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VT20 & VT 25 a waste of money? 3D not good for 2010

post #1 of 11
4/14/10 at 8:53pm
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Well i am having a hard time justifying why i should wait for a VT20-VT25 58 inch TV. I just looked online and there is hardly any i say ANY 3D blu-ray discs out. Avatar 3D wont be out until late 2011.

Sounds like i should just pick up a V10 and save 400-700 bucks not getting the VT25 58" and just wait until 2011 V35
What do you think

I just dont see myself picking up a G25 with Floating blacks and no 96hertz

96 hertz makes a difference ..
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post #2 of 11
4/14/10 at 9:02pm
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Originally Posted by CSIG1001 View Post

Well i am having a hard time justifying why i should wait for a VT20-VT25 58 inch TV. I just looked online and there is hardly any i say ANY 3D blu-ray discs out. Avatar 3D wont be out until late 2011.

Sounds like i should just pick up a V10 and save 400-700 bucks not getting the VT25 58" and just wait until 2011 V35
What do you think

I just dont see myself picking up a G25 with Floating blacks and no 96hertz

96 hertz makes a difference ..

"The Kuro is destined to be surpassed, not equaled, in black levels next year... if the roadmap holds up." This is what D-nice has said. Based on that alone I am waiting till next year. I am looking for a tv for some serious Bluray viewing and floating blacks are worse than rising blacks in my opinion.
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post #3 of 11
4/14/10 at 9:06pm
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"The Kuro is destined to be surpassed, not equaled, in black levels next year... if the roadmap holds up." This is what D-nice has said. Based on that alone I am waiting till next year. I am looking for a tv for some serious Bluray viewing and floating blacks are worse than rising blacks in my opinion.


I did own a 58 V10 back in sept 2009 but the stupid was snatched it from me during the divorce.. I paid for it too. ha
So i am thinking just go with a V10 58 " again and be happy with it until late 2011 . I just looked online and there is no good 3d movies out and wont have a good selection until 2011.
What would you do if you had the money?
Just wait a few more months and get the V25 or just pickup a V10 again..
I like the fact that the new V25 has a different anti glare coating and they did away with a pane of glass which drops the weight around 30 lbs . Last years 58V10 was 110lbs w/ stand and this years V25 will be around 87 pounds.
Also floating blacks should not be a issue.. However the raise in black levels could be.
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post #4 of 11
4/14/10 at 9:10pm
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The 3D TV hubub at CES roughly coincided with "Avatar," the highest-grossing theatrical release of all time, hitting theaters in 3D. It seems natural to assume that the inevitable home video release of the 3D HD version of the "Avatar" Blu-ray would coincide with the introduction of new 3D HDTVs, which are slated to appear as early as May. But according to director James Cameron, that Blu-ray won't appear until November.

"It's all right on schedule," said Cameron during a Wall Street Journal interview. "We'll do the Blu-ray and the standard-def DVD April 22nd, that's our plan as of right now, and that'll be pretty much bare bones. And then we'll do a value-added DVD and a 3D Blu-ray in I think November sometime."

Apparently Cameron spoke out of turn. A subsequent update from Fox Home Entertainment denied his release date statement, saying "3D is in the conceptual stage and 'Avatar' will not be out on 3D Blu-ray in November." The studio would not confirm any home video release dates to the Journal, which is owned by News Corp, of which 20th Century Fox, purveyors of "Avatar," is also a division.

Since the Fox denial puts the Avatar 3D Blu-ray release date squarely back into the universe of conjecture, we'll chime in with our own prediction: Cameron is right. Fox will capitalize on the box office momentum to release a "bare-bones" DVD and Blu-ray as quickly as possible, and April 22nd is Earth Day, which dovetails with the film's pro-environment bent. We're guessing both will include a 3D version in the old colored-glasses ("anaglyph") style, like many current Blu-ray and DVD discs, and be mostly bereft of commentaries, special features and collectible figurines.

November will see the full-fledged "Special Collectors Edition in True HD Blu-ray 3D 1080p x2" (or whatever they want to call it), just in time for the holidays, complete with blue body paint (thanks EngadgetHD), Neytiri mask with exclusive blue striped 3D shutter glasses, and a fiber-optic-veined Unobtanium centerpiece that looks like a miniature version of the Ayvitrayä Ramunong. It will also contain 2D and 3D versions of the film on Blu-ray, the latter in the new, full-HD version that utilizes the latest 3D technology, along with plenty of 3D special features. Price TBD.

What's your prediction?
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post #5 of 11
4/14/10 at 9:19pm
I went and took a good look at the VT20 the other day at BB. As much as I hate to say this it looked great to me(not talking about 3D as I really couldn't care less). I liked the styling and the blacks looked very good. Both sets are going to rise and I believe that when they are done rising the VT will have the lower black level. Unfortunately, there is some talk about the VT also have floating blacks. That is something that would be hard to deal with at the price. If I had the money I would get the VT20 and if the floating blacks turn out to be a problem I would return it for the V10.
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post #6 of 11
4/14/10 at 9:41pm
I think it's more of an option of your spending habits and if you can afford to buy a second display next year. For those of us that can only afford to buy a display every so many years, it is a wise choice to take the 3D plunge. 3D content may not me abundant now, but considering the lifespan of the display it is definitely a smart option to take, especially considering the strength that 3D has theatrically, and the fact that if you want to buy a high end display from ANY manufacturer this year, it's going to be a 3D ready display.

Also take into perspective that the 3D is not adding anything to the cost of the panel. It's not 3D being added to the display and driving up the cost, it's the fact the display is a V series ( Panasonic's highest end line ) that ALLOW's it to display in a 3D mode. Even if you go back from Panasonic's road map's from 2008, 3D has always been planned for the 2010 model, before AVATAR's release, before 3D was so successful theatrically, it's on all of Panasonic "ECO Neo PDP" slides, and was expected.

Not to mention the majority of the tech that enables the display to be a 3D display benefits the 2D picture quality. It's not really a waste of money when your buying Panasonic's highest end line of display's, which is the V series.
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post #7 of 11
4/14/10 at 10:24pm
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Originally Posted by I Superman I View Post

I think it's more of an option of your spending habits and if you can afford to buy a second display next year. For those of us that can only afford to buy a display every so many years, it is a wise choice to take the 3D plunge. 3D content may not me abundant now, but considering the lifespan of the display it is definitely a smart option to take, especially considering the strength that 3D has theatrically, and the fact that if you want to buy a high end display from ANY manufacturer this year, it's going to be a 3D ready display.

Also take into perspective that the 3D is not adding anything to the cost of the panel. It's not 3D being added to the display and driving up the cost, it's the fact the display is a V series ( Panasonic's highest end line ) that ALLOW's it to display in a 3D mode. Even if you go back from Panasonic's road map's from 2008, 3D has always been planned for the 2010 model, before AVATAR's release, before 3D was so successful theatrically, it's on all of Panasonic "ECO Neo PDP" slides, and was expected.

Not to mention the majority of the tech that enables the display to be a 3D display benefits the 2D picture quality. It's not really a waste of money when your buying Panasonic's highest end line of display's, which is the V series.

I dont know , i know what your saying about 3d is the new thing, however if the floating blacks come about in the VT series for 2010 i would be disappointed
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post #8 of 11
4/14/10 at 10:29pm
I was underwhelmed with the VT20's 3D. Plus, the glasses seemed to add a whole new factor the the TV-watching equation. A lot of people might not go for it. I mean, those things must cost at least $100 a pop. How many can you afford? 3? 4? Have 5 people over for a movie and you'd have to take turns or draw straws to see who gets to go crosseyed
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post #9 of 11
4/14/10 at 11:07pm
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I was underwhelmed with the VT20's 3D. Plus, the glasses seemed to add a whole new factor the the TV-watching equation. A lot of people might not go for it. I mean, those things must cost at least $100 a pop. How many can you afford? 3? 4? Have 5 people over for a movie and you'd have to take turns or draw straws to see who gets to go crosseyed

Yeah the glasses are 150 dollars each..
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post #10 of 11
4/15/10 at 5:10am
The question is not whether there will be any 3D in the next few months, but in the next few years. I imagine you would keep your TV for at least three years...
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post #11 of 11
4/15/10 at 5:22am
I am looking at it as this being the 1st crack at 3D and as we all know as time goes on it will only get better to the point of no glasses someday but for me 3D is not important so I can and will pass on it and probably go with the V 10 modeal. I look at it as just something else that can go wrong with the tv.
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