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post #61 of 184
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I'm still here! Sorry, I took the opportunity to hit he road myself. I went to kentucky for the weekend. But I am back, and she still doesnt know. Its in the gargage in the corner. I didnt lie, I just didnt divulge the information.
I will let her know tomorrow. By then I will have the rest of the money to go get the 8 footer!

plus today is our anniversary. And on the off chance she doesnt take this as well as I am hoping. I dont want it to spoil the night
If I am still here tomorrow, I should be in the clear.
post #62 of 184
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plus today is our anniversary. And on the off chance she doesnt take this as well as I am hoping. I dont want it to spoil the night

Conditions are perfect ... it's Business Time!!

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post #63 of 184
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quick question, have any of you DIYers had a problem with exterior walls not being flush for the drywall? I was fitting a peice around an outlet, and I am not very good at drywall yet anyways. and as I screwed it in, it broke the board.

any ideas
post #64 of 184
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I got the other piece of the bar rail and I have pictures, but my computer at home still is not working properly (thanks to hanes). So as soon as it gets fixed, I will flood this thread with pics. Til then, I still have a few questions.

The bar rail I got is 1 1/2" x 6 1/8" x 6' (and 8'). That depth is not something I really wanted but for the price I couldn't really pass it up. So now I am left to make this work.

My problem is, I designed the bar height to be 42". I didnt realize that the bar rail had to have a layer top, so that changes a few things for me.
I thought I saw someone on another thread mount the rail at a wierd angle.

I dont want to raise the bartop 5". How hard would is be to mount the rail at a different angle, so I only have to put one or to layers underneath the top?
The problem with mounting the rail at a different angle is, I dont think I can still use glue to help attach it,(since it wont really be flat on the surface.

Please help, I am wanting to get started tonight, but I obviously dont want to screw anything up!
post #65 of 184
I'm confused, why would you need to raise the top of the bar 5"?

Does the bar rail you bought sit like the one I mounted, on two pieces of staggered wood?


If so, then you would only need to add one layer of 3/4" top to your existing bar top to mount the rail.
post #66 of 184
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Originally Posted by beach31684 View Post


The bar rail I got is 1 1/2" x 6 1/8" x 6' (and 8'). That depth is not something I really wanted but for the price I couldn't really pass it up. So now I am left to make this work.

My problem is, I designed the bar height to be 42". I didnt realize that the bar rail had to have a layer top, so that changes a few things for me.
I thought I saw someone on another thread mount the rail at a wierd angle.

I dont want to raise the bartop 5". How hard would is be to mount the rail at a different angle, so I only have to put one or to layers underneath the top?
The problem with mounting the rail at a different angle is, I dont think I can still use glue to help attach it,(since it wont really be flat on the surface.

Please help, I am wanting to get started tonight, but I obviously dont want to screw anything up!

I dont see 5" here?? I would add an extra layer of 3/4" ply or mdf to the top so that the rail sits flush so that it can be glued and screwed from UNDERNEATH. I think that the rail without the proper support underneath will only cause you issues down the road.
post #67 of 184
Thread Starter 
I see this is adding some confusion. To eliminate that I will wait to post a picture tonight. (somehow, someway.) I will get the picture on here!
Until then I will not go any further.
post #68 of 184
Yup, I was going to suggest posting a picture (if you can, DOH!) of what you are talking about so we can give you a "professional: opinion.

Regards,

RTROSE
post #69 of 184
Might I make a suggestion?

Maybe you could upload a pic so we could have a better understanding... waahahaha!! just kidding.

Ok, once more. Download/install Google Picasa. Let it search for all your pics. Find the pic you want. Click on the Upload button. Once complete click "View Online". Right-click on the photo while viewing online and click the "Copy whole URL" (I paraphrased that).

Now...post on here as normal and click the Insert Image icon. Paste in the URL address. Voila.

It sounds much more complicated than it actually is...
post #70 of 184
C'mon Beach your makin us "Hoosiers" look bad here!! We ARE in fact computer literate here in the Hoosier state but you surely arent helping our reputation out much now are you?!
post #71 of 184
Thread Starter 
oh come now, ye of little faith. I just spent 4 hrs transfering everything I have to a different computer so I could reformat mine. I am not an idiot, I just play one on pc!

Without further delay

the bar rail against the top

notice the drop length

this is the drop I would like it to have, idealy


sorry about the size, its late and I will fix it later. good night
post #72 of 184
Those pictures are HUGE!! My first thought is DO NOT and I repeat DO NOT install it the way you are holding it on the bar it will NOT be strong enough. You need to add another layer (staggered in) to your bar top to support that rail. After all the rail is meant for people to lean their arms/elbows on an needs to be supported.
post #73 of 184
Iusteve couldn't be more right, those pics are huge!!! JK. Really though, don't mount it like you are holding it.

The existing bar top is where you would rest the bottom of the two right angles on the rail. With the rail sitting like that, it will be obvious what you need to add to the bar top to complete it.

Make sense?
post #74 of 184
Thread Starter 
there, I fixed the sizes. I told you it was late and I was tired!

dont you mean the top of the two right angles?
post #75 of 184
Are you Iusteve's brother?
post #76 of 184
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Originally Posted by heynow^ View Post

are you iusteve's brother?

+1
post #77 of 184
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Originally Posted by beach31684 View Post

there, I fixed the sizes. I told you it was late and I was tired!

dont you mean the top of the two right angles?

I am considering the right angle your hand is on as the top one. Lift the rail straight up and move it back until the bottom right angle is sitting on the existing bar top in the picture. Refer back to my rail, the bottom right angle is sitting on the bottom layer of the bar.
post #78 of 184
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Originally Posted by hanesian View Post

+1

now how is that helpful to the problem at hand? focus people, focus!

As for the answer, I would assume we are since we are all related here in indi... no, wait... thats WV "its all relative, really" lol, just kidding, dont anyone take offense to that.
post #79 of 184
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Originally Posted by mtbvert View Post

I am considering the right angle your hand is on as the top one. Lift the rail straight up and move it back until the bottom right angle is sitting on the existing bar top in the picture. Refer back to my rail, the bottom right angle is sitting on the bottom layer of the bar.

correct. I got cofused by your wording. You are saying add the proper amount of layers and make sure the bottom is mount flush with the right angle.

thats just not what I wanted to hear. now the bar top is going to be much higher than I planned for, and I have to adjust the trim as well.
post #80 of 184
this looks very close to your rail:



The layer in the picture that is shown to be 5/8" is your current bar top.

You'll see that you may need to add two 3/4" layers, but no more.
post #81 of 184
That's a lot of layers....
post #82 of 184
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by mtbvert View Post

this looks very close to your rail:



The layer in the picture that is shown to be 5/8" is your current bar top.

You'll see that you may need to add two 3/4" layers, but no more.

Thats pretty much it, in a nut shell. I guess it just looks worse in real life. My measurements are 1 1/2 x 6 1/8, I will be taking the bar top off here in the next few days. I will have to work quick though, cause the beer faucet will be disconnected!(and we cant have that now can we?!)
post #83 of 184
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Originally Posted by beach31684 View Post

Thats pretty much it, in a nut shell. I guess it just looks worse in real life. My measurements are 1 1/2 x 6 1/8, I will be taking the bar top off here in the next few days. I will have to work quick though, cause the beer faucet will be disconnected!(and we cant have that now can we?!)

Obviously before you do anything you need to relocate the beer tap to keep it in service!! Priorities man!!
post #84 of 184
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Originally Posted by mtbvert View Post

this looks very close to your rail:


Why not add layers under your current bar? Get some ply and build a ledge out from under your current bar top so that it correctly supports the rail as shown above? The top 3/4" in the picture above would be your current bar top, you would add a second layer (3/4" if your rail is like the one above) flush with your bar top (screw and glue it to the bottom of your current bar top), and then add a third layer (5/8" if your rail is like the one above) that extends out to support the rail.
post #85 of 184
That depends on how high his bar is off the floor and how high his stools are? If he is at 42" to top of bar and reduces the distance between the bottom of the bar rail to the top of the chair, it may be a squeeze for the person sitting in the chair. Just a thought.
post #86 of 184
Thread Starter 
So, we have all established that I am a little slow at things, and that it is a trip to be me.

With that said, if you look at my posts, you will notice that most of my posting is done while I'm at work. It just now dawned on me that with my pictures on photobucket, I can access them while I am at work!!!
WHAT A MAROON!

That means I will be posting tons more pictures.

Having said that, here are a few of the additions to the bar that I have "acquired" throughout the process.

these are the glasses my new best friend (that works at coors/miller) gave me!

for those of you that cannot see the image that well, it is a couple Blue Moon pilsners, a few Coors Light/Pacers pints, and two Parelli (I think) glasses.

This beauty here was a gem found on Craigs list and keep the bottles at a chilling 29 degrees (no non-alcoholic drinks in here, they'll freeze), for the low, low price of $30!
post #87 of 184
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Originally Posted by HeyNow^ View Post

That depends on how high his bar is off the floor and how high his stools are? If he is at 42" to top of bar and reduces the distance between the bottom of the bar rail to the top of the chair, it may be a squeeze for the person sitting in the chair. Just a thought.

Luckily, that is not a problem. My only hang up is, I like the height of my bar now and didnt want to make it any taller. But, "It is what it is, right?". I have thought about this for a few nights now and I would rather have a slightly taller bar top than:

A) take the top off and try and evenly shave some of the "foundation" off to offset the height change

or

B) not have the rail at all!! no way jose!
post #88 of 184
Or take the rail you have back and buy a two step (3/4 inch) rail.
post #89 of 184
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by HeyNow^ View Post

Or take the rail you have back and buy a two step (3/4 inch) rail.

are you kidding! for an extra $5 a foot, I'll keep what I got!
I'm not made of money ya know!!

well, its not just that, I really do like the way this looks, I just didnt want to change the height, I dont really like the 2-steps that I have found online. they just dont have the slant I was looking for.

I know, I am picky I want my cake soo I can eat it!
post #90 of 184
Wow, you can post at work? That is pretty cool. I browse AVS sometimes on the lunch hour at work, but I don't post. My employer would frown on such behavior.

That small cooler is pretty sweet that is perfect and great beer drinking temp too, well may be just a smidge too cool but very close to perfect.

Oh since you can access your photobucket account at work why no additional post with photos? (Sorry couldn't resist)

Regards,

RTROSE
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