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post #601 of 1309
2/14/11 at 5:34am
Can confirm working 3D Passthrough (+HD Audio) with AMD 6870, Pioneer VSX-2020 AVR and Catalyst 11.1.
Did not test it with Catalyst 11.1a as it could brake Passthrough again as mentioned by Slasher99.
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post #602 of 1309
2/14/11 at 6:52am
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Originally Posted by ricabullah View Post

Frank, what i understand of this video is you play guitar; do you?

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Not anymore. That was long ago. Still have a guitar, 5 string banjo and trombone though.
The purpose of the video was to show one way that I
use my 3D HTPC.
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post #603 of 1309
2/15/11 at 1:47am
So I've tried 3D BD with both a 5770 and GTS450 with TMT5 on my JVC RS40 projector and I'm having serious crosstalk issues. There is an obvious ghost image on both sides of pretty much any object that is supposed to have a more pronounced 3D effect.Is there anything i can do to fix it? Would moving the 3D emitter help? Right now it is just sitting right on top of the projector.

The problem is not with TMT5, because I saw the same amount of crosstalk during the Stereoscopic 3D setup wizard after installing the GTS450 (the part where it asks you which image you see with your left eye and your right eye).

I asked in the JVC RS40 thread, but nobody there seems to be having this issue, so I assumed it was my AMD 5xxx card, but after getting the Nvidia 450, I think maybe it could be the projector or emitter or something.
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post #604 of 1309
2/15/11 at 4:09pm
Anyone try 11.2 yet (released today) to see if it's still working, before I waste my time playing with it? (Probably won't have time until the weekend).
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post #605 of 1309
2/16/11 at 8:19am
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Originally Posted by jhoff80 View Post

Anyone try 11.2 yet (released today) to see if it's still working, before I waste my time playing with it? (Probably won't have time until the weekend).

Will try it in a few hours.
Hope that the problem was only with the beta driver (Hotfix 11.1a).

Update:
Good news. No problem with Catalyst 11.2 and AVR Passthrough.
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post #606 of 1309
2/21/11 at 5:22am
I'm alway get 720p 60Hz from playing 3D BD on the system using HD6870 (driver 11.2) -> Onkyo NR708 -> Samsung 55C8000 with TMT 5

but other system using GT440 and 3DTV Play (trial version) can play very perfect at 1080p24 from a same source

What should I do to get 1080p24 on HD6870?

Thaks.
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post #607 of 1309
2/21/11 at 8:46am
I am getting an AmD 6870 to replace my "dead" GTX 470. My only concern is playing 3d Blu Ray movies. With the 470, I could play them without any issues using just Powerdvd and the nvidia drivers and my Samsung glasses. Do I need separate 3d drivers for the AMD card?
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post #608 of 1309
2/21/11 at 2:31pm
Please help! The more I read the more I am getting confused...

I own a Pioneer that can read looseless LPCM signals (LX03). I also own a 3D-ready 720p projector (Optoma HD67).

I would like to build up a HD HTPC (ie, with bluray) that has a rather small footprint which could utilize both, the LPCM part of the amplifier and the 3D-ready part of the projector.

I have read a few reports suggesting that the quality of the image using NVIDIA's infra-red emitter was much better than the DLP-link image, because of the lack of white flashes (used to synch the glasses). Therefore I am looking for an NVIDIA-based solution. But please note, that at best, I would play Sudoku with this PC

I've read in the very first post that a core i5 processor was sufficient. Could I thus go for a microATX motherboard with the new Intel Sandy Bridges and the NVIDIA vision 3D kit, without buying a dedicated NVIDIA GPU?

If in the contrary you suggest to go the AMD route, is there any IR emitter available that would do the synching with the glasses? Does the AMD solution support 3D-ready 720p projectors (ie, that use frame sequential and not checkerboard)?

I understand these are quite a few questions, but ain't that obvious what is needed!

Thank you for the help
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post #609 of 1309
2/21/11 at 11:21pm
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Originally Posted by tornadog View Post

I am getting an AmD 6870 to replace my "dead" GTX 470. My only concern is playing 3d Blu Ray movies. With the 470, I could play them without any issues using just Powerdvd and the nvidia drivers and my Samsung glasses. Do I need separate 3d drivers for the AMD card?

You do not need separate or third-party 3D drivers for the AMD 5xxx or 6xxx cards for 3D Bluray playback. In fact, you don't even need to open up the AMD driver panel and mess with settings each time you want to play a 3D BD. It just works automatically.

When you play a 3D bluray with a software player like TMT5 or Powerdvd, the 3D effect is automatically enabled during full screen, then it goes back to your normal 2D desktop display when you stop the movie or exit full screen.

Playing 3D games, on the other hand, does require purchasing third-party drivers AFAIK.
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post #610 of 1309
2/22/11 at 12:33am
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Originally Posted by nikotttin View Post

Please help! The more I read the more I am getting confused...

I own a Pioneer that can read looseless LPCM signals (LX03). I also own a 3D-ready 720p projector (Optoma HD67).

I would like to build up a HD HTPC (ie, with bluray) that has a rather small footprint which could utilize both, the LPCM part of the amplifier and the 3D-ready part of the projector.

I have read a few reports suggesting that the quality of the image using NVIDIA's infra-red emitter was much better than the DLP-link image, because of the lack of white flashes (used to synch the glasses). Therefore I am looking for an NVIDIA-based solution. But please note, that at best, I would play Sudoku with this PC

I've read in the very first post that a core i5 processor was sufficient. Could I thus go for a microATX motherboard with the new Intel Sandy Bridges and the NVIDIA vision 3D kit, without buying a dedicated NVIDIA GPU?

If in the contrary you suggest to go the AMD route, is there any IR emitter available that would do the synching with the glasses? Does the AMD solution support 3D-ready 720p projectors (ie, that use frame sequential and not checkerboard)?

I understand these are quite a few questions, but ain't that obvious what is needed!

Thank you for the help

You will need to run two separate cables from your HTPC: one to the projector for 3D video and one to the Pioneer for LPCM.

The Nvidia 4xx & 5xx cards will allow you to output 3D directly to your projector via its HDMI port, and connect a DVI>HDMI converter to its DVI port to send the LPCM audio to your Pioneer.

I am not sure if any of the sandy bridge motherboards will allow you to output HDMI audio through their DVI port.

Can't help you with the DLP 3D thing, as I use a JVC pj.
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post #611 of 1309
2/23/11 at 2:02pm
Hi guyz
I have a problem
my pc spec are
intel quad core q6600
4gb ram
500gb HD
400watt psu
now
i planned to moved to 3D so i changed the gpu card from gt 8500 to GT240
512 frm evga
evr since i installed and updated the firmware its keep giving me red screen sometimes
blue screen sometimes
sometimes
its just kicks off and back and graphics displayed not working and then gets normal
its driving me nuts
iam doing something wrong
oh p.s: when i played a bluray movie regular ones
power dvd 10 starts choking and out of sync for a while
please help
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post #612 of 1309
3/16/11 at 5:16pm
Thread Starter 
I added this to the first post:

ATI has something called "HD3D": link
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post #613 of 1309
3/16/11 at 7:26pm
ok this is confusing as crap. this is my first venture into 3D tv. i have read posts saying the gt 430 is the gpu to get for 3D htpc use. however, nvidia's hardware list does not have it listed.

i have a samsung PN50C490 3D plasma with the samsung active shutter glasses. i want to watch 3D torrents and blurays from my htpc. will the gt 430 do the job or do i need to step up to the gts 450?
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post #614 of 1309
3/16/11 at 7:41pm
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Originally Posted by j5627429 View Post
You do not need separate or third-party 3D drivers for the AMD 5xxx or 6xxx cards for 3D Bluray playback.
3D with a 5xxx card?
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post #615 of 1309
3/17/11 at 2:36am
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Originally Posted by kdiggz View Post

ok this is confusing as crap. this is my first venture into 3D tv. i have read posts saying the gt 430 is the gpu to get for 3D htpc use. however, nvidia's hardware list does not have it listed.

i have a samsung PN50C490 3D plasma with the samsung active shutter glasses. i want to watch 3D torrents and blurays from my htpc. will the gt 430 do the job or do i need to step up to the gts 450?

I know for sure that a GTX460 does the job impressively. That is what I have in my current setup.

Use only the 260.99 drivers as well, the newer one is a disappointment.
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post #616 of 1309
3/17/11 at 7:06am
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Originally Posted by balky View Post

I know for sure that a GTX460 does the job impressively. That is what I have in my current setup.

Use only the 260.99 drivers as well, the newer one is a disappointment.

that would be complete overkill though i think. i dont game. just want to watch 3D movies from my htpc on my new 3D plasma tv
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post #617 of 1309
3/17/11 at 8:30am
I don't know about torrrents (MKV3D's? ), but gt 430 plays 3d blurays (and, therefore, ISO's) through hdmi1.4 without any problems.
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post #618 of 1309
3/17/11 at 2:22pm
3D files can be read by Stereoscopic Player. This is the most versatile player for 3D files on HDD afaik. (this is not related with GPU btw.)
And i forgot saying that you will need nVidia 3D TV Play activation key for playing files/games. (this is not a player btw.)
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post #619 of 1309
3/17/11 at 4:22pm
but what about a card? i heard i needed a 1.4 hdmi card and i've heard gt 430 was the cheap htpc one to get. but meanwhile, it's not listed on nvidia's site as being compatible with 3D tv
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post #620 of 1309
3/17/11 at 4:22pm
http://www.nvidia.com/object/3dtv-pl...uirements.html
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post #621 of 1309
3/17/11 at 4:46pm
Just forget nVidia's list; they don't update the list frequently.
I have both 430 and 460 and both gives me 3D.
If you have a latest generation 3D TV you need to pay 40 USD for nVidia 3D TV Play once to watch 3D files and to have to buy Stereoscopic Player.
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post #622 of 1309
3/17/11 at 5:27pm
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Originally Posted by ricabullah View Post

Just forget nVidia's list; they don't update the list frequently.
I have both 430 and 460 and both gives me 3D.
If you have a latest generation 3TV you need to pay 40 USD for nVidia 3D TV Play once to watch 3D files and to have to buy Stereoscopic Player.

Do you need to buy that just to play a 3d blu ray?
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post #623 of 1309
3/17/11 at 5:41pm
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Originally Posted by whiteboy714 View Post

Do you need to buy that just to play a 3d blu ray?

No, you need TMT5 or PDVD10 or WinDVD10 for playing 3D BDs. Stereoscopic Player can not play 3D BDs for now.
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post #624 of 1309
3/18/11 at 3:49pm
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Originally Posted by ricabullah View Post

No, you need TMT5 or PDVD10 or WinDVD10 for playing 3D BDs. Stereoscopic Player can not play 3D BDs for now.

So the 3d tvs like a samsung plasma for example can convert 2d to 3d. Does nvidia 3dtv play do anything that my tv can't do?

Like is it better and making stuff 3d? Trying to figure this all out before I spend a bunch of money I don't need to.
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post #625 of 1309
3/19/11 at 12:24pm
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Originally Posted by whiteboy714 View Post

So the 3d tvs like a samsung plasma for example can convert 2d to 3d. Does nvidia 3dtv play do anything that my tv can't do?

Like is it better and making stuff 3d? Trying to figure this all out before I spend a bunch of money I don't need to.

NVidia 3D TVPlay is an activation key and needed for new generation 3D TVs to work with files and games over nVidia cards; that's all.
It is not a player and it is not able to do what your TV does.
As for 2D to fake 3D conversation, PDVD, TMT and WinDVD does...
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post #626 of 1309
3/19/11 at 2:13pm
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Originally Posted by ricabullah View Post

NVidia 3D TVPlay is an activation key and needed for new generation 3D TVs to work with files and games over nVidia cards; that's all.
It is not a player and it is not able to do what your TV does.
As for 2D to fake 3D conversation, PDVD, TMT and WinDVD does...

Oh I see, sounds like another way to gouge a customer when you already advertise a card can do 3d.

I wonder if its locked to a card, or if you could upgrade and still use the code.

Sorry but let me ask you one more question maybe I can be a little clearer.

I see this on the 3dtv site
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Converts your standard PC games into 3D so you can play over 500 PC games in stunning 3D environments, such StarCraft® II: Wings of Liberty, Mafia® II, and Call of Duty® Black Ops.

My question is, is this essentially doing what my tv can already do? Making fake 3d from 2d games? Or is the card able to do something different/better?

Thanks a lot.
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post #627 of 1309
3/19/11 at 2:55pm
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Originally Posted by whiteboy714 View Post

Oh I see, sounds like another way to gouge a customer when you already advertise a card can do 3d.

I wonder if its locked to a card, or if you could upgrade and still use the code.

Sorry but let me ask you one more question maybe I can be a little clearer.

I see this on the 3dtv site

My question is, is this essentially doing what my tv can already do? Making fake 3d from 2d games? Or is the card able to do something different/better? Thanks a lot.

No it does the same fake 3D. No way to convert any 2D to 3D unless shooting the video as 3D stereoscopic originally.
Clash of the Titans 3D is a sample fake 3D btw.
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post #628 of 1309
3/19/11 at 4:07pm
Ok thanks then I guess I don't need it.
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post #629 of 1309
3/19/11 at 4:15pm
OK, it's up to you but we were speaking on real 3D watching ways over HTPCs.
It's not related with any brand of VGA card or anything else.
FYI.
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post #630 of 1309
3/19/11 at 5:27pm
Actually, 3D gaming is entirely different from 'fake' 3d movies and the 2D->3D mode on your TV. Since it's rendering the visuals real time, they can have a second image rendered as well for 'true' 3D. It's more like how Pixar was able to re-render Toy Story 1 and 2 in 3D than it is like Clash of the Titans doing a post-process conversion or the 3D conversion mode on your TV.
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