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post #211 of 325
7/31/10 at 8:42pm
I am new to plasma and the LG 42PJ350 is my first set. I have direct tv and on some stations I get white at the top of the screen .. Most stations are fine and the picture encompasses the whole display.. Does anyone know what the white is at the top of some of these channels? or how to fix? sorry for being vague not sure how else to describe
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post #212 of 325
8/10/10 at 8:56am
OK - Just bought LG 42PJ350 the other night for my bedroom and love it thus far. This is a secondary TV and will get little use. Mainly at night and the occasional movie during the day. From what I read here its best to use burn-in DVD. I DL the ISO file and used DVD shrink/decrypter to burn a copy but doesn't play in my Panasonic DVD player.

- Is there a specific way to unpack the zip file to burn it correctly?
- Do I need to run TV in Zoom mode for 100+ hours to avoid IR?
- Anyone have settings to run on this TV for optimum viewing?

Thanks in Advance
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post #213 of 325
8/12/10 at 8:56pm
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Originally Posted by roach64 View Post

I am new to plasma and the LG 42PJ350 is my first set. I have direct tv and on some stations I get white at the top of the screen .. Most stations are fine and the picture encompasses the whole display.. Does anyone know what the white is at the top of some of these channels? or how to fix? sorry for being vague not sure how else to describe

This is normally seen when you have your aspect ration to "Just Scan" all you need do is toggle it to 'set by default' or '16x9'. The white line or other anomalies @ the top of screen is normal. The just scan is a true 1:1 pixel mapping which gets rid of the overscan, but on some channels you get the white things @ top. I have DirecTV too, and have noticed it on my pj350, as well as my last year's LG50PQ30.
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post #214 of 325
8/16/10 at 10:01am
Well, after about a month of bliss with my new TV (after returning two defective Samsung C450's) I noticed a stuck blue subpixel on the PJ350

This is an issue it would be possible for me to live with (though I constantly look for it), most of the time I sit at a distance where it is unnoticable. Anyone have any advice or experience dealing with LG warranty issues? Any luck getting a replacement set for a single stuck pixel?
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post #215 of 325
8/16/10 at 10:34am
probably not. depends how much it bothers you. which picture is better the c450 or pj350?
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post #216 of 325
8/16/10 at 1:48pm
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Originally Posted by motogp View Post

probably not. depends how much it bothers you. which picture is better the c450 or pj350?

I think I am at least going to call a tech out and see if I can get a replacement, might as well...

I think I posted my thoughts on the picture in this thread, but if not...

Overall, I give the nod to the c450, but I think the LG has more accurate color; the C450 had better black levels. I've also had to adjust my settings on the LG quite a bit during break in to keep things nice, so the verdict may still be out on which ends up being better. Both are really great (especially at the price point).
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post #217 of 325
8/16/10 at 2:11pm
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Originally Posted by c-notes View Post

I think I am at least going to call a tech out and see if I can get a replacement, might as well...

I think I posted my thoughts on the picture in this thread, but if not...

Overall, I give the nod to the c450, but I think the LG has more accurate color; the C450 had better black levels. I've also had to adjust my settings on the LG quite a bit during break in to keep things nice, so the verdict may still be out on which ends up being better. Both are really great (especially at the price point).

Have you tried running some pixar CGI movie, a few times, to see if that might get the blue pixel unstuck?

Some people have reported that has done the trick for them. Finding Nemo, or some title with a lot of blue CGI scenes might be worth trying.
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post #218 of 325
8/16/10 at 6:18pm
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Originally Posted by ACE'S FULL View Post

OK - Just bought LG 42PJ350 the other night for my bedroom and love it thus far. This is a secondary TV and will get little use. Mainly at night and the occasional movie during the day. From what I read here its best to use burn-in DVD. I DL the ISO file and used DVD shrink/decrypter to burn a copy but doesn't play in my Panasonic DVD player.

- Is there a specific way to unpack the zip file to burn it correctly?
- Do I need to run TV in Zoom mode for 100+ hours to avoid IR?
- Anyone have settings to run on this TV for optimum viewing?

Thanks in Advance

Can anyone help me with the above question?
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post #219 of 325
8/16/10 at 6:25pm
i been using my 350 for everything. i live orbiter, on. it must help alot!
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post #220 of 325
8/16/10 at 6:39pm
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Originally Posted by PrimeTime View Post

Funny thing about swiveling stands. Samsung has them for years, LG introduces them a year or so ago, Panasonic doesn't have them. But this year...

...Samsung suddenly drops the swiveling stand, LG continues it, and Panasonic introduces it (saw it on a G2 in a store).

I hate the swiveling stands, too wobbly.
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post #221 of 325
8/16/10 at 6:48pm
the stand on mine is stable!
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post #222 of 325
8/17/10 at 2:56am
Hi everybody, I'm a new owner of this tv, I have a panasonic g10 and this one is for the bedroom.

My impressions so far:

Black level is not as good as my g10, but for the price I'm quiet happy.

Buzzing sound can only be heard if you are less than 1 feet from the tv. In my bedroom I'm sitting at 10 feet and even at night with the window closed I can't hear a thing.

Resolution is one my main issue with this tv, the 50 inch model has a better resolution but the 42 I own with 1024x768 is quiet limited for hd content.
If you look closely in the picture you can see the pixels are quiet big compared to a full hd panel, I guess this is expected for an hd ready plasma.

My xbox via hdmi defaults to 1360x768 wich is the resolution the tv reports in edid but I think the native resolution is 1024x768. I'm thinking about buying the vga cable and setting the resolution to 1024x768 and widescreen aspect ratio.

My computer is connected with a 1024x768 resolution and I use boxee wich allows me to make that resolution widescreen to watch all my content. Games are played using either 1024x768 if the games has an aspect ratio independent of the resolution or 1360x768 if it's tied. At 10 feet if you crank up AA and AF games looks good even if a higher resolution would be welcome.

And the best part of the tv is sd content with dvb, this looks much better than my pana, the lower resolution and good deinterlacing this tv has helps a lot and sd tv becomes watchable again.

Overall for the price I would say this is a good device but if you have room and money I would go for the 50 inch as it has a better resolution for hd content.
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post #223 of 325
8/17/10 at 9:02am
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Originally Posted by greenland View Post

Have you tried running some pixar CGI movie, a few times, to see if that might get the blue pixel unstuck?

Some people have reported that has done the trick for them. Finding Nemo, or some title with a lot of blue CGI scenes might be worth trying.

HA, if you only knew...my daughter is three and Finding Nemo and A Bugs Life are on all the time up there, pretty much all the TV is used for. So far the bright blue won't go away, but maybe I should run it on repeat for a while and see what happens...Thanks for the advice.
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post #224 of 325
8/19/10 at 2:19pm
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Originally Posted by ACE'S FULL View Post

OK - Just bought LG 42PJ350 the other night for my bedroom and love it thus far. This is a secondary TV and will get little use. Mainly at night and the occasional movie during the day. From what I read here its best to use burn-in DVD. I DL the ISO file and used DVD shrink/decrypter to burn a copy but doesn't play in my Panasonic DVD player.

- Is there a specific way to unpack the zip file to burn it correctly?
- Do I need to run TV in Zoom mode for 100+ hours to avoid IR?
- Anyone have settings to run on this TV for optimum viewing?

Thanks in Advance

Anyone home? Advise?
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post #225 of 325
8/22/10 at 11:35am
1) Where can I see the firmware version of my 42PJ350?

2) Where can I get newer firmwares, if they exist?
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post #226 of 325
8/22/10 at 12:27pm
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Originally Posted by elcaras View Post

Hi everybody, I'm a new owner of this tv, I have a panasonic g10 and this one is for the bedroom.

My impressions so far:

Black level is not as good as my g10, but for the price I'm quiet happy.

Buzzing sound can only be heard if you are less than 1 feet from the tv. In my bedroom I'm sitting at 10 feet and even at night with the window closed I can't hear a thing.

Resolution is one my main issue with this tv, the 50 inch model has a better resolution but the 42 I own with 1024x768 is quiet limited for hd content.
If you look closely in the picture you can see the pixels are quiet big compared to a full hd panel, I guess this is expected for an hd ready plasma.

My xbox via hdmi defaults to 1360x768 wich is the resolution the tv reports in edid but I think the native resolution is 1024x768. I'm thinking about buying the vga cable and setting the resolution to 1024x768 and widescreen aspect ratio.

My computer is connected with a 1024x768 resolution and I use boxee wich allows me to make that resolution widescreen to watch all my content. Games are played using either 1024x768 if the games has an aspect ratio independent of the resolution or 1360x768 if it's tied. At 10 feet if you crank up AA and AF games looks good even if a higher resolution would be welcome.

And the best part of the tv is sd content with dvb, this looks much better than my pana, the lower resolution and good deinterlacing this tv has helps a lot and sd tv becomes watchable again.

Overall for the price I would say this is a good device but if you have room and money I would go for the 50 inch as it has a better resolution for hd content.

You would only notice the difference in resolution if you're sitting too close. You really don't see anymore detail on 1080p sets unless you're super close or on a huge screen.

PC gaming on the other hand is different as the main advantage is resolution, but even still some 720p plasmas willl accept 1080p and just scale it.
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post #227 of 325
8/22/10 at 12:41pm
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Originally Posted by MarkTO View Post

The input lag by connection type should be:
-50ms for RGB (VGA)
-60ms for HDMI
-85ms for component
-85ms for composite
-20ms for the built in DTV tuner

The above values are the default service menu audio delay settings.

There are two service menus and to get into them you have to use a special service remote or add the IR signal to your programmable remote. See the middle of this thread http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=10999. In addition there is a password which is 0000.

Here are the options found in the service menu:
Code:
MODEL             : 42PJ550-UD
S/W VER           V3.05.0          Sensor      V3.00(0x58)
UTT               : 204
ADC CAL.
                  RGB : OK
                  YPbPr(SD) : OK 
                  YPbPr(HD) : OK
EDID : RGB(0) HDMI(1:0 2:0 3:0)
-----------------------------------------------------------
0.  TOOL OPTION              :      4
1.  AREA OPTION              :      CANADA
2.  POWER OFF HISTORY
2.  AUTO TEST
4.  BAUD RATE                       9600
5.  AUDIO EQ                        ON
6.  Bass EQ                         ON
7.  CHANNEL MUTE                    ON
8.  SYNC LEVEL
9.  DTV SNR
10. POWER ERROR HISTORY


0.  ADC CALIBRATION
1.  ADC ADJUST
2.  SUB B/C ADJUST
3.  W/B ADJUST
4.  EDID D/L
5.  2HOUR OFF               :   ON
6.  UART DOWNLOAD
7.  MODULE CONTROL
8.  DEBUG MODE              :   OFF
9.  15Min Forced Off        :   ON
10. Phase Noise Control     :   OFF
11. 1MIN TIMER CONTROL      :   OFF
12. Lip Sync Adjust(HDMI1)  :   60
13. DVI/HDMI Switch         :   OFF
14. PLL Tracking Speed      :   0
15. Touch Sensitivity Setting
16. Over Modulation Control :   1
By changing the value for option '0. Tool Option' you can change the model of your PJ series plasma. If you change a 42" model plasma to a 50" model the display will become zoomed in since the 50" and 42" sets have slightly different native resolutions.

The other settings I found useful are '9. DTV SNR' to see the over the air signal strength and the aforementioned '12. Lip Sync Adjust' which is adjustable for each unique input.

that link is to a different model !
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post #228 of 325
8/22/10 at 8:27pm
does anyone know if the optical output passes 5.1 or just 2.0?

also are there any pro calibration settings anywhere, i can't seem to find any.

thanks
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post #229 of 325
8/22/10 at 10:07pm
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Originally Posted by Imho4ep View Post

does anyone know if the optical output passes 5.1 or just 2.0?

AFAIK, this TV is the same as most others in that regard -- 5.1 for ATSC, but pass-through from external sources is 2.0.
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post #230 of 325
8/22/10 at 10:18pm
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Originally Posted by ACE'S FULL View Post

OK - Just bought LG 42PJ350 the other night for my bedroom and love it thus far. This is a secondary TV and will get little use. Mainly at night and the occasional movie during the day. From what I read here its best to use burn-in DVD. I DL the ISO file and used DVD shrink/decrypter to burn a copy but doesn't play in my Panasonic DVD player.

- Is there a specific way to unpack the zip file to burn it correctly?
- Do I need to run TV in Zoom mode for 100+ hours to avoid IR?
- Anyone have settings to run on this TV for optimum viewing?

Thanks in Advance

My personal opinion is that keeping your TV on for X hundred hours for a "break-in period" is pointless and idiotic. And as far as "avoiding IR" is concerned -- good luck. Did you mean avoid (temporary) IR or avoid (permanent) burn-in? You have no hope of avoiding IR on one of these TVs.

ETA: Go Cards
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post #231 of 325
8/29/10 at 2:41pm
Purchased the 42" model of this TV back in June for $449.99. Got it at PC Richards in New Jersey. They give great discounts to Firefighters and Police Officers. Anyways, this TV is being used in a secondary bedroom and for the price I paid it is an excellent television. Great picture, although it does not compete with my recently purchased Sharp Lc46le810un. Great TV for the price!
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post #232 of 325
8/30/10 at 10:29am
I purchased the 42PJ350 last week & im pretty happy with it so far. Im in my 100hr break in period for now... just switched to cinema mode & turned everything down to 50%. Im trying to avoid 4:3... I guess it's okay during commercial breaks for a few- As long as the program is full screen. I have been watching NBC/ABC/FOX/CBS & I have not seen any burn in. I guess that's what the orbiter is for... I do have that on.

The picture is not all that great right now as the setting are 50% everything. After about 100-150hrs or so... I will probably use these setting...



What do you guys think of these setting I got from plasma tv buying guide.
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post #233 of 325
9/25/10 at 11:44am
Picked up the 50PJ550 (Canadian version of pj350) yesterday. I have a question about the power savings mode. I have it set to "Intellisensor" settings, with contrast 85 and brightness 50. This doesn't seem too bright, but when I turn off power savigns there's a huge difference in brightness. Are these settings okay with power savings on, or should I turn off power savings and lower the contrast? Are you guys using the power savings mode? I'm going to run the burn-in DVD later today, and don't want to kill my baby
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post #234 of 325
9/25/10 at 12:31pm
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Originally Posted by TranceSpeeder View Post

I purchased the 42PJ350 last week & im pretty happy with it so far. Im in my 100hr break in period for now... just switched to cinema mode & turned everything down to 50%. Im trying to avoid 4:3... I guess it's okay during commercial breaks for a few- As long as the program is full screen. I have been watching NBC/ABC/FOX/CBS & I have not seen any burn in. I guess that's what the orbiter is for... I do have that on.

The picture is not all that great right now as the setting are 50% everything. After about 100-150hrs or so... I will probably use these setting...



What do you guys think of these setting I got from plasma tv buying guide.

those settings are quite good. I like cinema mode though! I turn down the warmth to 24 red. turn backlight to high, lower the brightness to 36, reduce sharpness to 30, in turn on edge enhancer. also turn dynamic contrast on low, color gamut standard, & gamma medium, & dynamic color high, as well as noise reduction. I get some weird glowing effect when I use PTBG's.

I love this tv for what I paid!
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post #235 of 325
10/1/10 at 11:20am
Hi all:

I've been playing around with the hdmi audio playback of my 50" plasma TV using a vista pc with nvidia's 8600GS video card.

The tv is a zenith z50pj240/ rebadged LG50PJ350.

I first connected a hdmi cable from the pc's video card to my tv's hdmi 1.

Then I connected a digital cable from the spdif out from the motherboard (it's an ecs 945gct-m3) to the spdif in on the 8600gs video card.

Doing this I was able to get audio from the tv, but the weird thing is, the hdmi audio is intermittent. Comes in and out and sometimes distorted.

I tried playing back a dvd movie from the pc, and the sounds would stop briefly every 3~4 seconds, then continues.

I found that my mobo uses Realtek ALC655 6-channel audio CODEC for regular 3mm audio connection, and a Realtek ALC883 7.1 Channel High Definition Audio codec for the digital audio.

This is really bothering me. Does anyone have any fix?
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post #236 of 325
10/20/10 at 9:28pm
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Originally Posted by MarkTO View Post

The input lag by connection type should be:
-50ms for RGB (VGA)
-60ms for HDMI
-85ms for component
-85ms for composite
-20ms for the built in DTV tuner

The above values are the default service menu audio delay settings.

There are two service menus and to get into them you have to use a special service remote or add the IR signal to your programmable remote. See the middle of this thread http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=10999. In addition there is a password which is 0000.

Here are the options found in the service menu:
Code:
MODEL             : 42PJ550-UD
S/W VER           V3.05.0          Sensor      V3.00(0x58)
UTT               : 204
ADC CAL.
                  RGB : OK
                  YPbPr(SD) : OK 
                  YPbPr(HD) : OK
EDID : RGB(0) HDMI(1:0 2:0 3:0)
-----------------------------------------------------------
0.  TOOL OPTION              :      4
1.  AREA OPTION              :      CANADA
2.  POWER OFF HISTORY
2.  AUTO TEST
4.  BAUD RATE                       9600
5.  AUDIO EQ                        ON
6.  Bass EQ                         ON
7.  CHANNEL MUTE                    ON
8.  SYNC LEVEL
9.  DTV SNR
10. POWER ERROR HISTORY


0.  ADC CALIBRATION
1.  ADC ADJUST
2.  SUB B/C ADJUST
3.  W/B ADJUST
4.  EDID D/L
5.  2HOUR OFF               :   ON
6.  UART DOWNLOAD
7.  MODULE CONTROL
8.  DEBUG MODE              :   OFF
9.  15Min Forced Off        :   ON
10. Phase Noise Control     :   OFF
11. 1MIN TIMER CONTROL      :   OFF
12. Lip Sync Adjust(HDMI1)  :   60
13. DVI/HDMI Switch         :   OFF
14. PLL Tracking Speed      :   0
15. Touch Sensitivity Setting
16. Over Modulation Control :   1
By changing the value for option '0. Tool Option' you can change the model of your PJ series plasma. If you change a 42" model plasma to a 50" model the display will become zoomed in since the 50" and 42" sets have slightly different native resolutions.

The other settings I found useful are '9. DTV SNR' to see the over the air signal strength and the aforementioned '12. Lip Sync Adjust' which is adjustable for each unique input.

Hmm… I just bought the 42PJ550 as well.

Does that 60 ms HDMI setting set a 60 ms delay for the internal speaker output? ie. 60 ms is innate, so if you're using external speakers, you're in trouble?

I'm wondering if film mode might actually increase lag slightly. I might be imagining it but I get the impression that turning off film mode makes lag less noticeable. Anyone try this? I'll note that the Game setting turns off film mode. I'm currently running a quick and dirty Expert mode setting, but with film mode turned off.

Have you tried checking the service menu when the TV is in game mode? I'd be curious to see if the HDMI Lip Sync Adjust option changes value.

Is it possible to do a full calibration for Blu-ray viewing within the game setting? What else does the game setting actually do?
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post #237 of 325
10/21/10 at 8:00am
A few points about the 42PJ550.

1) Out of the box, the image quality is TERRIBLE. I stuck in some Blu-ray and HD DVD discs and it was awful. One of the worst I've seen out of the box. It was stuck on Vivid or something and contrast was high enough to blow out all details. Some of the settings have an Edge Enhancement "feature" too. What the…?

However, after a quick and dirty adjustment partially just using my eye and using the LG Wizard feature, it's much better now. However, I will need to break out the Digital Video Essentials disc to do a proper calibration. The contrast and detail is OK now, but the colours need some tweaking. Fortunately, there are a lot of adjustment options, and more than with other TVs. Plus, it's independent for each input as far as I can tell.

Hopefully the calibration from my HD DVD Digital Video Essentials will translate over to the other HDMI inputs OK. The cool thing is that if you use a built-in video mode setting it lists that setting name, but you can still modify it, and it will display it as the name with "(User)" after it if modified. Very informative. There are two "Expert" setting options too, which allow you to change lots and lots of stuff. It almost feels like a service menu.

2) It's a mirror. Last night it was fine, because I generally don't keep a lot of lights on when watching TV. This morning however, the glare from the windows was very prominent. That said, while my previous matte-screen LCD didn't have the glare, it was still difficult to watch during the day, just not quite as bad.

3) I didn't perceive any input lag on direct DTV standard def channels (bypassing the cable box). I only thought I noticed something when I was dealing with HD over HDMI but like I said it seems that turning off all processing corrects any perceived lag. I don't have any real way of measuring it though. I've just been using Blu-ray and HD DVD titles. eg. Hammering scene at the end of Batman Begins.
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post #238 of 325
11/6/10 at 7:25pm
Hello guys, maybe you can help me,
I recently got 42" PJ350R, so no Picture wizard or ISF..
I live in usrael and it came from official supplier, anyway
may you post the picture wizard settigs? (I mostly intrested in the "recomended" values")
many thanx all you guys.
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post #239 of 325
11/7/10 at 1:32am
Any help? here is GMT+2 anyway, but again I ask people who got the EU or US model with picture wizard future to write here the recomended values apply on picture settings, just want to try it out thx again
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post #240 of 325
11/11/10 at 9:39am
Just picked up the 50PJ350 yesterday at Fry's. They have a screaming deal on it that ends today. In the price range of what you typically see the 42". I was going to get the Samsung PN50c450, which has almost identical specs, but they were out of it.

This is my first HDTV, coming from a 27" CRT, so my reviews won't mean much. I agree the original settings are not good. I messed with them a little and it definately looks better. HD content looks good. Regular DVD movies lookd good. Some of the SD channels don't looks so great but that's to be expected. I like the internal antennas since all I have is basic cable - no box. I get a few more channels than I did before. The only down side is that my two daughters just discovered Barney on a new channel. I hated Barney on my old CRT - I really hate him on a 50" HDTV!!! At least I don't have a sound system to hear those annoying songs!

I'm not clear on the break in period for plasmas. Should I have it on some specific settings during breakin period?

I'll try to post additional thoughts as I use it more. I'm going to try streaming netflix through my laptop to the TV using VGA. We'll see how well that works.
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