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Avatar Blu Ray 2d to 3d conversion on Samsung?

post #1 of 29
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Hi guys, my wife and I just finished watching the Avatar blu ray on our 106" projection screen. While watching, I was wondering if anyone with one of the Samsungs (lcd or plasma) has watched Avatar with the conversion feature. As this is the film that all of us have seen in its 3d glory, I'm curious as to how good it looks with the 2d to 3d conversion on the standard blu ray release.
post #2 of 29
I have not seen it in the 3d glory of the big screen but just finishe watching it with my soon to be returned UN55C8000 and it was the best conversion to date but I can be sure that it was nothing like the glory of the original. To me the conversion just makes everything appear more crisp and edgy in a good way. I can't wait for the release of the 3d bluray so I can finally see how it was meant to look.
post #3 of 29
Same here, I haven't seen avatar in theaters, but so far its the best 2d to 3d conversion I have seen.
post #4 of 29
I'm not a fan of conversion, but as soon as I got my copy of Avatar, I took it over to Ultimate to see how the conversion looked on the Samsung 7000. I was pleasantly surprised at the sense of depth it was able to achieve. Nothing like the real thing, but it wasn't nearly as bad as I thought it might be.
post #5 of 29
Here is an article on cnet that addresses avatar 2d to 3d

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-...CmoreStories.0
post #6 of 29
I suspect I'd have a similar reaction if I watched for any length of time, because that's pretty much what I felt when I first saw Blu-ray discs with 2D to 3D conversion. I think I was so struck with Avatar because I got at least a glimpse (fake though it was) of how the true 3D version will look. I'm more certain than ever, after seeing this first Avatar Blu-ray disc, that the home 3D experience is going to be spectacular.
post #7 of 29
Me too.Can't wait for the real 3-D version of Avatar,must look very great with this Sammy LED.
post #8 of 29
Samsung's conversion seems to be a very individual thing. I, for one, think it is great. Better than watching anything in 2D. I've seen the Avatar trailers converted, looked good to me. I would have no problem watching the whole movie converted. Wouldn't think of watching it any other way.
post #9 of 29
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We weren't surprised to find that, for what it's worth, the bitrate of the PS3 download--an 8793 MB MNV file, if you're curious--seemed to average about half that of the Blu-ray

If that's half the bitrate of the Blu-ray, then the Blu-ray raw movie would only be 17 GB. Can this be right? I thought they didn't want extras to max out the quality.
post #10 of 29
Has anyone else tried this - watching Avatar Bluray with real 3d glasses with one lens popped out. I watched it on my projector & 120" screen last night like this and was amazed at a lot of the scenes. It looked as good as the fake 3d in clash of the titans. It also made the picture look more like it did in the theater where I saw it. Amazing!!

Here's how it works -http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pulfrich_effect
post #11 of 29
the best is to switch it off.

its a bad idea to have this very bad looking 2d to 3d function inside.

panasonic make the only right thing to not have it on board at all.

i hear people saying 3d looks bad but the trues is the are seeing
this stupid 2d to 3d funktion.
its not helpfull at all for 3d its opposite.
post #12 of 29
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Originally Posted by W.Mayer View Post

the best is to switch it off.

its a bad idea to have this very bad looking 2d to 3d function inside.

panasonic make the only right thing to not have it on board at all.

i hear people saying 3d looks bad but the trues is the are seeing
this stupid 2d to 3d funktion.
its not helpfull at all for 3d its opposite.

Have you seen it?
post #13 of 29
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Originally Posted by Bill View Post

Have you seen it?

yes i saw it not only one time and i do 3d since 30 years.
post #14 of 29
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Originally Posted by W.Mayer View Post

the best is to switch it off.

its a bad idea to have this very bad looking 2d to 3d function inside.

panasonic make the only right thing to not have it on board at all.

i hear people saying 3d looks bad but the trues is the are seeing
this stupid 2d to 3d funktion.
its not helpfull at all for 3d its opposite.

I disagree, though I readily concede that the quality of 2D to 3D conversion comes down to personal preference and will vary from title to title. I've seen the conversion at work on Samsung's 55" LED LCD on a number of movies and I found it pleasing to watch with a nice sense of depth to the image. Other folks may not like it but, like any feature on a TV, I think it's better to at least have it available than to unilaterally decide not to include it and I applaud Samsung for at least giving you the option of trying it out if you want. If you like it, great; if not, you just don't use it.
post #15 of 29
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Originally Posted by W.Mayer View Post

the best is to switch it off.

its a bad idea to have this very bad looking 2d to 3d function inside.

panasonic make the only right thing to not have it on board at all.

i hear people saying 3d looks bad but the trues is the are seeing
this stupid 2d to 3d funktion.
its not helpfull at all for 3d its opposite.

It's Samsung or Toshibas's fault that Pansonic couldn't get it working.

Samsung's 2D to 3D is actually quite effective in providing depth without too many artifacts. The fact that it does it in real-time is quite amazing and a key selling point due to the lack of 3D content.

PS: Looks like the Panasonic VT20 isn't so perfect either interms of shadow-detail and luminance.
post #16 of 29
Forget Avatar, can someone tell me how Return of the King looks in 3D? There are a ton of very dynamic shots that would look great in 3D!
post #17 of 29
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Originally Posted by bferr1 View Post

Forget Avatar, can someone tell me how Return of the King looks in 3D? There are a ton of very dynamic shots that would look great in 3D!

Avatar looked really good converted. I have to try the LOTR disks tonight and let you know.
post #18 of 29
^ Cool! Can't wait for your report. Many thanks!
post #19 of 29
Has anyone looked at sporting events in real-time using the 2D>3D feature? If real or fake 3D actually enhances live sports that would be a real selling point to me since I spend a lot of time watching football, basketball and tennis..and sometimes a little golf and hockey. Not so much soccer...just a lot of running around to me. I know that is heresy to much of the world but so be it.

fafner
post #20 of 29
I saw parts of Avatar converted to 3D on a Samsung 3D T.V. today and it confirmed my interest in 3D T.V.s that have this feature. I thought it looked extremely good - pretty close to the IMAX 3D experience for me. I'm trying to hold off buying until there's bigger sets on the market.
post #21 of 29
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pretty close to the IMAX 3D experience for me.

Deja Vu and Bill, you two are just too funny. Are you Samsung employees btw? If not, are you sure you can actually perceive depth?
post #22 of 29
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Originally Posted by Chris_TC View Post

Deja Vu and Bill, you two are just too funny. Are you Samsung employees btw? If not, are you sure you can actually perceive depth?

Actually I''m a lawyer, teacher and CEO of a small investment company and maybe I've developed an extra sense of depth as a survival mechanism.
BTW my optometrist tells me I have the depth perception of an elite athlete, which I assume is pretty good depth perception - so yes, I assume I can perceive depth. I'm actually very deep (personality wise).
post #23 of 29
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Originally Posted by fafner View Post

Has anyone looked at sporting events in real-time using the 2D>3D feature? If real or fake 3D actually enhances live sports that would be a real selling point to me since I spend a lot of time watching football, basketball and tennis..and sometimes a little golf and hockey. Not so much soccer...just a lot of running around to me. I know that is heresy to much of the world but so be it.fafner

Sports are better.
post #24 of 29
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Originally Posted by bferr1 View Post

Forget Avatar, can someone tell me how Return of the King looks in 3D? There are a ton of very dynamic shots that would look great in 3D!


I posted this somewhere before, but that was one fo the first disks I tried. So far the LOTR trilogy are my favorite conversions. I was watching it with my GF and when I truend it off, she made me turn it back on. The wide panaoramic shots look fantastic in 2-3D.
post #25 of 29
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Originally Posted by W.Mayer View Post

the best is to switch it off.

its a bad idea to have this very bad looking 2d to 3d function inside.

panasonic make the only right thing to not have it on board at all.

i hear people saying 3d looks bad but the trues is the are seeing
this stupid 2d to 3d funktion.
its not helpfull at all for 3d its opposite.

Not sure how many conversions you've seen. Some are OK, some don't make a difference and others are simply fantastic. tough to call it a stupid function if you've only seen one or two conversions. I've had people over and they made me leave the 2-3D conversion on while watching certain BD's. It makes that much of a difference. However, on certain show's it doens't make that much of a difference. That "stupid function" made me choose Samsung over Panasonic even though the picture on the V25 is outstanding.
post #26 of 29
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Originally Posted by NJChris View Post

Avatar looked really good converted. I have to try the LOTR disks tonight and let you know.

Any feedback on LOTR?

Thanks.
post #27 of 29
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Originally Posted by Dr_Who View Post

Not sure how many conversions you've seen. Some are OK, some don't make a difference and others are simply fantastic. tough to call it a stupid function if you've only seen one or two conversions. I've had people over and they made me leave the 2-3D conversion on while watching certain BD's. It makes that much of a difference. However, on certain show's it doens't make that much of a difference. That "stupid function" made me choose Samsung over Panasonic even though the picture on the V25 is outstanding.

I couldn't agree more! BTW, I'm really impressed with the Samsung's image and understand why you took it over the Panasonic! If (probably when) I purchase a 3D T.V. it will have to have 2D to 3D conversion. I suspect Panasonic will add this function in their next models. I was amazed how good the opening scene in Avatar looked converted.
post #28 of 29
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Originally Posted by rjruby View Post

Any feedback on LOTR?

Thanks.

I tried LOTR- Return of the king tonight for a few samples. The beginning scene looked really nice. Most of the samples looked pretty good. Not as good as Avatar, but still pretty good.

I also threw in UP for a few samples and it looked very good. CGI seems to convert really well.
post #29 of 29
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Originally Posted by NJChris View Post


I tried LOTR- Return of the king tonight for a few samples. The beginning scene looked really nice. Most of the samples looked pretty good. Not as good as Avatar, but still pretty good.

I also threw in UP for a few samples and it looked very good. CGI seems to convert really well.

Lol for a second I thought you said you threw up.
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