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A request to TV Manufacturers: Make a inexpensive model you can upgrade

post #1 of 10
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I am speaking to LCD makers who sell 3D TV's. Please sell bare bones models that have no glasses or transmitter from the TV to the glasses and we can buy those at a later date.

Even make 32" models for those of use who need a pc monitor at 32" and sit a few feet from our desks.
I say this small a size because the manufacturers who make 3D displays won't make a 240Hz model at 32" for a small amount any time soon. They sell 120Hz models and that isn't so good if the LCD TV needs black frame insertion for 3D movies so the crosstalk is minor.

If people say that's too small you need to understand that if the size of the display shows the vertical interposition the artifact of the display being to small is already there, and many people who buy 65" LCD TV's will see the TV frame bezel is the vertical direction so that a 32" model would show it too isn't such a big deal.

Pretty Please
post #2 of 10
Sony's KDL-HX800 series is 3D ready, so no IR emitter or glasses are included.

From the press release "Screen sizes include 60 (KDL-60NX800: $4,00), 52 (KDL-52NX800: $3,400) and 46-inch (KDL-46NX800: $2,800)"

http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/n...ifi-and-local/
post #3 of 10
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Ben, I know you talk to the TV companies. I hope you tell them I am asking for a 32" model at a cheap entry price point.

Edit,

I think the TV Manufacturers have a bad idea of who their market is. The AV enthusiasts have their projectors and large calibrated tv's already all set up.
The current 2D Movies is all they want and they know how to make it look good. So no, this is not the market for 3D TV at all!!!

If the TV manufacturers made a good quality, cheap, 3D TV and marketed it to the poor people who buy cheap LCD TV's then they would buy them because it's probably better than the LCD TV they currently own.
You can't say to a owner of a projector display that a ~ 50" Plasma is better than his ~100" screen just because it's got 3D.
But you CAN tell a owner of a cheap ~1000.00 LCD TV that buying a NEW 3D TV makes sense for quality and novelty.

The top dollar market has no room for smaller displays with no library of movies, but the bottom bollar market is itching to buy something like this for PS3 or the Wii2 etc. Don't forget the Wii grabs a lot of the audience and they can push 3D tv too but not if the tv's are marketed at the top dollar market.
post #4 of 10
"A good quality cheap 3DTV . . . that doesn't include the emitter and the glasses"

So how are you going to see 3D without them? You are going to have to buy them. Why not include them in the price?

What? Strictly for 3D gaming from a PC? What about from the PS3? And what about 3D from Blu-ray or 3D CBL or 3D SAT?

It sounds like you are asking for a single purpose 3D display. You can already get those in I believe 27". Is the extra 5" that much of a deal breaker?
post #5 of 10
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"A good quality cheap 3DTV . . . that doesn't include the emitter and the glasses"

So how are you going to see 3D without them? You are going to have to buy them. Why not include them in the price?

What? Strictly for 3D gaming from a PC? What about from the PS3? And what about 3D from Blu-ray or 3D CBL or 3D SAT?

It sounds like you are asking for a single purpose 3D display. You can already get those in I believe 27". Is the extra 5" that much of a deal breaker?

Hi Lee Stewart. Nice to see you and Ben Respond to my thread.

I suggest selling the TV sans Glasses and Emitter and sell them separetely.

Not stricktly for games at all. Blu Ray 3D too.

Those stricktly gaming 3D displays don't have the 240Hz feature or else I would say those at the ~ $600.00 price would be a better bargain.
post #6 of 10
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Originally Posted by 8:13 View Post

Hi Lee Stewart. Nice to see you and Ben Respond to my thread.

I suggest selling the TV sans Glasses and Emitter and sell them separetely.

Not stricktly for games at all. Blu Ray 3D too.

Those stricktly gaming 3D displays don't have the 240Hz feature or else I would say those at the ~ $600.00 price would be a better bargain.

But is has already been established that 240Hz 3D is not 120Hz per eye but 60Hz per eye due to the inclusion of a black frame for every other frame to overcome the response time issue in LCD displays. That is how the Samsung 240Hz 3DTV LED LCDs work.
post #7 of 10
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Originally Posted by Lee Stewart View Post

But is has already been established that 240Hz 3D is not 120Hz per eye but 60Hz per eye due to the inclusion of a black frame for every other frame to overcome the response time issue in LCD displays. That is how the Samsung 240Hz 3DTV LED LCDs work.

Oh yes, I know. Not 120Hz per eye but 60Hz with Black Frame Insertion.
They use Black Frame Insertion to help with ghosting you know, those 120Hz gaming LCD's don't have that at 240Hz.
post #8 of 10
I've never seen a 3D demo on a screen smaller than 50-inches, I wonder if there is a reason why manufactures don't make them yet. I suspect it is just the evolution of the technology where the latest features are initially introduced on the high end models and work their way down.
post #9 of 10
Phillips is releasing a 3D ready TV that is 37" in the UK:

http://www.3d-display-info.com/philips-8605
post #10 of 10
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Originally Posted by Lee Stewart View Post

Phillips is releasing a 3D ready TV that is 37" in the UK:

http://www.3d-display-info.com/philips-8605

Maybe the 2011 models will have a 32" model.
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