The Official Samsung PNxxC6500, PNxxC7000, and PNxxC8000 Owner's Discussion Thread - Page 72

Quick Update. Called Crutchfield, asked them what falls under their exchange program, then after hearing it, and thinking its only been 5 days since delivered, told they guy my situation. He said he too would be upset if his brand new tv came with a stuck pixel. So they are sending me a new unit and sending back my old one. Free of charge. Lets hope this one doesn't have any problems.

there goes 5 days of breaking it in

Has anyone had trouble connecting their Samsung blu-ray player to the internet? Mine finds my access point and I enter the correct password...then it takes a while and tells me my access point can't be found. That makes zero sense. I reset my router completely and changed the password...still no luck. Anyone experience this?

I have a Netgear Rangemax router it's not a wireless-N router).

bD-Wise is how the blu-ray was made to look
you can turn it off within one of your samsung tv menu's, settings i think

Nevermind! I had to change the router from mixed mode to "G" only, and change the channel from 6 to 11. Now it works...

sorry but it does
have you tested using 1.4 hdmi
the tv only does anything on 3d right if using high speend hdmi 1.3a/1.4
if you not using that hdmi then it thinks you not going to be using 3d on that hdmi
this may be a firmware problems but it does it on all the tv's
i.e. if you are using hdmi on anything, it needs to be high speed, or its not going to work right for 3d and that includes 2d-> 3d conversion
someone had a xbox using a 3d game and it only worked right when using 1.4

Peace of mind is priceless......fingers crossed.
Keep us posted on the new unit.

Anyone here useing a Samsung BD-C6900 with their Samsung TV?

I posted a 3D on screen menu tip here and noted that 1011.1 firmware is out for the BD-C6900.

You can read about it here;

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...5#post18660355

Can anyone confirm or deny the issue raised by Consumer Reports? Just want to make sure it's an LCD only problem...



Thanks for the responses guys. This is valuable info for me, but I think I may not have worded the question right. I know the viewing angle for plasma is just about limitless...what I'm asking is if the glasses go completely dark if you use them while laying down. While I was not able to 'lay down' in the best buy I went to I did tilt my head as much as possible...and the glasses get dimmer and dimmer. In fact I took them off my head and held them almost at arms length and turned them slowly until the were at a 90 degree angle (same as if you were laying down and the glasses went almost completely dark. When you slowly tilt them back up to what would be normal viewing is sitting up the image slowly returned. I first read about this on the Consumer Reports blog & at the time they didn't have a sammy plasma to test, only LCD. They did say however that the issue was not there while looking at the panny plasma. Can one of you lucky owners test this out for me on the plasma? Here is the link that talks about the problem on the LED/LCD variants...
http://blogs.consumerreports.org/ele...k-three-d.html


Thanks again for all of the info guys!

Dark knight , Braveheart, Star Trek (2009) ,Bugs life, Troy, Kindom of heaven are some of my favorites.

the Samsungs Plasmas are just like Panasonic Plasmas. if you tilt your head while watching 3D, like you would lying down on the sofa, The 3D stays the same, and it DOES NOT get darker. hope this helps

Calilife17 you are a life saver! I know I'll be picking this one up then! Screw the panny...no 2D to 3D is kinda a deal breaker for me. Just a heads up to gamers...The Batman Arham Asylum GOTY Edition has TrioViz 3D and comes with a pair of glasses. After playing this I assume it's what the 2D to 3D conversion will look like, if not better...and I was still partially blown away. The way it adds depth is amazing for gaming which is why the 2D to 3D thing is important to me and why I'm getting a Sammy. The Vizio 72" model is great feature wize...but it's not going to have 2D to 3D...plus knowing them the August release date could possibly turn into December lol.

I think this is totally incorrect. Why would HDMI cable matter for xbox / tivo / etc for 2d - > 3d conversion. It's the tv doing all the work on it's end, not the device sending to the tv.

Sorry to be so redundant but I'm wondering if you guys purchasing these tvs are buying extended warraties or not? I'm about to buy and am having a difficult time making up my mind as I typically don't buy into ew protection, however, since it would see that there are so many known issues with tv's, i wonder if it would be a good idea to buy one.

Nevermind. I went and checked out the C8000 tonight, and played with the MJC. In a word, it sucks. Now I know why everyone complains about it and scrambles to shut it off on the C7000's. Sasmung's AMP on their high-end LCD's and LED's works MUCH better. The frame interp is too aggressive and causes a ton of artifacts, and you only get the options of standard and smooth. Nice try, but no cigar, Samsung. Maybe next year you will get a clue and offer a customizable AMP that allows one to adjust the level of (de)judder like you offer on your LCD's/LED's.

IMO when making a purchase over $1k I usually pick up the warranty for piece of mind. YMMV but I know it came in handy covering the power board & bulb replacement on my 56" sammy dlp. I know we don't have to worry about bulb replacement or anything, but who knows what can happen. I know I'm getting one. The Square Trade warranty is $240 for the 63C8000 plasma I'm picking up. I think I have a coupon code from them that takes off something since I've bought from them in the past. My advice would be to get a warranty for a small item from them and to get the code. I think it was 15-30% off...I can't remember. The pric I quoted is without any type of rebate for a 3yr extension so that should be 4 years of total coverage.

Expand more on this plz. What is it exactly that makes the C8000 so great that the B550/C550 are not even close? It certainly is not the contrast. The black levels have been observed to be no different than they were last year and Chad B's measurements confirmed it. I understand that 2010 models have the ability to adjust the gamma in more increments. But thats a very small detail considering that the 09 Sammy plasmas already had very accurate color and shadow detailing. A very good case can be made that Sammy is using the same old panels they did last combined with a few different software tweaks. Other than 3D, why do you think that the C8000 is so far ahead of the B550/B850?

Just got my panel from Amazon, delivered via Pilot shipping. Heavily cracked in both upper corners, no picture whatsoever. Extra annoying 'cause the shipper showed up before their delivery window when only our babysitter was here, and they didn't unbox and turn on the set to check (unlike a previous shipment by CEVA where they confirmed everything before leaving). So now I have to arrange to be home twice more, once to ship this one back and another to get the replacement.

Curious how Amazon will respond to this. Anybody know their policies (i.e. will they expedite the replacement?). FWIW, this one was sold directly from Amazon, rather than a resale partner.

ugh

The movie Beowulf was amazing in 3D when it was in theaters. Many of the scenes are made wow you with things popping right out of the screen. 2D to 3D conversion would make it look amazing.

Panasonic tc-p50vt25 vs Samaung pn50c8000 comparison
When will start And who can start!!

so I haven't seen anyone answer this yet

gonna ask 1 last time as today only the 50c6400 is on sale at futureshop in Canada and I'm very much considering returning my 50pk550 and buying it


how are the black levels? are they as bad as the c7000 or as good as the b650? anyone know?

Reallllly late review of the 50c7000 that we've had in the store for quite some time:

Black Bevels:
Pretty deep, immersive. Cannot get a full review because we have bright lights on, with one on almost directly above the set. However, when we first open the store and it is relatively dim (like a normal home with natural light), the blacks seem to disappear with the bezel surrounding it. Very good also considering it is almost always set to dynamic (torch mode) during the day. the set also sits next to the panny g20, and ive switched the demo movies back and forth between the two and have been pleasantly surprised with the c7000. I still give the edge only slightly to the g20.

3d:
2d to 3d conversion was poor (personally), especially after seeing the native 3d panasonic displays. However, some sort of depth is definitely visible while watching cgi or cartoon footage. Personally wouldn't use this feature much. Full 3d setup however, is simply breathtaking. No ghosting, or crosstalk between the images. This was very similar to the Panasonic setup that featured great blacks and superb motion. Poor execution with the rechargeable glasses however (we've broken four sets already). Opt for the battery operated ones, much more comfortable.

Issues:
First: buzzing. None heard, none noticed. Again, when we open the store, quiet and no issues.

Second: burn-in. we have the movie transformers set up to play everyday. If I get to the store late (10am) and the set is already on at the main menu (presumably for 30-1hour), I do see partial burn-in of the menu items. Granted, this happens almost everyday. Somebody's dumb-*ss in the warehouse gets the set on but doesn't run the movie. Uggghhh. Light burn-in that I have removed by using the pixel-scrolling function (or just playing the movie). Nothing permanent, but still annoying.

Third: 2d-3d conversion: Oddly, i get that same image burned in I just spoke about when I turn on the 2d-3d conversion. Doesn't matter what scene of the movie i'm in, I get faint images of main menu. I also notice the black levels rise dramatically when i switch it on, regardless of what mode i'm in (dynamic, standard, etc.). Again, I was unimpressed with the conversion and would most likely use it only with cgi/cartoons.
Fourth: Heat. The set runs alot cooler than the b850 we had in the exact same spot! Verry happy about this one! It does get quite warm to the touch, but not scorching hot or unbearable like last year's models. I'm gonna have no problems replacing my 42x on the wall with this one.

Conclusion: I've been waiting for this tv... ever since the b850/860's went away. I currently have three panny plasma's (older sets, px60, pz85, etc), and would love to switch to Samsung over just because of how thin the c7000 is. My main concern was the rising black levels of the panny's, as well as the overall design. I'm sick of all the LED's that my friend's have been buying and its time to show them you can get a superb (superior!!) picture with a plasma that's just as thin. Gonna pair this with a klipsch/yamaha package for my birthday coming up on my discount so its gonna be kooooo!

Hope this review helps, I'm not really a noob, I just read and lurk. Also not an expert as alot of you are but I do get quite a bit of hands on time with alot of the products.

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Good idea. which end of the caable should be at the TV?

the male end

I owned the TC-P54VT25 and took it back for a PN58C8000. Is there anything in particular you want to know?

Alot of folks are waiting for reviews on samsung's flagship PN58C8000 vs panasonic's flagship TC-P54VT25. There have been some 7000 series reviews floating around, buts that's not the equal to the panasonic 25 series. The 8000 series is (atleast when dealing with black level).

If you do start it, it probably belongs in a separate thread.

Hi, I did not buy the PN63C8000 (Waiting on my replacement PN58C8000 now), But I did buy my PN58B860 from them as well as many other High End equipment in the past and have always been impressed with those guys. If you call them you can get an even better Price Quote. They were also very instrumental with dealing with Samsung over the bad panel issue on my PN58B860 set. They stay after Samsung to do what is right by their customers as far as I can tell.


My 2cents,

Jeff

Quick question for those with the c8000, is the screen black compared to the c7000? I have only seen the c7000 in person and noticed the screen was quite gray. Is the contrast and black level of the c8000 better? The lcd's that were next to it were much blacker, albeit only with the set off.

Also the c8000 has an ethernet input right? Didn't see it in the manual (maybe missed it) or on Samsungs website.

(Sorry if this has already been talking about, been reading too many threads to keep them straight)

Oh, one last question, of the several stores I have messed with samsungs the remote seems to have a very narrow range, almost has to be pointed directly at the tv, is it better in a home environment or even better with a universal remote like the mx-500, that I have?

Thanks, and sorry for not quite a quick question.

Has anyone converted from the LED 8000 to the plasma 8000 or compared side-by-side and willing to comment on their experiences? I have the UN8000 (LED) currently and the picture is good, but I am having a hard time getting past the viewing angle washout. My problem is I have a very bright room, my wife does not like to watch in the dark, and the LED has no problem producing a bright picture and maintaining its blacks in this env. Does anyone have the PN8000 in a bright room and can comment on how well its picture quality holds up? I have two more weeks on my 30 days with the UN8000 and just trying to decide if I should give the plasma a shot. Thanks

IMO.. There's too much going on in this thread. I feel its time for dedicated/seperate 6000 series, 7000 series, and 8000 series threads. It will be a much better experiance for everyone that way.

I agree, I was thinking the same thing.