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post #1 of 21
Thread Starter 
Hello I have a few hours before I have to leave for the weekend, was wondering if anyone wanted to assist me in trouble shooting why I cant get any sound from my PC to my AV Receiver.

Hardware:
AMD Phenom II X3 720
ASUS M4A78T-A
4GB of DDR3 RAM
2x Sapphire Vapor X HD 4850's in Crossfire
X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Pro Series - This is my sound card w/ drivers installed (on-board audio is disabled)
DVI out 22" Samsung 2253Bw
HDMI cable from PC out to AV Receiver Yamaha HTR-6130
AV Receiver out to LG 42" Plasma

Software Involved:
Windows7x64
MediaPortal w/ Streamed MP
Haali Splitter
ffdshow tryout
MPC-HCx64
PowerDVD 10
ATI HD audio drivers installed
Latest Catalyst drivers installed
acsfilter installed

So, IDK what the heck configuration I should do, there are so many dang places to set outputs, config inputs.....I tried to play with settings last night until 2:00AM with not luck.

Any help would be appreciated Thank you
post #2 of 21
Thread Starter 
Ok so,

I just enabled my HD Audio device from my Bios, upon reboot Win7 installed/recognized my HD devices.

So now I have five different sources to choose from in Win7 Playback Menu, as follows (Top to bottom):

Digial Audio(S/PDIF) - New after Bios change
2-High Definition Audio Device
Ready

Digital Audio (HDMI) - New after Bios change
2-High Definition Audio Device
Default Device

ATI DP Output
ATI Definition Audio Device
Default Communications Device

Speakers
Creative SB X-Fi
Ready

SPDIF Out
Creative SB X-Fi
Ready

Still no luck figuring it all out....
post #3 of 21
Thread Starter 
In my system Device Manager under Sound, Video and game controllers listed are:

ATI High Definition Audio Device
ATI High Definition Audio Device
Creative SB X-Fi
High Definition Audio Device

Really 4 different devices, that has got to be a bad thing right....lol???
post #4 of 21
You do actually have four different devices. Each of the graphics cards have HD audio device, the Creative device and the onboard HD Audio device.

First can you explain which card you are trying to use and if you are connecting it via a digtial output or are you using the analog output.

Second, go to mmsys.cpl (start -> run "mmsys.cpl") and see which device has the check mark next to it.

edit: I see you already entered the check box info. Right now your sound is set to go out of HDMI. It appears that you have analog speakers plugged in as well. A simple method to decide which output is the receiver might be to right click on each device and play a test tone until your receiver plays sound.

-Rian
post #5 of 21
Thread Starter 
I have an HDMI cable and a DVI cable coming out of my First GPU.

DVI goes out to my 22" Monitor
HDMI goes out to my AV Receiver, Receiver outputs to my LG Plasma

Currently to get my sound working through my little pc speakers again I have the Checkmark next to the

Speakers
Creative SB X-Fi
Defualt Device
post #6 of 21
Which cable plugs into your receiver?
post #7 of 21
Thread Starter 
The HDMI cable goes to the AV Receiver, then Receiver goes to Plasma...sorry
post #8 of 21
I'm no expert by any means, but it seems to me that in my A/V recevier (a Pioneer VSH-819H, which is also in between my sources and my TV) there is an internal setting for each HDMI source input which controls whether the sound from that input is: a) captured and processed by the receiver; or b) passed along verbatim to the TV.

You should check your receiver manual to see if you have something similiar.

PS - no need to be sorry, your connection sequence was very plainly outlined in your original post.

Best regards.
post #9 of 21
Thread Starter 
I think I am understanding you correctly.

I will definitely take a gander through the manual, but I'm not sure it that is the problem.

Per what you saying if I do understand, is that maybe the receiver is just putting the audio out to the TV, instead of playing the audio at the receiver itself?

This would not make sense to me, as nothing else that I have playing through my receiver does that (Xbox 360, Wii, Xbox1 soon to be gone if I get this working right).

Now with that said I had my Xbox1 connection through the Component connection In for the DVD source. I have since disconnected the Xbox1, and connected the PC to the HDMI DVD source. I would think that it should just capture and play the audio like everything else, but like I said I am definitely going to look through the manual just in case.
post #10 of 21
Ok I think you need to set the ATI DP (display port) device as the default device. I am not sure why the graphics card endpoint is showing up as display port but that appears to be the ATI card.

As Squelch825 said it could also be a setup problem with the receiver.

You may also want to try troubleshooting this with just one video card. It may be easier to get it working.
post #11 of 21
Thread Starter 
OK, I am now starting to be concerned a little, something has to work though, right...lol?

Just for the sake of troubleshooting I have started from scratch and tried to make my configuration a bit more simplified.

First I uninstalled all of my Sound drivers, ATI HDMI Audio, the RealTek ATI Audio drivers (suggested in Thread #1029603), lastly I uninstalled all of my Creative X-Fi sound driver.
Then I went ahead and removed my X-Fi sound card, taking it completely out of the equation.

Now, after restarting I first installed the ASUS M4A78T-E Onboard Sound Drivers (VIA_Audio_V6017100_Win7). I plugged in my PC speakers and checked for sound, Sounds was good. Looked in my Sound Playback option and only saw VIA sources (Speakers - Default Device, SPDIF Interface (TX1) - Ready, Digital Output Device (HDMI TX0) - Ready)

Next I went ahead and installed the ATI HD Audio Drivers that are bundled in the Catalyst 10.3 Installation (10-3_Vista64_win7_64_dd_ccc_wdm_enu.exe). I checked sound, it was good. Then just to see I right clicked on one of the NEW Sound Playback options, five all together now, (ATI DP Output, and 2-ATI DP Output) and tried to test it. Like in the beginning I received an error/notification "Device is being used by another application, please make sure that no other applications are using this device, and try again", so no test, no sound from this Device. I even tried to set it as Default and try it anyways using VLC and a music file, no sound played at the AV Receiver.

Lastly I Installed the Realtek ATI HDMI Audio Drivers R242 (suggested in Thread #1029603), this produced a replacement of the ATI DP Outputs x2 and gave me Realtek HDMI Output x2. I right clicked and tried to test, I could see the green bar move but no sound came out of my Yamaha HTR-6130 A/V Receiver. I set it to Default and tried to play a music file with VLC, no sound as well.

So, I am still at my wits end in figuring this out, and have no more ideas. I did look through my Receiver Manual (have to register do DL Manual - Retarded) I can upload it to anyone interested in helping.

This is a Screen shot of my Playback option in Sound Menu, with AV Receiver turned on, and connected through the HDMI DVD source to the ATI HDMI port on 4850 HD GPU.
post #12 of 21
Thread Starter 
Just wondering but is there any way that I can test to see if the audio is actually being played at the HDMI port on the my 4850 HD, to troubleshoot if my problem is at the PC or at the Receiver?
post #13 of 21
on your screenshot does the bar to the right does it turn green when trying to play music. The bar should go up and down when playing music. Also you shouldn't have 3 HDMI outputs on that screen. I think I only have 1 and I have onboard and the 5670.
post #14 of 21
Another thing I would try is to remove your second monitor until you have the sound setup properly. I believe only one port can output sound at a time.

Also make sure the computer displays on your TV through the receiver. HDMI sound will not work without a display signal.

If you want to try the onboard HDMI it might help you troubleshoot if it is a problem with the receiver or the graphics card setup.

-Rian
post #15 of 21
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mrchung View Post

Also make sure the computer displays on your TV through the receiver. HDMI sound will not work without a display signal.

The video is being displayed very well, it looks absolutely amazing. I have been turning my little desk speakers up from across the room to have at least some sound.

Quote:
Originally Posted by mrchung View Post

If you want to try the onboard HDMI it might help you troubleshoot if it is a problem with the receiver or the graphics card setup.

In this scenario, are you suggesting to disconnect both of my 4850 GPU's and there drivers, then install the onboard GPU driver and play through it?

Quote:
Originally Posted by justinm0424 View Post

On your screenshot does the bar to the right does it turn green when trying to play music.

Yes, the green bar does move up and down when I test or play anything through that device. But all four connected device's show movement when tested or used.

Quote:
Originally Posted by justinm0424 View Post

Also you shouldn't have 3 HDMI outputs on that screen. I think I only have 1 and I have onboard and the 5670.

I do actually have 3 HDMI devices in my pc. I have the onboard and two 4850 HD's. Technically I would only be showing two, but I actually have the 'Show disconnected devices' check in the Playback options. But still if I should only have one showing that is a cause for concern.
post #16 of 21
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eternal7331 View Post

Now with that said I had my Xbox1 connection through the Component connection In for the DVD source. I have since disconnected the Xbox1, and connected the PC to the HDMI DVD source. I would think that it should just capture and play the audio like everything else, but like I said I am definitely going to look through the manual just in case.

My guess is that your DVD source on your receiver is NOT set to receive audio from HDMI since it was configured for your Xbox with component. Your DVD source probably says HDMI for video and Optical for audio. You need to set both video and audio on the DVD source to HDMI in your receiver settings.
post #17 of 21
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by bryansj View Post

My guess is that your DVD source on your receiver is NOT set to receive audio from HDMI since it was configured for your Xbox with component. Your DVD source probably says HDMI for video and Optical for audio. You need to set both video and audio on the DVD source to HDMI in your receiver settings.

I thought so too, but after reading through my owners manual, it actually is automatic. Meaning that you can connect multiple devices to any one source (DVD; Component, Composite, HDMI) and the receiver will first look for a Digital audio source if none are found it looks for Analog. Basically depending on what signal is being transmitted, it will look for the best source.
post #18 of 21
Thread Starter 
Well I'm a huge idiot, but at least I finally figured it out.

As was suggested earlier in the thread, whats happening is that my POS A/V Receiver is passing the Audio and Video straight through to my 42" Plasma.

My Yamaha A/V receiver which I thought was pretty nice turned out to be the bane of my troubles. Is it common for A/V receivers to pass the HDMI along like that?

In the end as my Plasma is a monitor not a TV, the best output it has for sound is Variable Audio Out: 2 channel Stereo (White and Red style), no Coaxial, no Optical, no Nothing. I am so sad all this PC and Video power and stereo sound

If anyone has any thoughts as to a way to get some better sound out of my system on the cheap, my ears are open.
post #19 of 21
Hdmi to TV spdif to receiver will get you 5.1 audio to the AVR. Disable hdmi audio or simply turn TV volume/audio off and control audio with the AVR. That is how I have my older 42 in Sammy plasma set up (DVI>HDMI cable direct to TV, SPDIF audio to my elcheapo Sony AVR. With DTS connect enabled I get directional sound for games) This should/might even work with HDMI>HDMI to the receiver carrying video only. Audio purists will probably shudder, but for geezers like me 5.1 is plenty good enough for 99% of users.

Bb
post #20 of 21
most of the newer receivers handle the audio over hdmi as well. like you said your does not.

http://yamaha.ca/av/PDFs/Receivers/2...130_Manual.pdf
page 16

you will need to upgrade receiver, or do something such as the above.
post #21 of 21
Thread Starter 
Can't I just connect a Sound Cable (SPDIF or PC style) from my PC directly to my A/V Receiver?

I think all my Mobo has is Optical SPDIF and regular PC speaker style Audio outs (Green, Blue, Black, Grey, and Orange). Witch would be better sound, as my A/V receiver will take both?

I know I can get an Optical Audio cable 20ft for like $35, but I don't even know if they make the other kind that long or what there even called.
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