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What would you pay for an 80" display?

post #1 of 20
Thread Starter 
Just for fun...

Let's not get into a PDP, LCD, OLED debate (I know, what fun is that?!).

I figure an 80" display is over 50% larger than the current, widely-available, largest option at 65", so, that's a pretty substantial uptick in size and would likely satisfy the yearning for a "theater experience" for all but those looking for the 100+ inch images for very large rooms.

Further, I realize that a PDP display would be hefty, but lets, for the sake of argument, envision a development in the tech that could reduce the weight (although even without a weight reduction, I'd still guess an 80" PDP would be under 200lbs, and my mount already would support it, nevermind the fact that we were lugging around 250 lb CRTs for years).

Last, let's a assume 9/10 (or better) image quality- for whatever that may mean to you regarding the particular technology.

I'll go first: since I doled out $3200 for my 60" Kuro, I think a 50+% increase in size, coupled with a general industry price declination and almost certain slight step-down in image quality would put me right around a 50% increase, or, 5Kish as my limit.

Again, this is what YOU would be willing to pay, not necessarily the predicted MSRP of the unit.

James
post #2 of 20
Thread Starter 
I just thought about the sheer size of a nearly 7' screen in my living room.

WOW!

James
post #3 of 20
I think the real key here is that the larger you go, the more breakable the set is in transit. I think when flexible OLED becomes mainstream, that could have a big impact on larger screen sizes. Other than that, Laser Phosphor has some potential for the big screen market, as does Laser DLP if either of those manage to gain enough traction to hit mainstream volume and prices.
post #4 of 20
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Originally Posted by dlplover View Post

I think the real key here is that the larger you go, the more breakable the set is in transit. I think when flexible OLED becomes mainstream, that could have a big impact on larger screen sizes. Other than that, Laser Phosphor has some potential for the big screen market, as does Laser DLP if either of those manage to gain enough traction to hit mainstream volume and prices.

True, but there's already 65 and 103" PDP's produced and transported, so it can be done. I'm certain it (their production) largely revolves around demand and price-point.

AND you never answered the question, LOL!

Jaames
post #5 of 20
since by the end of this year, 72 inch Vizio LED backlit LCD will be available at $3500 and 80 inch has about 23% larger display area than 72 inch, I can accept a maximum price tag of around $4.5k.
post #6 of 20
It's called a Front Projection Display! You could get into it at entry level with a 720p PJ and a home-made screen (around 100" diagonal) for maybe $1200-$1800, or still go mid-range with a 1080p PJ and commecial screen for a lot less than your $5K benchmark. You just need a dark cave to get the proper effect...

But seriously, the area of a 16:9 80" display is about 250% (2.5 times) that of 50" diagonal, or about 150% (1.5 times) that of 65". The cost, at least for the early adopters, would likely have to be double or triple the cost of current mass-produced 50-65 inch displays. Getting an LCD, plasma, or maybe someday OLED screen that size off the production line with zero defective/stuck pixels is a mighty challenge and would run up the cost too.

The key issue for a manufacturer might be whether to build a fab plant with "scaled up" pixel size i.e. still keeping 1920 X 1080 active elements, or keep the present "pitch" of so many pixels per inch and wind up with an oddball ratio that doesn't map 1080p pixel-for pixel, but might be ready for some future 2K or 4K consumer format.

We paid through the nose (a lot more than your Kuro) for our Pioneer Elite 1120 just 4 years ago, so I think we'll stick with its "ancient" 720p display until all you other early adopters get the 80" units down in price and I can get one at Wallyworld.

Mike
post #7 of 20
Sorry if I wasn't clear. I know there are already large LCD and PDP screens being made. 100" I would expect require extra special handling. But this is also the start of things. Once they push things up to 200" or there-around there'll be no choice except to either go with tech that can work with plastic screens or rollable OLED. How else are you gonna get em through the door?
post #8 of 20
hmm, 4.5-5k sounds fine by me. of course it will ring in at $8,999 though.
post #9 of 20
People are paying between $3,000 and $3,500 for the 82 inch Mitsubishi DLP. So, I would pay $3,000 for an 80 inch display, regardless of technology.

If you limit things to LCD or plasma the question is just silly given the 85 inch Panasonic plasma is $26,000.
post #10 of 20
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Originally Posted by mastermaybe View Post


Further, I realize that a PDP display would be hefty, but lets, for the sake of argument, envision a development in the tech that could reduce the weight (although even without a weight reduction, I'd still guess an 80" PDP would be under 200lbs, and my mount already would support it, nevermind the fact that we were lugging around 250 lb CRTs for years).

well... a 110fd (50" diag, 1067 square inches) weighs 88 pounds and a 150fd (60" diag, 1537 square inches) weighs 122 pounds...

an 80" diag would be 2733 square inches...

so doing some rough math, probably right around 200 pounds (assuming that they wouldn't have to make the glass thicker)... definitely would need a strong friend to help, but certainly manageable...

i'd pay a LOT for an 80" kuro... the pain of being an early adopter is quickly offset by the pleasure of being an early enjoyer...

transporting them would be a major issue... the breakage rate of 60 inchers was significantly higher than 50 inchers... gotta believe that making that glass 80 inches would make them even more sensitive to trauma in transport...
post #11 of 20
How many people would buy 80-inch plasma if the price was less than 10K?
post #12 of 20
^^^

assuming a kuro class plasma, me...

a "lesser quality" one? no...
post #13 of 20
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Originally Posted by Artwood View Post

How many people would buy 80-inch plasma if the price was less than 10K?

I would pay 10k, if it was a Kuro.
post #14 of 20
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Originally Posted by Artwood View Post

How many people would buy 80-inch plasma if the price was less than 10K?

I paid ~ $10K for my 65" Panny 600U so I would jump at the chance of 80"s for less than $10K even if the black levels only matched the last Kuros.
post #15 of 20
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Originally Posted by spyboy View Post

People are paying between $3,000 and $3,500 for the 82 inch Mitsubishi DLP. So, I would pay $3,000 for an 80 inch display, regardless of technology.

If you limit things to LCD or plasma the question is just silly given the 85 inch Panasonic plasma is $26,000.

The question is not "silly" at all.

It's a salient query that I'm asking in an attempt to get an idea about where these things would need to be priced for an enthusiast who doesn't play in the NBA to purchase one.

Seeing they already manu a 65" unit that you can grab around $2.2-2.4 k, I would bet that if Panasonic (or a anyone else for that matter) learned that a decent number would pay 5-$6,000 for a well-performing, 80" PDP or LCD they'd "magically" cut costs dramatically.

And of course I realize there's rear and front projection options, but I'm not asking about them for a myriad of reasons.

James
post #16 of 20
About a 100.00 dollars
post #17 of 20
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Originally Posted by mastermaybe View Post

The question is not "silly" at all.

It's a salient query that I'm asking in an attempt to get an idea about where these things would need to be priced for an enthusiast who doesn't play in the NBA to purchase one.

Seeing they already manu a 65" unit that you can grab around $2.2-2.4 k, I would bet that if Panasonic (or a anyone else for that matter) learned that a decent number would pay 5-$6,000 for a well-performing, 80" PDP or LCD they'd "magically" cut costs dramatically.

And of course I realize there's rear and front projection options, but I'm not asking about them for a myriad of reasons.

James

James, given the number of people buying 37 inch, 32 inch and even smaller LCDs, why is it that Panasonic doesn't bother to produce plasmas under 42 inches? The market for these smaller panels is well established.
post #18 of 20
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Originally Posted by spyboy View Post

James, given the number of people buying 37 inch, 32 inch and even smaller LCDs, why is it that Panasonic doesn't bother to produce plasmas under 42 inches? The market for these smaller panels is well established.

They already produce a number of LCD's in that size range. I'm certain duplicating them with PDP's would not be of much benefit to them.

The comparison of those to a 4-$6,000 80" panel is non-linear.

James
post #19 of 20
I bet you no one at an automobile enthusiast site would ask why anyone produces Maybachs when the vast number of cars are smaller and cost less.

Maybe an LCD proponent that only wanted smaller LCDs to sell would.
post #20 of 20
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Originally Posted by oldcband View Post

About a 100.00 dollars

posts like this:

1) enhance the lack of credibility of the poster...

2) contribute mightily to the lack of constructive discussion about the relative merits of plasma/lcd/whatever...
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