really close!

Stupid is in the eye of the beholder.
post #23 of 38
I bought a PN50B860 a month ago and returned it this week for a LN55C630 (which I'm really digging so far by the way). I returned the plasma for the LCD mostly because of the buzz and the floating blacks but the banding or bleeding it was creating and the IR was also very bothersome. While I was in the store looking at the LN55C630, I saw the new PN50C7000 (or 8000, can't remember which one it was) on display and that it was also an Ultra Thin Panel like my PN50B860 (which based on my observations and research, the UTP TVs are the only models that are buzzing). It was buzzing exactly like my PN50B860 was. Based on this observation, it doesn't seem that Samsung has addressed the Ultra Thin Panel buzzing problem with their 2010 Plasmas and that if this bothered you in the 2009 models, it will most likely do so again this year.

As a side note, I was a little worried about going with the CCFL LCD after having the Plasma for a month. I was certain the viewing angle was going to suck, I'd be shocked by lame black levels, and I would miss the 600hz sub field. I was wrong. The viewing angles on the 2010 glossy SQ01 panel is really nice actually. I can't speak for the semi-matte 46" version of the C630 but the 55" is awesome for LCD. The blacks are much better than I was expecting and to be quite honest, considering the inherit negatives that come along with current plasmas across the board (Floating blacks, IR, banding/bleeding), I'm much happier sticking with the LCD technology.
post #24 of 38
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Originally Posted by Skeenatron View Post

I bought a PN50B860 a month ago and returned it this week for a LN55C630 (which I'm really digging so far by the way). I returned the plasma for the LCD mostly because of the buzz and the floating blacks but the banding or bleeding it was creating and the IR was also very bothersome. While I was in the store looking at the LN55C630, I saw the new PN50C7000 (or 8000, can't remember which one it was) on display and that it was also an Ultra Thin Panel like my PN50B860 (which based on my observations and research, the UTP TVs are the only models that are buzzing). It was buzzing exactly like my PN50B860 was. Based on this observation, it doesn't seem that Samsung has addressed the Ultra Thin Panel buzzing problem with their 2010 Plasmas and that if this bothered you in the 2009 models, it will most likely do so again this year.

Hmmmm....... most of the reviews I've read here on AVS from folks who have gotten their PN50C7000 plasma panels have been very positive, indicating little if any buzz along with beautiful pictures.
post #25 of 38
I took delvery of a pn50c7000 on Friday, and it is awesome. No buzzing. Picture is beautiful. My wife who is off of work after having surgery, keeps calling me at work telling me how amazed she is by it. I replaced a sony SXRD which we thought was awesome, but it is blown away by the 7000 plasma. I'm sure the 8000 is at least as good.
post #26 of 38
sackchamp56, welcome to the forum and congratulations on the new plasma. I'm glad to hear you are enjoying it, or should I say that your wife is enjoying it!
post #27 of 38
Well that's good to hear, I officially stand corrected.
post #28 of 38
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Originally Posted by Skeenatron View Post

Well that's good to hear, I officially stand corrected.

Of course now that you guys have started praising the new 2010 3D Plasma I start second guessing my decision to buy the LCD, but the first page I looked at after searching PN50C7000 was this http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1241887. This guys seems to be describing the exact same buzz I had in my B860 and what I heard on the floor model C7000. So who knows.
post #29 of 38
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Originally Posted by Skeenatron View Post

Of course now that you guys have started praising the new 2010 3D Plasma I start second guessing my decision to buy the LCD, but the first page I looked at after searching PN50C7000 was this http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1241887. This guys seems to be describing the exact same buzz I had in my B860 and what I heard on the floor model C7000. So who knows.

Very understandable after reading that one review, but of course it's important to note that he describes himself as a passionate newbie, and then goes on to describe his extremely high, and in my opinion unrealistic expectations, watching everything in 3D, big side lit windows etc.

As far as the buzzing goes, it sounds like he was watching in "Torch Mode" which runs the TV with the brightness and contrast levels pretty much all the way up, which will tend to exaggerate any problem the TV might have, including buzzing louder and making it run hotter than normal.

I think it's important when investing in something like this to spend some time looking into the technology and finding out what it's strengths and weaknesses are, especially when spending this kind of money.

Plasma TVs have many good points, but in order to get the full benefit it's important to understand their limitations as well, and, there might be times when an LCD would be preferable. It's also important to understand that it can take a bit of time to break-in and tweak a new plasma TV to get the most out of it.

As far as the 3D goes........ I think it's kind of a bonus technology at this point, and folks who think they are going to be able to watch "everything" in 3D on their new TV are probably going to be a bit disappointed.

This whole 3D TV thing is new, and interesting..... and for those brave enough to test the waters, and keep their expectations realistic, it should be a lot of fun.

As far as the PN50C7000/8000 goes, it's really to early to for any kind of verdict, so keep reading, asking questions, and enjoying the ride!
post #30 of 38
I ordered the 8000 50 in model on Friday...can't wait!
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