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post #571 of 1485
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Originally Posted by ricabullah View Post
You and also me have no idea on non-HDMI 1.4 DLP TVs.
But at least i have a similar device: Acer 5360 and not only for games but for 3DBDs as well it needs at least one nvidia emitter. Because unless having that emitter you will never able to install 3d stuff for nvidia.
I have Xpan and Optoma DLP glasses and i can use them with my Acer 5360 without any problem but i have to use one nvidia emitter. (Even my DLP Link glasses do not use that emitter.)
So i think non-HDMI 1.4 DLP Mits owners will have the same issue.
But i have no feedback yet so i can not prove it.
Since the HDMI 1.4 specs were first released in December of 2009 the first DLP PJ's or TV with HDMI 1.4 receiver chips were not shipped before last March therefore all 3D capable DLP Pjs and TV shipped between 2007 and the spring of 2010 have HDMI 1.3 receiver chips in them. and support either frame sequential(some times referred to a over and under) or Checkerboard format
post #572 of 1485
Quote:
Originally Posted by ricabullah View Post
Why don't you use?

"LeftRight3D(lv, rv)"

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Because proper format for side by side is half width (960x1080 left and 960x1080 right image). LeftRight3D produces image that is not supported by tv 3840x1080.
post #573 of 1485
Sorry I didn't reply sooner. Yes, the older non-hdmi 1.4 Mitsubishi rear projection TVs do not require the emitter to work weigh Nvidia cards to play blu ray 3D. I have personally verified this. Using a gt430 with Powerdvd10.
Regards,
Bob P.
post #574 of 1485
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Originally Posted by ricabullah View Post


I don't think so; i'm afraid you are still going on spreading false information unless getting any real confirmation.
Check out first post-first item and have a look at this:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...&postcount=477

For new generation 1.4 DLP Mits there shouldn't be any need to use external emitter.

What is missing on this thread is real feedbacks.

Whoever fixes his own issue disappears from this thread instead of giving help to others.

Real DLP TV (non 1.4 HDMI DLP TV) owners please confirm me or not? Do you need at least one nvidia emitter to install 3D mode for nvidia?
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No! Not for bluray3D. Yes for 3D gaming.
Regards,
Bob P.
post #575 of 1485
bpalmblad, thanks for the feedback.

Please confirm if i understand right:

Older or new generation 1.4 DLP Mits TVs don't require any external emitter while playing 3D BDs but they will need an external nVidia emitter while playing games or files.
Correct?
post #576 of 1485
Quote:
Originally Posted by ricabullah
bpalmblad, thanks for the feedback.

Please confirm if i understand right:

Older or new generation 1.4 DLP Mits TVs don't require any external emitter while playing 3D BDs but they will need an external nVidia emitter while playing games or files.
Correct?
Powerdvd will play Bluray 3D and 3D from files (such as mkv etc.) sans emitter on both 1.4 and older checkerboard only Mitsubishis.

For 3D PC gaming the newer 1.4 Mitsubishis will work without the emitter if you purchase the 40 dollar 3D TV Play option from Nvidia (this is true for all hdmi 1.4 compliant displays). One thing I haven't tried is 3D TV play on the older non 1.4 Mitsubishi without the emitter. I can try this and get back to you if you are interested.
Regards,
Bob P.
post #577 of 1485
Quote:
Originally Posted by bpalmblad View Post
Powerdvd will play Bluray 3D and 3D from files (such as mkv etc.) sans emitter on both 1.4 and older checkerboard only Mitsubishis.

For 3D PC gaming the newer 1.4 Mitsubishis will work without the emitter if you purchase the 40 dollar 3D TV Play option from Nvidia (this is true for all hdmi 1.4 compliant displays). One thing I haven't tried is 3D TV play on the older non 1.4 Mitsubishi without the emitter. I can try this and get back to you if you are interested.
Regards,
Bob P.
This feedback is gonna be valuable, thanks in advance.
post #578 of 1485
I'm a bit confused...

I have a brand new Panasonic VIERA TCP42G25 3D TV. It supports Full HD 3D and I'm assuming HDMI v1.4.

I've purchased an nVidia GT 430 and am using Windows 7 with the latest drivers.

However, when I try to use PowerDVD 10 Ultra to play 3D content it says "couldn't enable your 3D device or something".

Do I need to purchase the nVidia "3DTV" add-on?
post #579 of 1485
Quote:
Originally Posted by ricabullah View Post


This feedback is gonna be valuable, thanks in advance.

Unfortunately 3D TV Play would not activate 3D for gaming on the older checkerboard Mitsubishi. Looks like 3D TV Play is hdmi 1.4 only.
post #580 of 1485
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Originally Posted by sofakng View Post

I'm a bit confused...

I have a brand new Panasonic VIERA TCP42G25 3D TV. It supports Full HD 3D and I'm assuming HDMI v1.4.

I've purchased an nVidia GT 430 and am using Windows 7 with the latest drivers.

However, when I try to use PowerDVD 10 Ultra to play 3D content it says "couldn't enable your 3D device or something".

Do I need to purchase the nVidia "3DTV" add-on?

You have everything you need to play bluray 3D. Powerdvd will give you that message if you haven't enabled 3D through the nvidia control panel.
post #581 of 1485
Quote:
Originally Posted by bpalmblad View Post

Unfortunately 3D TV Play would not activate 3D for gaming on the older checkerboard Mitsubishi. Looks like 3D TV Play is hdmi 1.4 only.

Thanks, that is what i expected but i need another feedback; pls have a look at this post:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...&postcount=534

Thanks.
post #582 of 1485
Quote:
Originally Posted by bpalmblad View Post

You have everything you need to play bluray 3D. Powerdvd will give you that message if you haven't enabled 3D through the nvidia control panel.

Thanks! Where do I enable it in the nVidia control panel? I only see an option for stereoscopic 3D stuff...

Also, I'm guessing that the nVidia 3DTV addon is for playing 3D PC games on my 3D TV?
post #583 of 1485
Title kinda tells it all. I have an HTPC powering an Acer H5360 projector using Windows 7. I get 3D using Stereoscopic Player, but not using either TMT3 w/ 3D Plugin or TMT 5. This has been the case using CCC 10.10, 10.12, and 11.1.

Originally I had an E5280 Pentium Dual Core and an ATI HD5670 card. I have 2GB of RAM. I bought the 3d plugin for my existing copy of TMT3 and kept getting anaglyph when outputting through the projector, even though it was set to 120hz and the Acer was in 3D Dlp Link mode. I could not get 3D

Finally, I downloaded the trial of Stereoscopic Player and voila, I got 3D for the same files I only got anaglyph for on TMT.

Since I need the ability to play 3DBD and Stereoscopic Player does not do that, I decided to upgrade my equipment and try the trial of TMT5 to see if that would get it to work.

I upgraded to a QuadCore E6600 and my video card to an AMD 6850. I got the same results with TMT5 that I did with 3. Only anaglyph output, but good 3D on Stereoscopic Player.

For TMT I set the output to AMDHD3D 120hz display. For Stereoscopic Player, I set the output to AMD Stereo Driver.

I have not tried PDVD10. Does anyone have some help?
post #584 of 1485
Quote:
Originally Posted by sofakng View Post

Thanks! Where do I enable it in the nVidia control panel? I only see an option for stereoscopic 3D stuff...

Also, I'm guessing that the nVidia 3DTV addon is for playing 3D PC games on my 3D TV?

You were in the right spot. Enable stereoscopic 3D by checking the box, this will probably start the nvidia 3d wizard (assuming it hasn't been set up for 3d before). Once this is complete Powerdvd should work.
Regards,
Bob P.
post #585 of 1485
That worked - thanks!

There is one strange problem though...

My PS3 plays Bluray 3Ds just fine.
My HTPC displays my Windows desktop at 1080p/60Hz perfectly.

However, when my HTPC switches to 1080p/24Hz for Bluray 3D playback, my desktop is... "fuzzy". It's not blurry but it's hard to describe.

Is this normal? The TV is a brand new Panasonic VIERA TCP42GT25...
post #586 of 1485
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Originally Posted by billqs View Post

Title kinda tells it all. I have an HTPC powering an Acer H5360 projector using Windows 7. I get 3D using Stereoscopic Player, but not using either TMT3 w/ 3D Plugin or TMT 5. This has been the case using CCC 10.10, 10.12, and 11.1.

Originally I had an E5280 Pentium Dual Core and an ATI HD5670 card. I have 2GB of RAM. I bought the 3d plugin for my existing copy of TMT3 and kept getting anaglyph when outputting through the projector, even though it was set to 120hz and the Acer was in 3D Dlp Link mode. I could not get 3D

Finally, I downloaded the trial of Stereoscopic Player and voila, I got 3D for the same files I only got anaglyph for on TMT.

Since I need the ability to play 3DBD and Stereoscopic Player does not do that, I decided to upgrade my equipment and try the trial of TMT5 to see if that would get it to work.

I upgraded to a QuadCore E6600 and my video card to an AMD 6850. I got the same results with TMT5 that I did with 3. Only anaglyph output, but good 3D on Stereoscopic Player.

For TMT I set the output to AMDHD3D 120hz display. For Stereoscopic Player, I set the output to AMD Stereo Driver.

I have not tried PDVD10. Does anyone have some help?

Powererdvd and Tmt should both work. Try editing your registry to force 3d support. The process is detailed in post #542 by inefext of the Acer h5360 hd3d thread in the projectors under $3000 section. I believe this will fix your problem.
Regards,
Bob P.
post #587 of 1485
Quote:
Originally Posted by bpalmblad View Post

Powererdvd and Tmt should both work. Try editing your registry to force 3d support. The process is detailed in post #542 by inefext of the Acer h5360 hd3d thread in the projectors under $3000 section. I believe this will fix your problem.
Regards,
Bob P.

You will need to reboot after the regedit for it to take effect.
Hope this helps,
Bob P.
post #588 of 1485
Quote:
Originally Posted by ricabullah View Post


Thanks, that is what i expected but i need another feedback; pls have a look at this post:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...&postcount=534

Thanks.

I'll try to do get you a couple of screen shots. I don't remeber there being anything different than what you see if you are connected to a regular pc monitor except for the 3dtv play icon being present in the nvidia control panel (will verify later). 3dtv play doesn't seem to do anything until you launch a game, then it pops up an archaic looking overlay giving status on its attempt to convert the game to 3d. If you are not set for 1280x720 @60hz it will alert you that your current resolution does not support 3d. If you are in a 3d compatible mode it will give advice on settings to optimize 3d performance (you have to make the changes manually through the game's menu.
Regards,
Bob P.
post #589 of 1485
Quote:
Originally Posted by sofakng View Post

That worked - thanks!

There is one strange problem though...

My PS3 plays Bluray 3Ds just fine.
My HTPC displays my Windows desktop at 1080p/60Hz perfectly.

However, when my HTPC switches to 1080p/24Hz for Bluray 3D playback, my desktop is... "fuzzy". It's not blurry but it's hard to describe.

Is this normal? The TV is a brand new Panasonic VIERA TCP42GT25...

I've noticed something similar on other displays. I believe it is normal.
Regards,
Bob P.
post #590 of 1485
Have you tried 1080p @23Hz(23.976) instead of at 24HZ?
post #591 of 1485
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Originally Posted by walford View Post

Have you tried 1080p @23Hz(23.976) instead of at 24HZ?

nVidia doesn't give me the option for 23.976. The control panel only lists "24 Hz".

I'm hoping that I can change something else because it's definitely nowhere near as smooth as 60 Hz...

Can PowerDVD switch resolutions for 3D playback only but leave XBMC at 60 Hz?
post #592 of 1485
Is there a list of all available Video Cards (AMD & nVidia) that have HDMI 1.4a?
post #593 of 1485
Lots of times i added the required links but i can't find them.
Easier way is to have a look at nVidia and AMD official sites.
post #594 of 1485
Quote:
Originally Posted by bpalmblad View Post

Powererdvd and Tmt should both work. Try editing your registry to force 3d support. The process is detailed in post #542 by inefext of the Acer h5360 hd3d thread in the projectors under $3000 section. I believe this will fix your problem.
Regards,
Bob P.

I've performed the registry hack twice (once before and again last night) and rebooted and still get intermittent results. While the 3D demo works in iZ3d, it's diagnostic report states that "AQBS is not supported" which I am sure lies at the heart of the problem.

One thing from the report is that the AcerH5360 is being reported as "generic plug n play monitor", although it correctly lists 1280-x720 resolution and 120hz refresh rate. Could this be indicative of an EDID error?
post #595 of 1485
I've got 3D playback working fine on an ATI 5xxx series card, but PowerDVD10 has issues with HDMI audio. The program often--but not always--crashes when loading a Blu Ray disc with HDMI audio output enabled. Oddly enough, it will work once in maybe a dozen tries. Discs will always load properly if HDMI audio is disabled. Anyone else experiencing this? Is there a fix?
post #596 of 1485
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Originally Posted by jhoff80 View Post

Good news. Catalyst 11.1, released today, appears to fix my issues with HDMI 1.4a 3D output when passed through a HDMI 1.4a receiver.

I haven't tried the 11.1a hotfix to see if it's working in that as well, but I'll stick with 11.1 even on my 6850.

Can this be real?!
Have to test it immediately
With the dual output workaround I got stutter problems from time to time.
post #597 of 1485
I can confirm as well that Catalyst 11.1 does fix the 3D bluray passthrough with my Pioneer VSX-1325-K Reciever and 6950. However i Tried the 11.1a hotfix and that seemed to break it. So i have since reverted back to 11.1 and was able to watch a full 3D bluray last night with out issue.

Shaun
post #598 of 1485
You fellas might appreciate this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktOSLfzXpT0&hd=1:)
post #599 of 1485
I'm having another problem... My 3D setup was working for a day, at most.

Now, when I play a BluRay 3D movie (with PowerDVD) the TV switches into 3D mode (automatically) but the movie is NOT displayed in 3D.

I've selected "HDMI 1.4 (1080p/24)" for my display type but it just displays 2D.

The nVidia 3D Test works perfectly though.

What can I be doing wrong?
post #600 of 1485
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Originally Posted by Frank View Post

You fellas might appreciate this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktOSLfzXpT0&hd=1:)

Frank, what i understand of this video is you play guitar; do you?

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