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post #61 of 387
IMHO there will be several new Blu-Ray releases:

1) A new 2D disk with the current theatrical version and some special features.

2) A bare-bones 3D version o the original theatrical version.

3) The 2D extended edition with the extra six minutes of video and the special features above.

4) The collectors edition or ultimate edition with several disks that offers both 2D and 3D versions of the film, all the various Special Features, commentary soundtracks, etc. - all in a fancy box with 3D holographic packaging.

I think the film is borderline too long now, even for home viewing. If the added six minutes include at least one more jaw-dropping and never before seen scene, which serves to elaborate some plot point, well and good. But if they simply extend existing scenes, I'm not interested.
post #62 of 387
I purchased a Bluray player and Avatar at the same time. With out Avatar it may have taken me longer but im glad it did. Enjoyed the movie the 4th time and will again.
post #63 of 387
Reports are a version that is 20 or so minutes longer may hit around Christmas. I do know they trimmed a lot out of the mating scene.
post #64 of 387
If ever a movie was deserving of bonus features...this is it. If there was issues with storage capacity, make it a 2-3 disc set ferchrissake! It's an obvious money-grab by the studio.
I will be waiting for the 2nd release in Nov. which will have those features, and is also rumored to contain deleted scenes.
I saw this this twice in IMAX 3-D so I guess that has tempered any need for me to rush out and buy this as well.
post #65 of 387
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I do know they trimmed a lot out of the mating scene

Thankfully...

Another spot on review Ralph. Reference PQ and AQ and a familiar, decent story.
post #66 of 387
Why did they put a regular dvd in this pack? I dont want it. I would have rather paid a few bucks less and just gotten the bluray disc. This is the second movie that i own now that came like this (I forget the name of the other, but i know i have one), like why???

I dont need a bluray with a digital disc either. Or a second disc with special features. For all the people complaining that they dont want to go bluray because of the price, why not just produce a one-disc version with the bd only for them, and another with all the other discs. For me, i dont mind paying a little extra for a bluray, but i dont want to pay extra for discs i dont want.
post #67 of 387
I did switch to scope with my ISCO lens, it was super, since the pic is so sharp. Then went back to the 16:9 view to get the whole pic. Ralph great review. I did go out and buy Toystory 2 on your rec.
Great..
post #68 of 387
I enjoyed the movie more the second time.
post #69 of 387
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Originally Posted by MrTripps View Post

A movie like Avatar is why you own a blu-ray player. Yes, the story is a mix of Dances With Wolves and The Smurfs. Yes, the studio is double dipping by releasing the extended version in November. Avatar is the most visually stunning movie I have ever seen. I got mine the day it came out ($22 at Best Buy). Amazon has it a couple of bucks cheaper if you don't mind waiting (and buy something else to get the free shipping).

Got it opening day for $19., at Target.
Oh, and yes, this is DEFINITELY one excellent Blu-ray. It looked staggering on my 108" screen...friends just sat there grinning ear to ear. 100 on v and A ? Probably....:
post #70 of 387
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Originally Posted by XFistsClenchedX View Post

I enjoyed the movie more the second time.

+1, agreed.
This just shows that one does not have to see it on IMAX or 3-D to have an immersive experience...but at least a 108" screen helps. I don't know what a 50" TV would do for this movie, but in 1080p, its gotta look good enough in any size.
post #71 of 387
I'm looking forward to seeing this film again in 2D. I enjoyed it in the cinema; but it felt like I missed a lot of detail due to the layered 3D effect forcing your focus on the foreground action. I think I'll wait on the real release later this year though. I mostly regard this BD as something Fox just threw together to capitalize on earth day. With the overabundance of disc space, they didn't even have to spend as much time on compression.
post #72 of 387
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Originally Posted by threed123 View Post

Yup, the 2D version will be a big hit and that really is too bad. The biggest mistake in Hollywood was to release it in 2D. They should have waited for the 3D version to force movement in 3D HT technology.

Some people really don't want to be "forced" into 3D.
I saw the 3D version in the theater, and I gotta tell ya folks, we watched AVATAR on Blu-Ray last night on the UNB558500 and all I can say is WOW. I didn't realize how much I missed in the theater when we watched it in 3D. I still didn't care for the enviro-weenie political message of this movie, but Blu-Ray brought so much more brilliant color and gorgeous detail to the screen, it was a completely different visual experience and REALLY beautiful. Personally, I will NEVER pay to see 3D ever again, there is simply no substitute for picture quality!

That said, I don't see how you could give a disc a "100" when they didn't even take time to put any extras on it. That's why I just rented it.

We did notice the sound completely dropping out for a few seconds, happened about a dozen times during about 30 minutes on this disc, but eventually it stopped and got better. After the movie, we backed it up and the drop outs were still evident in the same chapters. I would be curious if anyone else noticed this, it could be my BR player needing new firmware or something.
post #73 of 387
Great Job once again Ralph!!

We watched this one last night and you review was spot on.
post #74 of 387
Avatar looked 3d on my Sony 46xbr8. But, I could tell this was an abridged version as the editing was not that good, and it went to scenes without adequate story line from the previous scene.
post #75 of 387
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Originally Posted by FloridaDude View Post

That said, I don't see how you could give a disc a "100" when they didn't even take time to put any extras on it. That's why I just rented it.

We did notice the sound completely dropping out for a few seconds, happened about a dozen times during about 30 minutes on this disc, but eventually it stopped and got better. After the movie, we backed it up and the drop outs were still evident in the same chapters. I would be curious if anyone else noticed this, it could be my BR player needing new firmware or something.

Greetings,

The disc wasn't rated "100" the audio/video were. I don't rate the disc as a whole but separately rate the audio/video and then the film itself. I suspect that the audio issues you had were setup related as I didn't experience any nor have I heard anything different from other writers.


Regards,
post #76 of 387
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Originally Posted by Bunga99 View Post

Great Job once again Ralph!!

We watched this one last night and you review was spot on.


Greetings,

Glad to hear that most enjoyed this presentation as much as I did.


Cheers,
post #77 of 387
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Originally Posted by Chad Varnadore View Post

I'm looking forward to seeing this film again in 2D. I enjoyed it in the cinema; but it felt like I missed a lot of detail due to the layered 3D effect forcing your focus on the foreground action. I think I'll wait on the real release later this year though. I mostly regard this BD as something Fox just threw together to capitalize on earth day. With the overabundance of disc space, they didn't even have to spend as much time on compression.

Greetings,

Another reason why I didn't feel compelled to see it first in 3D. You'll enjoy this in your room Chad..


Regards,
post #78 of 387
What's up with this guy who reviews films for AVS. First he said he never saw the original Bad Lieutenant now he never saw Avatar in theatres. I can't trust his opinion on anything and that's including the quality of a bluray itself. Obviously this guys not a film buff.
post #79 of 387
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Originally Posted by Semp1 View Post

What's up with this guy who reviews films for AVS. First he said he never saw the original Bad Lieutenant now he never saw Avatar in theatres. I can't trust his opinion on anything and that's including the quality of a bluray itself. Obviously this guys not a film buff.

Something happen to your wheaties this morning lol Obviously he is a film buff and every review i've read of his is always done tastefully and spot on . But unfortunately you cant keep everyone happy although his percentages are near the 100 percent mark . So with the exception of one or two posters out of 1000's that dont agree I think i'll go with Ralphs Reviews
post #80 of 387
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Originally Posted by Semp1 View Post

What's up with this guy who reviews films for AVS. First he said he never saw the original Bad Lieutenant now he never saw Avatar in theatres. I can't trust his opinion on anything and that's including the quality of a bluray itself. Obviously this guys not a film buff.

What's up? The best BD reviews you can get that's what, only from Mr. Potts. The only problem I have with Ralph is he's costing me alot of money. I've had the calibrator back out for my Kuro, replaced my avr, replaced my front speakers (Energy RC-70's sweet!) and center channel, looking to replace my sub (please no suggestions, I may buy it!) Ralph's reviews are so spot on, I've had to make these changes.
Keep up the excellent work Mr. Potts, I'll just go broke, but I'll be smiling!!!
post #81 of 387
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Originally Posted by yankeeman View Post

Why did they put a regular dvd in this pack? I dont want it. I would have rather paid a few bucks less and just gotten the bluray disc. This is the second movie that i own now that came like this (I forget the name of the other, but i know i have one), like why???

I dont need a bluray with a digital disc either. Or a second disc with special features. For all the people complaining that they dont want to go bluray because of the price, why not just produce a one-disc version with the bd only for them, and another with all the other discs. For me, i dont mind paying a little extra for a bluray, but i dont want to pay extra for discs i dont want.

I agree, I don't care that people all the extra goodies, I see no reason I have to finance the "how many discs will end up in the landfill) program.
post #82 of 387
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Originally Posted by Semp1 View Post

What's up with this guy who reviews films for AVS. First he said he never saw the original Bad Lieutenant now he never saw Avatar in theatres. I can't trust his opinion on anything and that's including the quality of a bluray itself. Obviously this guys not a film buff.

Greetings,

So it is your assertion that every reviewer is responsible to have seen every film before it comes to home video? The idea is absurd and has nothing what so ever to do with any writers ability to rate the quality of a film or its technical merits.

Apparently you haven't read enough of my reviews to be able to tell the difference. Trust is something that is earned. If you feel that based upon the fact that I haven't seen Bad Lieutenant or Avatar in the theater that you can't trust the validity of my reviews I understand. No need to follow them. As long as you understand that I won't be the only writer that you can't trust for this reason.


Regards,
post #83 of 387
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Originally Posted by Ralph Potts View Post

Greetings,

So it is your assertion that every reviewer is responsible to have seen every film before it comes to home video? The idea is absurd and has nothing what so ever to do with any writers ability to rate the quality of a film or its technical merits.

Apparently you haven't read enough of my reviews to be able to tell the difference. Trust is something that is earned. If you feel that based upon the fact that I haven't seen Bad Lieutenant or Avatar in the theater that you can't trust the validity of my reviews I understand. No need to follow them. As long as you understand that I won't be the only writer that you can't trust for this reason.


Regards,

As usual well said !!
post #84 of 387
Ralph,

Spot on review...once again!

After viewing this last night I immediately wrote a review on the Blu-ray PQ thread and recommended putting this on the very top of Tier Blu! It was the nearest thing to perfect that I've seen on Blu....there were a few moments of softness here and there, but as I stated in my review it would be the epitome of nitpicking to draw one's attention to those.

I ended up moving my chair within 5-6 feet from my 60" KURO (I usually sit back 7-8 feet) so I could absorb all the detail this gorgeous transfer had to offer. What a visual treat!

Denny
post #85 of 387
I hope this "Super Bit" style of putting a movie on BD takes off. Ditching the clutter for a full disk is just awesome. Thank you James Cameron.

This looked absolutley spectacular.
post #86 of 387
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Originally Posted by djoberg View Post

Ralph,

Spot on review...once again!

After viewing this last night I immediately wrote a review on the Blu-ray PQ thread and recommended putting this on the very top of Tier Blu! It was the nearest thing to perfect that I've seen on Blu....there were a few moments of softness here and there, but as I stated in my review it would be the epitome of nitpicking to draw one's attention to those.

I ended up moving my chair within 5-6 feet from my 60" KURO (I usually sit back 7-8 feet) so I could absorb all the detail this gorgeous transfer had to offer. What a visual treat!

Denny

Greetings,

Terrific, thanks for sharing your impressions Denny!

Cheers,
post #87 of 387
Indeed.. This currently represents the pinnacle of what is possible on bluray disc.

I look forward to future movies exceeding this one in every way.. what a treat that will be
post #88 of 387
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Originally Posted by boswd View Post

I hope this "Super Bit" style of putting a movie on BD takes off. Ditching the clutter for a full disk is just awesome. Thank you James Cameron.

This looked absolutley spectacular.

I would be so happy if studios dumped all the extra crap they put on disc so that they could squeeze more quality on the disc. At the very least only have extras on another disc, I'd gladly pay a little more for a disc that I knew was the best quality possible.
post #89 of 387
I agree with everyone that this is a great VISUAL masterpiece and a very fun movie to watch. However, as a whole, it is not a "blow you away" kind of experience for me. The story has been done before (Fern Gully, Pochahontas, ect..) and the acting is not at an extremely high level. The acting is good, but nothing noteworthy.

I know many people on here care more about the visual and audio quality of the movie than the actual movie itself and i understand that. To each his own. I really loved the movie, but I am not about to declare it the best movie ever as some others are.

FWIW - I dont even think Avatar was the best movie released this week. I would highly recommend Crazy Heart if you haven't seen it already. Bridges won Best Actor for his performance and I think the movie deserved Best Picture as well. Just my 2 cents.
post #90 of 387
I enjoyed the experience seeing this in 3D at the movies, but thought the film was just "OK". Hope to rent it pretty soon and see if it fares better in 2D at home. Sounds like the Blu-ray will not disappoint visually, so can't wait to check it out.
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