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post #151 of 1479
9/9/10 at 2:18pm
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Originally Posted by HDvids4all View Post

Thanks! I've made a few additions and tweaks here and there (Ceton InfiniTV 4 for one), but it all runs beautifully, and looks pretty good doing it too.

Now if I could just find a nice demo disk to add to my online collection...

I'm sure they will be available *somewhere*. Let's wait until this thing is done and we'll go from there.
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post #152 of 1479
9/9/10 at 5:28pm
Guys who author the discs, I have a question. I have a Sony S350 player. It says in teh specs: BD-R/RE Read Compatibility: Yes (BDMV &
BDAV format).

I am assuming this means it'll read a 50GB Re-write disc, but what does the BDMV and BDAV mean? And if you are buring a disc, do I need to tell it to makes the disc a special way? Thanks for the help. Looking fwd to this demo!
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post #153 of 1479
9/9/10 at 7:42pm
Blu-ray allows two basic formats for titles. BD titles authored with menu support are in the BD-MV (Blu-ray Disc Movie) format. BD-MV discs contain audio, video, and other streams in Blu-ray's BD-AV (MPEG-2 TS) Container. In addition, BD-MV discs normally include interactive menus using BD-J (Blu-ray's Java implementation). BD-MV is the format intended to replace standard definition DVD.

More info here: http://www.afterdawn.com/glossary/term.cfm/bd-mv
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post #154 of 1479
9/10/10 at 12:08pm
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This disc is a BDMV disc and should work in most players, like any burned disc, the same logic applies and carries over from the DVD+-R days. Some media and some players just won't mix.
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post #155 of 1479
9/12/10 at 4:01pm
I think we should turn this thread (or create a new one) into a thread about "How to Make a Demo DVD for Your Home Theater". Then the resulting DVD would fall into the "teaching" category of fair use.
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post #156 of 1479
9/13/10 at 6:00am
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So....

I got the disc burned and loaded onto the PS3 and everything worked good. This disc has 48 (or 49) clips last time I counted and has both a "top menu" and a "pop up" menu. Of all of those "connections" to make during authoring guess how many mistakes!!

None!!

Disc worked great and with the pop-up menu (the pop-up has all 5 menu pages like the main top menu) you can quickly navigate from say Monsters Inc on the Eye candy menu to Ironman on the LFE menu.

I'm happy with the results and the very smooth operation, only wished that I could've retained my clip info graphics. I've learned how I could do it since , by giving each clip it's own "page" but that is an insane amount of work that probably just isn't worth it.

The bad news is that I was unable to get the disc tested for player versatility at Bestbuy and thus was also unable to get an .iso (or .img) created, rar'd and either into a torrent or uploaded to hosting space by weekend's end and have left on business for the week. I did however bring the disc with me and will hit an electronics store one evening this week to test the disc in a few standalones.

Hopefully we will have an image online this weekend.
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post #157 of 1479
9/13/10 at 6:13am
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Oh,

and I'm still looking for a host if there are any volunteers!!

Many people expressed interest during the development cycle but I haven't had any hard committments now that I'm ready to upload.
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post #158 of 1479
9/13/10 at 7:03am
I doubt that anyone who volunteered has rescinded their offer, they have been politely/silently waiting. All you need to do is PM them to work out the details.
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post #159 of 1479
9/13/10 at 7:15am
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Originally Posted by BIGmouthinDC View Post

I doubt that anyone who volunteered has rescinded their offer, they have been politely/silently waiting. All you need to do is PM them to work out the details.

I have, 3 people, no responses in a week.

Others have come forth with good upload connections for seeding the torrent.
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post #160 of 1479
9/13/10 at 8:19am
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Originally Posted by scubasteve2365 View Post

So....

I got the disc burned and loaded onto the PS3 and everything worked good. This disc has 48 (or 49) clips last time I counted and has both a "top menu" and a "pop up" menu. Of all of those "connections" to make during authoring guess how many mistakes!!

None!!

Disc worked great and with the pop-up menu (the pop-up has all 5 menu pages like the main top menu) you can quickly navigate from say Monsters Inc on the Eye candy menu to Ironman on the LFE menu.

I'm happy with the results and the very smooth operation, only wished that I could've retained my clip info graphics. I've learned how I could do it since , by giving each clip it's own "page" but that is an insane amount of work that probably just isn't worth it.

The bad news is that I was unable to get the disc tested for player versatility at Bestbuy and thus was also unable to get an .iso (or .img) created, rar'd and either into a torrent or uploaded to hosting space by weekend's end and have left on business for the week. I did however bring the disc with me and will hit an electronics store one evening this week to test the disc in a few standalones.

Hopefully we will have an image online this weekend.

Scuba,

CONGRATULATIONS!!
Seems you have successfully pulled off what many have been discussing on these forums for quite some time. Looking forward to hearing how the compatibility testing turns out.

I guess I now need to start shopping for BR burner...
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post #161 of 1479
9/13/10 at 8:51am
Steve u have pm - on seeding the torrents (hosting a direct link in the future potentially aswell)
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post #162 of 1479
9/13/10 at 9:05am
What's the need for the hosting? Is it so someone else can intially seed it so you don't get pegged initially or do you want it to be downloadable as well as torrent?

Glad to see this thing get wrapped up!!! Great job scubasteve!!!
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post #163 of 1479
9/13/10 at 9:17am
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Originally Posted by Leifashley27 View Post

What's the need for the hosting? Is it so someone else can intially seed it so you don't get pegged initially or do you want it to be downloadable as well as torrent?

Glad to see this thing get wrapped up!!! Great job scubasteve!!!

I meant seeding the torrent - but if someone does not know about torrents or prefers a direct link then hosting is a good option.
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post #164 of 1479
9/13/10 at 10:07am
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Well my initial thoughts were to upload this to an excellent host, and to do so privately, then to get the best seeders to download it from the host then start the torrent off with a bang.

In retrospect, maybe I shouldn't be concerned with controlling the roll-out at that level and just let it run it's course. I still may give the good seeders a one or two day headstart.

The more I think about it the more I'm inclined to just abandon the whole idea of "hosting it", in reality anyone downloading this is going to have a Blu-ray burner, is going to have to know what to do to burn the image and whatnot, so if they can't download and install a simple torrent (utorrent is simple enough) application it's their loss.
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post #165 of 1479
9/13/10 at 10:08am
I don't have a BR burner (hoping CJ will burn me a copy) but happy to help seed a torrent.
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post #166 of 1479
9/13/10 at 10:27am
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Originally Posted by shftup View Post

I meant seeding the torrent - but if someone does not know about torrents or prefers a direct link then hosting is a good option.

That's what I thought... I don't think anyone is going to want to offer up a direct download. PM sent.
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post #167 of 1479
9/13/10 at 9:01pm
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Here are the current results of my visit to Fry's today. Rather frustrating because hardly any player had the remote nearby therefore it was almost impossible to navigate to test the smoothness of page to page navigation.

Working Players (Tested)
* Sony - Original 60gig PS3
* Sony - BDPS370
* Sony - BDPS570
* Samsung - BD5500
* Samsung - BD6500
* Samsung - BD6900
* Toshiba - BDX2000
* Panasonic - DMPBD85



Not Working Players (Tested)
* LG - BD550
* Panasonic - DMPBD60K
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post #168 of 1479
9/14/10 at 10:07am
what size will the torrent be? I may be able to host it on my seedbox...
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post #169 of 1479
9/14/10 at 10:21am
That looks good. Let's get this baby out.
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post #170 of 1479
9/17/10 at 7:05am
How is the help coming on getting your project out?
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post #171 of 1479
9/17/10 at 7:28am
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Originally Posted by Stereodude View Post

Someone should upload it to USEnet (newsgroups).

I second this Much better than torrents.
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post #172 of 1479
9/17/10 at 8:18am
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Originally Posted by mrvoid View Post

How is the help coming on getting your project out?

Many people are willing to seed. I just got back in town last night and I hope to have a torrent out by the end of the weekend. I'm afraid distribution will initially be painfully slow as I only have about 100KB/s upload. With the speeds of some people who are seeding the torrent, it shouldn't talk to terribly long before this can be downloaded with relative ease.
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post #173 of 1479
9/17/10 at 10:44am
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Originally Posted by scubasteve2365 View Post

Many people are willing to seed. I just got back in town last night and I hope to have a torrent out by the end of the weekend. I'm afraid distribution will initially be painfully slow as I only have about 100KB/s upload. With the speeds of some people who are seeding the torrent, it shouldn't talk to terribly long before this can be downloaded with relative ease.

100kb/s... is that right? Initial upload is going to take ages. You might be better off mailing an original to several of us to initially seed.
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post #174 of 1479
9/17/10 at 10:56am
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Originally Posted by Leifashley27 View Post

100kb/s... is that right? Initial upload is going to take ages. You might be better off mailing an original to several of us to initially seed.

Sorry kB/s, as in Byte and not Bit. As an electrical engineer I have really embraced the marketing nonsense of referring to internet packages in their "bit" rating as the real world, using common operating systems, you deal in how many bytes per second are being transmitted.

I have a 10MB down / 1MB up package, should real-world translate to around 100kB/s.

This issue with mailing out discs, is that it takes 3 hours to burn, then there is the cost of supplying discs and doing all of that. I already have at minimum 100 hours invested in this project.

There is also the issue of having the data in the same format for a torrent if mailed out. I'd have to mail and "data" blu-ray with the .rar archive file structure as opposed to burning the disc ready for BDMV playback. This means the recepient will need to move to harddrive, unpack, reburn disc.

The torrent, however slow, seems like the method that is the least amount of work for everyone.
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post #175 of 1479
9/17/10 at 1:06pm
Torrent only seems slow, remember the pyramid effect... I guess the project will be aprox. 50go? As soon as the first couple of guys will have downloaded 5 or 10go of data from the original poster, you'll triple the download speed for the guys coming after....etc etc...

Get it going for 24 hours and you'll be surprise of how fast this thing will get off the ground...
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post #176 of 1479
9/17/10 at 3:17pm
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Originally Posted by Leifashley27 View Post

100kb/s... is that right? Initial upload is going to take ages. You might be better off mailing an original to several of us to initially seed.

He would have to burn the .ISO to the disc as data, not as a playable blu-ray otherwise each person would have to rip the disc and each rip would be different and therefore not identical and the multiple seed theory fails.
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post #177 of 1479
9/17/10 at 3:21pm
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Originally Posted by scubasteve2365 View Post

This issue with mailing out discs, is that it takes 3 hours to burn, then there is the cost of supplying discs and doing all of that. I already have at minimum 100 hours invested in this project.

There is also the issue of having the data in the same format for a torrent if mailed out. I'd have to mail and "data" blu-ray with the .rar archive file structure as opposed to burning the disc ready for BDMV playback. This means the recepient will need to move to harddrive, unpack, reburn disc.

It'd probably work better if people sent you a 2.5" HD with 50GB+ of space for return instead of having you mail them a burnt data disc.
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post #178 of 1479
9/17/10 at 3:34pm
This is a perfect weekend for this torrent to start - lets get it out tonight and by Monday the seed list will be >50 peeps I bet.

Aswome, Cant wait......
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post #179 of 1479
9/18/10 at 7:41am
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Originally Posted by Stereodude View Post

He would have to burn the .ISO to the disc as data, not as a playable blu-ray otherwise each person would have to rip the disc and each rip would be different and therefore not identical and the multiple seed theory fails.


Don't see a problem with that at all... just need the same file sent to a handful of people. (I'm a seeder for the MAME arcade project... I understand the bit accurate nature of torrents). I can burn 10 copies of it to BD and will take care of the postage if needed.
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post #180 of 1479
9/18/10 at 9:21am
Help!

I do have a BD-re burner. But I have not used it yet, and honestly do not know how the torrents work.

The only program I see is windows dvd maker on my computer. EDIT - I have Roxy Creator Premier too! So I should be set?!

What will I need to do to download and create this demo?

I would help out by making some extra copies for those that do not have a burner. But will need help doing it!

(By the way Steve, thank you for all your effort on this!)
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