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post #121 of 296
10/18/10 at 9:20am
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OK, I got it now. Plus I have my very experienced assistant to guide me through the intricate nuances.



Thanks!

Now I understand why the electrical inspector wanted tamper proof outlets, lol....

Did you call ness electronics? Any developments? Let me know if you need help with anything!
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post #122 of 296
10/18/10 at 9:26am
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Yeah, NOW I know that, hindsight being 20/20 and all.

And now that HE figured out the path, I can pretty much reuse it anytime I need/want to.

In no way was I trying to be rude, I can attest to what you were saying, money well spent, I do like to say I can do a-lot of stuff, but I can admit some things I did, toooook waaaaay toooo long to complete, back breaking getting up in the attic, lost sleep, etc, so I do agree, if I new someone that could have done this, I probably would have had it done, but I did have a bid on how much this would have cost me, and it was a scarry number, where I told myself, I've got to do this....
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post #123 of 296
10/20/10 at 5:57am
Sorry if you took it that way....that's not how I meant it at all. If you read my thread, and know how I write, that's just me trying to be funny.

It seemed so simple when the pro did it that I wanted to slap my forehead.
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post #124 of 296
10/20/10 at 6:23am
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Now I understand why the electrical inspector wanted tamper proof outlets, lol....

Did you call ness electronics? Any developments? Let me know if you need help with anything!

No I haven't called them. If I had planned better I would call them or try fishing wires through closets & such, but I am sticking with the external wiring route (for now anyway) simply because I have already drywalled the entire basement, and as part of that I already ran a RG6 cable from the equipment closet all the way across the basement and out the back of the house. So to finish it off now using that cable should be pretty simple.

OTOH, to try and run a cable inside at this point would require more drywall patching than I have the appetite for. With your helpful photos/tips I could probably fish the cable down from the attic to the basement but it would still leave me with fishing the cable from one end of the basement to the other, with everything freshly drywalled. That's too much hassle for this issue right now, especially since I have a cable run that will suffice with minimal additional effort. I think I'll run with the less-than-ideal approach that is almost done, and revert to the pros if/when needed in the future. Hopefully by that time it will be the next homeowner dealing with it!

I'll try to find some photos of that and add them to my thread so as not to hijack yours any more than I already have!

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Sorry if you took it that way....that's not how I meant it at all. If you read my thread, and know how I write, that's just me trying to be funny.

It seemed so simple when the pro did it that I wanted to slap my forehead.

Ah, the old troublemaker Logan striking out again!

We're on to you now, Tom - so watch your back!
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post #125 of 296
10/31/10 at 11:21pm
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UPDATE:

Sheetrock will be complete this week, tape, sanding done by middle next week, stone on fireplace next week, and more to come as fast as I can do it, with working from 6:00 am to 4:30 every day, 5 days a week, DOE!!!!
AV rack going together nicely as well..... I CAN'T WAAAAAIIIITTTTT.....



close up with the 18 x 18 tile and the fireplace stone:



Middle Atlantic Rack taking shape, with lot's of extra expansion and room to boot:





Much Much Much more to come, lol
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post #126 of 296
11/1/10 at 4:56am
Can't wait to see you kick this build into hyper gear! The tile and stone look great - bring on the drywall!!
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post #127 of 296
11/1/10 at 12:14pm
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Sheetrock will be complete this week, tape, sanding done by middle next week, stone on fireplace next week

Middle of next week, hm? That's Wednesday, November 10.

We're watching you, Chad...
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post #128 of 296
11/4/10 at 9:35am
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Middle of next week, hm? That's Wednesday, November 10.

We're watching you, Chad...

BAMM, OUCH, that left a mark..... Jeesh, talk about pushy.......

Well I've hit a road block, blamit......

My general contractor has not returned to help finish what was promissed, so far I'm out 750 or more dollars, I had a sheet rock contractor stop buy and gave me a bid, which was a good bid, but he noticed so much that my general contractor did some seriously lousy framing, and more work will be needed around where things are not square, where more mudding will have to happen, so right now I'm just numb, I should not have falen for the " my kid's getting married next weekend, could you pay me up-front for the rest and I'll come back when your ready" story, man this just blows, but what can you do?

I'm thinking of just hiring the drywall contractor, to hang and do the whole works, and I would then have to go to small claims court and try to get my 800 or 1,000 dollars back for what my general contractor did not come back and finish, which I did the insullating, and a bunch of bad framing, and then the sheetrock, wonder how fun it will be for a judge to tell a contractor he has to pay up, and I would even try to force him to loose his license for how crappy this guy is for doing this to someone.....

As the world turn with the days of our lives...... LOL!

Another side note:

I'm wondering what extra cables I should run to the tv, in case if there is no cable or sat box, don't I need to run a digital optical cable or digital co-ax to run back to the stereo, if there is only co-ax from my splitter to my family room tv, I would need to get out of the tv, to the receiver which is in the av rack, I think this is right, please confirm, thanks!!!!
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post #129 of 296
11/4/10 at 10:25am
That sucks about the GC. Maybe give him one last warning (documented in email/writing ideally) saying unless he shows up and completes the agreed work - including needed corrections - by a certain date you will have no choice but to pay someone else to do that work and pursue legal redress and compensation from him. May not get a response from him, but it might improve your case should you choose to go after him later.

As for the cabling to & from the TV - I'm not sure of your final set up, as you were discussing some pretty elaborate plans with gsr earlier in your thread about multiple sources and HTPCs and multiple TVs and extenders and whatnot, so it's probably way above my paygrade.

Having said that, I would share one thing I would do differently if I still had open walls now to my TV, in case it is of any relevance to you. I have all my wiring coming to, and extending out from, my central equipment closet under my stairs. I currently only have one viewing source, which is my PJ, and I have the usual HDMI & optical and component & CAT6 running from my closet to the PJ. Coax comes into the equipment closet, into my 2 dual tuner HDHomerun there, out to the AVR, and from the AVR out to the PJ via HDMI. No problem there, as far as I know.

In addition, I wired for a future (possible) TV above the fireplace in the adjacent room, and from the same central closet pulled just HDMI & CAT 6 to that spot (as well as speaker runs of course). Plan is to also take the same OTA signal via RG6 in the closet out to the AVR and from there to the TV & speakers via HDMI. What I did not do is ALSO run RG6 coax directly from the OTA antenna to the TV, which I probably should have done, so if I wanted I could just play OTA on that TV directly from the OTA antenna without involving the AVR. Would have probably also been wise to run optical out from the TV to the AVR for audio while I was at it, in case I wanted to have audio out to the AVR/speakers. Maybe I won't need any of that, but if the drywall wasn't up I would do that just to leave myself more flexibility.

Maybe that's not helpful at all, but thought I'd toss it out there in case it is.

Good luck, man.
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post #130 of 296
11/4/10 at 12:06pm
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Hanes,

Ok, my question was if someone else had owned the house, and they did not have cable or satellite, they only had OTA hd antenna, there would need to be another wire or two so that sound can make it from the tv to the Middle Atlantic rack that's set up with the receiver, this would be the only way sound could come out of the flat panel tv to the stereo, the only way...

When you run co-ax to your flat panel, your have to come out of the tv to the stereo with either a digital co-ax or Optical for sound, I have not seen one tv wtih an HDMI out port, so today I'm going to order one of each for the tv location, then if someone just wants OTA they could get it to the receiver from the tv, no access after sheetrock is done....

I ran new Feed lines of RG6 out to the cable box service box and another feed line to my OTA hd antenna in the attic, they both lead to my structured wiring panel, which is where they should end, and I have seperate splitters for both.

The Media extenders stuff is something totally different, not part of the question above.

So the area over the fire place will have the following wires:

1 maybe 2-HDMI-1.4 high speed cables-30 feet
3-CAT6
2-RG6
1-Optical Cable-30 feet
1-Digital co-ax ( both of these for Audio only )
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post #131 of 296
11/4/10 at 2:15pm
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Sheetrock will be complete this week, tape, sanding done by middle next week, stone on fireplace next week

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Middle of next week, hm? That's Wednesday, November 10.

We're watching you, Chad...

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BAMM, OUCH, that left a mark..... Jeesh, talk about pushy.......

Well, it is nice to know I left a 'good impression' on your theater thread...
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post #132 of 296
11/4/10 at 6:53pm
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That sucks about the GC. Maybe give him one last warning (documented in email/writing ideally) saying unless he shows up and completes the agreed work - including needed corrections - by a certain date you will have no choice but to pay someone else to do that work and pursue legal redress and compensation from him. May not get a response from him, but it might improve your case should you choose to go after him later.

I like your positive attitude about giving someone another chance, but no way, after I've seen all the short cuts this guy made, and how many boards I've had to fix because dry-wall would not go against the 2x4's for how bowed or warped they were. I took pictures of all the poorly done work, I even had my cell phone records printed up for how many times I have called him just in the last month with no return phone calls, bottom line, he told me over a month ago that he got a full time job, and he needed a job and one came up, so I gave that a chance, waited a month, now he's lost that job and now framing up a cabin in northern MN, and giving me a line every single time.

All I need to do is tell the judge when a contractor has been PAID, that contractor has an contract obligation, before any other matter what so ever, that contractor had made an obligation to a contract period!
Not to get another full time job in the mean time, it would be totally different if this job was complete to the contract, but it was not.

My last inspection previous to last weeks insulation inspection was the middle of July!!! over three months ago!

No more being mr nice guy.....
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post #133 of 296
11/4/10 at 6:59pm
Sorry to hear about your GC issues. I have been very fortunate in my builds and projects not to have these types of issues. I say with all that you have you would have enough to proceed with a small claims or civil court. If you can get by with representing yourself (small claims) and not have to front the attorney fees that would be even better.

Good luck in what ever course you decide to pursue. Going through the court system can and does work it just takes time.

Regards,

RTROSE
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post #134 of 296
11/4/10 at 8:17pm
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Thanks RT!

Well, we live and learn, but for now I am in full steam ahead mode, I have a drywall contractor that stopped buy and gave me a bid for doing the entire basement complete, 70 sheets of sheet rock ( includes bathroom ), delivered, and they would carry in to basement, ( easy access ) and hang, tape, sand, the works for 2K, so I'm getting ready to pull the trigger later next week when they have the next opening, then my tile buddies will be ready to BLAST all the tile in on all floors and bedroom area, and bathroom, and all I have to do is hook up all my outlets, switches, and some odds and ends ceiling light trim kits, and so on, so staying positive and dreaming for it to be complete!

Now we all need to laugh sometimes, and here is something that will make your day, get out the laughing blanket, this is the funniest telemarketing audio I have ever heard, can't stop laughing!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkdoogjic4I
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post #135 of 296
11/5/10 at 4:22pm
The drywall was one of the "chores" I decided very early on to hire out. Everything from the delivery, placement, hanging, taping, mudding, and finishing I hired out. Worth every cent I paid. It was quite impressive to see them maneuver the 12 foot sheets into the basement.

Glad to hear that you are full steam ahead.

Regards,

RTROSE
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post #136 of 296
11/16/10 at 1:29pm
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Well Christmas came early,

My 2002 Chev Silverado Crew Cab diesel pickup had some issues this morning, after an hour and a half of waiting for estimate, front wheel bearings & hubs are shot, as well as the rotors, and brakes, and rear axle seals are leaking, need replaced, with new brakes and rotors, all in all, it was a 2 thousand dollar morning of greatness.....

And now I return you to your regularly shcheduled movie already in progress.....
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post #137 of 296
4/1/11 at 5:43pm
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OK, I have been working over the last few months getting this basement project complete, drywall is complete, and getting more stuff done.

My godmother has been dealing with a rare form of cancer of the blood, she's been in and out of treatments over the past two months, I have been driving about 40 minutes every saturday to visit her and my godfather, it's been a rough couple of months, the radiation and chemo type of treatments are only a extended effort, no guarantee, but will give her a chance at another 10 years, she may have to do some stem cell treatment too, but none the less, I'm getting back to the project here, I have spent some time with my god parents, and things seem to be going good, time to get this basement rapped up and have a big family get-together and celebrate life!

I will try to get some pics up, but will be showing some getting done pics...
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post #138 of 296
4/1/11 at 5:48pm
Sorry to hear that you have had a couple of rough months. Family is the most important thing. You can never get the time back that you wished you had spent and to your Godparents your visits I'm sure have meant the world to them.

Glad to hear that you are finally back to getting some work done, I for one am looking forward to seeing some progress photos.

Regards,

RTROSE
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post #139 of 296
4/2/11 at 5:14am
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Thanks RT,

Yea, Family is #1, when I heard the news about this, I took a step back, and said, ok every Saturday I'm driving to their house, or the hospital, what ever I had to do, I was going to do it. My parents divorced back in 1991, and my godparents are my dad's cousins, and after my parents divorce, I did not see my godparents as much which does happen when we have such busy lives.

Two years ago my godfather had to have a replacement heart valve, and then I even did the same thing, went to visit them and help in any way one can, which my godfather is doing great, and living better than before.

You said it right RT, we take the time today is where it is, we never know when the time comes, when that time comes it's too late.

I started a new job a little over a year ago, but when I left my previous company, I had 5 weeks vacation, now I have two weeks, which has hit me hard, loosing three weeks vacation is a big bummer, a big lesson on vacation time.

I'm getting my tile buddies lined up, were going to team up and tile the entire basement in one to two weekends, I've been buying all the stuff needed, to get to the finish line for a big family reunion / and some fellow avs members I may know lol, also this years big firework show is August 20th, maybe we get a few avs people together......
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post #140 of 296
4/5/11 at 5:35am
My opinion would be to NOT put the TV above the fireplace..
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post #141 of 296
4/5/11 at 6:46am
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My opinion would be to NOT put the TV above the fireplace..

Had you read the thread you would know this opinion had already been offered and rejected by Chad on several occasions. But I'm sure he appreciates your unsolicited advice as much as the next guy.
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post #142 of 296
4/6/11 at 9:27am
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Had you read the thread you would know this opinion had already been offered and rejected by Chad on several occasions. But I'm sure he appreciates your unsolicited advice as much as the next guy.

Ahh, that's ok, since it's been a few months since my last post, I figured there would be some new posters chiming in on " Don't Do That " I'd only build a dedicated theater room, but oh well, it's what makes us go around, I'm the one who always has to be different....

But what's more funny, all my friends that have had new homes built, all of them have their new LCD tv's above the fireplaces, so it's not only me....
I'm only doing this just to sell my home and buy a way bigger one for a dedicated major theater in the basement to come later....... A combination of BigRed's and the SMX theater, unlimited budget Theater Build!!!!!

Side Note,
The guy I hired to help me finish up some electrical wiring had screwed up a bunch of circuits, he forgot to run another wire for my fireplace, and he did not even write down anything as far as a plan to what is where, he did not mark all my runs back to my electrical panel, so what a mess, take one step forward, and then 5 steps back, he bailed on me last October, did not finish what was to contract, he did not finish many things, and now I have to take him to court over the amount he was paid and what he did not finish.....

How you been Hanes? Seriously, we both need to have a major beer party!!! Remember those parties doing a hand-stand with a funnel and gallons of Busch Light.....
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post #143 of 296
4/6/11 at 9:37am
I just want it noted that I was the FIRST (I think) to jump on the Not above the fireplace band wagon!

I am seeing a trend around here in Indiana as well regarding the whole fireplace/TV combo. Hmmmm.........maybe a conspiracy buried in there somewhere.

Regards,

RTROSE
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post #144 of 296
4/6/11 at 12:07pm
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I just want it noted that I was the FIRST (I think) to jump on the Not above the fireplace band wagon!

I am seeing a trend around here in Indiana as well regarding the whole fireplace/TV combo. Hmmmm.........maybe a conspiracy buried in there somewhere.

Regards,

RTROSE

Hey RT!,

Mark Down August 20th, that's when we are doing that huge, mega fireworks show, I'd find a way to accomidate, and Hanes and family has an invite as well, hope you can make it up here for this summers show, but I know we all get very busy with summer activities......

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post #145 of 296
4/6/11 at 12:28pm
JUDAS H. PRIEST, Chad - that looks like a bloody Scud Missile launch during the Gulf War!!

You one big crazy!
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post #146 of 296
4/8/11 at 12:05pm
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You will have to make this years show Hanes, lot's of Food, 2 bands, and 15 kegs of beer, how can you pass that up?

Well I thought I'd send some more valuable information I ran into and the link came from good old AVS right here, for all you HATERS.... Muahahahah.....

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1327461
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post #147 of 296
4/8/11 at 1:58pm
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You will have to make this years show Hanes, lot's of Food, 2 bands, and 15 kegs of beer, how can you pass that up?

Well I thought I'd send some more valuable information I ran into and the link came from good old AVS right here, for all you HATERS.... Muahahahah.....

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1327461

You had your reasons for doing it, but just because someone else is doing it doesn't mean that it's anything resembling the ideal place to put a TV...
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post #148 of 296
4/8/11 at 8:37pm
Oh come now Chad, if all of your friends jumped off a bridge would you jump too?

Of course you wouldn't!

But, since you are going down that path then by golly do the best that you can.

Oh, and I'm not a HATER. Just trying to "shepherd" a lost sheep who has strayed off of the path of proper TV placement!

Now continue on and post more pics!

Regards,

RTROSE
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post #149 of 296
4/9/11 at 6:24am
sadly i concur with RT on this 1, electrical and fire places don't mix...
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post #150 of 296
4/9/11 at 7:11am
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Originally Posted by mystic_sniper28 View Post

sadly i concur with RT on this 1, electrical and fire places don't mix...

Thanks for sharing your opinion on this ... for the third time in this same thread. Especially since Chad already responded to your point the first time.
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