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DirecTV 2010 NFL ST Super Fan price increase? No, it's included for free - 8/2/10.

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Friend told me price was jumping to $320. Any news on this, as I don't see anything on DTV's website?
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The last rumor I have read was that the Sunday Ticket price was going up a little bit (I think to $315), but they are going to get rid of the SuperFan package (the extra $100 to get the games in HD, the Mix Channel, RedZone, etc.) All of that will now be included in Sunday Ticket for free.

The SuperCast feature where you can watch on your cell phone will become a seperate package. You can buy it on it's own without Sunday Ticket, or if you have Sunday Ticket already you will get a discount on SuperCast. Haven't heard any pricing for this yet though.

Finally it looks like D* will be offering the RedZone channel on it's own too. So for people that just want to subscribe to the RedZone channel they won't have to get Sunday Ticket (it will still be included in Sunday Ticket too). Haven't heard costs for RedZone channel by itself yet either.

Nothing will really be final until sometime this summer though.
post #3 of 149
At those prices I will be done with it but will try to get my discount that I get every year if not I am out
post #4 of 149
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Originally Posted by steverobertson View Post

At those prices I will be done with it but will try to get my discount that I get every year if not I am out

Ditto. I have never paid the $99 charge associated with superfan, so building that charge into the plan amounts to a $99 increase for me.
post #5 of 149
How is that? If you never paid for Superfan then you got Sunday Ticket for $300 or so last year right? (it would have been $300+$99 but you got a $99 credit or something like that). So this year Sunday Ticket will be $315. That means you will only be paying $15 more, and who is to say you still won't be able to get a discount on the $315. It's just too early to know right now.
post #6 of 149
If they create an iPad app for this season, I'll dump Sunday Ticket as planned and just follow non-televised games on it. If not, I think I'd just go for the Red Zone channel, which is primarily all I viewed last season. I can't justify 300+ for ST anymore. Like many others, I've never once had to pay for the HD games. I just threaten to quit every year and they give it to me.
post #7 of 149
If you people keep paying the price then they will keep raising it.
post #8 of 149
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

NFL Sunday Ticket forever!!!!!!

....and for the record: I could care less about people who complain about the price....particularily when there is a antenna attached to there roof. This is a free country and people can buy whatever they can afford. There will always be Impala drivers who think Bentley drivers are crazy....So is the case with people who don't buy TV subscriptions. Just don't show up at my house on Sunday afternoon because you're too cheap to pay 300 bucks and expect me to greet you with open arms when you ask, "Are you watching the game?"
post #9 of 149
i want the Red zone channel only... i could care less about the other games... i watch my local game anyway...
post #10 of 149
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Originally Posted by Beerstalker View Post

How is that? If you never paid for Superfan then you got Sunday Ticket for $300 or so last year right? (it would have been $300+$99 but you got a $99 credit or something like that). So this year Sunday Ticket will be $315. That means you will only be paying $15 more, and who is to say you still won't be able to get a discount on the $315. It's just too early to know right now.

Not me I paid 229.00 and free SF
post #11 of 149
NFL ST auto-renew last year was $269.99.
post #12 of 149
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Originally Posted by TRT View Post

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

NFL Sunday Ticket forever!!!!!!

....and for the record: I could care less about people who complain about the price....particularily when there is a antenna attached to there roof. This is a free country and people can buy whatever they can afford. There will always be Impala drivers who think Bentley drivers are crazy....So is the case with people who don't buy TV subscriptions. Just don't show up at my house on Sunday afternoon because you're too cheap to pay 300 bucks and expect me to greet you with open arms when you ask, "Are you watching the game?"

THIS !

I don't complain about the price of ST anymore than the price of gas. If you don't want to pay for it, fine. But D* is company in business to make money. They will charge what the market will bear. And I'm happy to pay to see my "World Champion" (TM) New Orleans Saints every week.

I've had ST since 1997 and I have no plans to stop getting.

Of course, if they reduce or hold the line on the price of ST + Super Fan, I would happily pay less.
post #13 of 149
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Originally Posted by tfried View Post

NFL ST auto-renew last year was $269.99.

Yes it was and I got more of a discount as that is what I paid the year before as well
post #14 of 149
All I was trying to let people know is this year it looks like there will be 3 options:

Red Zone Channel by itself
Not sure if this will be D*s Red Zone channel, or NFL Networks version, but most people think D*'s version.

SuperCast
Allows you to watch all the games on your iPhone, Computer, etc. (Sunday ticket subscribers will get a discount on this service if they want it)

Sunday Ticket
This will include all games in HD, the RedZone Channel, game mix channel, etc.

There is no such thing as SuperFan this year.
post #15 of 149
Last year alot of people got a deal from directv for ST to make it essentially only $150:

- $270 autorenewal.
- Free superfan.
- $20 credit for 6 months on monthly bill.

So bottom line $150.
post #16 of 149
Last fall I watched my favorite college football team Alabama win the national championship. I watched all 14 games. 10 of them were on local channels OTA in HD and the other 4 were on ESPN360.com. I watched my favorite NFL team the Dallas Cowboys play 13 times OTA in HD. Since I don't have cable I got to see all these games for free. So move down south and become Alabama and Dallas fans. It will save you money.
post #17 of 149
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Originally Posted by Beerstalker View Post

There is no such thing as SuperFan this year.

It's about friggin' time. I imagine the price is just going to crawl back up to $399 though negating the savings.
post #18 of 149
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Originally Posted by aldamon View Post

It's about friggin' time. I imagine the price is just going to crawl back up to $399 though negating the savings.

No kidding SF was joke in that it was a way to try to get another 99.00 out of us and was happy I never paid for it. I don't know who is more arrogant with these price increases the NFL or D*
post #19 of 149
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Originally Posted by steverobertson View Post

No kidding SF was joke in that it was a way to try to get another 99.00 out of us and was happy I never paid for it. I don't know who is more arrogant with these price increases the NFL or D*

There's no more arrogant group than the NFL. But they're popular, so they're allowed to be I guess. Regardless of my love for the game, I refused to pay for Superfan every year it was out, and if they refused to give it to me free I let them know I'd never be a Sunday Ticket buyer. My love for the NFL is waning, however, so living without ST this year and beyond wont hurt me. I still love the game, just not as much as I once did (amazing what having kids will do). I hope RedZone is offered at a fair price on Directv and that its the Directv version and not the god-awful crap that was sold to cable companies last season. Unfortunately I'm betting Directv is going to make it cost prohibitive for people like me to simply get Redzone or the games via the 'net.
post #20 of 149
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Originally Posted by skyehill View Post

Unfortunately I'm betting Directv is going to make it cost prohibitive for people like me to simply get Redzone or the games via the 'net.

Thats the idea.

The NFL does not want every Joe 6-Pack (yes this is my 2nd joe6pack ref in 2 hrs here) to have the package.

They want to keep a cap on total # of subs, hence the $$ price & why its available to only 1 provider, Directv....the best.
post #21 of 149
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Originally Posted by dcowboy7 View Post

Thats the idea.

The NFL does not want every Joe 6-Pack (yes this is my 2nd joe6pack ref in 2 hrs here) to have the package.

They want to keep a cap on total # of subs, hence the $$ price & why its available to only 1 provider, Directv....the best.

...in the US. Sunday Ticket is available on about 9 different carriers in the western hemisphere.
post #22 of 149
The NFL doesn't care how many people have the package; whatever makes them the most money is what they want. DirecTV eats a big loss on ST in order to make more money on the rest of the packages ST subscribers pay for. Anyone who's willing to pay $250 or more just for football is a high-value customer since they'll probably be ordering a bunch of other high-margin stuff like PPV, premium channels, etc..
post #23 of 149
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Originally Posted by coyoteaz View Post

The NFL doesn't care how many people have the package; whatever makes them the most money is what they want. DirecTV eats a big loss on ST in order to make more money on the rest of the packages ST subscribers pay for. Anyone who's willing to pay $250 or more just for football is a high-value customer since they'll probably be ordering a bunch of other high-margin stuff like PPV, premium channels, etc..

a) We have been thru this before....the reason the NFL wants the sub cap is that the networks dont want to be losing local viewers as it would kill their local advertising value during those games.

b) How do u know its a big loss ? directv takes a ton of $$ from bars, clubs, restaurants etc. based on seating capacity....nobody has published & if they did can u link it, how much $$ directv makes/loses per year on ST.
post #24 of 149
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Originally Posted by coyoteaz View Post

The NFL doesn't care how many people have the package; whatever makes them the most money is what they want. DirecTV eats a big loss on ST in order to make more money on the rest of the packages ST subscribers pay for. Anyone who's willing to pay $250 or more just for football is a high-value customer since they'll probably be ordering a bunch of other high-margin stuff like PPV, premium channels, etc..

I'm sorry but I think you need to do some more research on this. DirecTV makes a ton of money off of Sunday Ticket, just not that much from the individual customers. They make the majority of their money off of Bars/Restaurants that want the package, those places have to pay different prices depending upon the occupancy limit of the building. DirecTV charges them thousands of dollars every year to have the package. Most of those places also keep DirecTV year round and buy other packages too like MLB Extra Innings, NBA League Pass, etc.

Because DirecTV makes so much money off of the commercial subscribers they can afford to give discounts/freebies/etc to the home customers, especially home customers who are already high end customers (HD Access, Premium subscriptions, etc.).

The NFL only wants a certain number of home customers to get the package. Instead of saying it's only available to XXX number of customers and everyone after that gets turned down, they decide to play with the pricing of the package to keep subscriber numbers down. If the home package was too cheap too many people would subscribe to it. That would mean less people going to the bars/restaurants to watch the games, which would in turn make more bars/restaurants think about getting rid of the package because it doesn't help their business as much. Increased home customers would also decrease the viewership of the local channels airing the games, which would drive down the ad revenues on those channels. The NFL doesn't want either of these things to happen, so they tell DirecTV to raise the price of the package to keep subscriber numbers down.
post #25 of 149
Any news on this? Curious when they will announce pricing..
post #26 of 149
I'd only be interested in RedZone. I recently switched from comcast and it was only $5 a month. I've got a feeling it wont be this cheap with Direct TV.
post #27 of 149
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Originally Posted by TRT View Post

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

NFL Sunday Ticket forever!!!!!!

....and for the record: I could care less about people who complain about the price....particularily when there is a antenna attached to there roof. This is a free country and people can buy whatever they can afford. There will always be Impala drivers who think Bentley drivers are crazy....So is the case with people who don't buy TV subscriptions. Just don't show up at my house on Sunday afternoon because you're too cheap to pay 300 bucks and expect me to greet you with open arms when you ask, "Are you watching the game?"

It's not just about $300. Ok first of all if you want HD you had to pay $400 not $300. Second you couldn't just get Sunday Ticket. You had to get regular DirecTv service whether you needed it or not. That's at least another $30 a month plus tax. So suddenly your supposed $300 is $850 a year if you include the tax. So 16 games( because the only thing I care about is watching MY team ) that's $55 a game. You can go to an ACTUAL game for that much. Just because YOU choose to OVERPAY for a product doesn't mean everyone is being "cheap". MLB Extra Innings is $200 a year and you get WAY more games. The online verison is $100 a year.
post #28 of 149
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Originally Posted by Beerstalker View Post

The NFL only wants a certain number of home customers to get the package. Instead of saying it's only available to XXX number of customers and everyone after that gets turned down, they decide to play with the pricing of the package to keep subscriber numbers down. If the home package was too cheap too many people would subscribe to it. That would mean less people going to the bars/restaurants to watch the games, which would in turn make more bars/restaurants think about getting rid of the package because it doesn't help their business as much. Increased home customers would also decrease the viewership of the local channels airing the games, which would drive down the ad revenues on those channels. The NFL doesn't want either of these things to happen, so they tell DirecTV to raise the price of the package to keep subscriber numbers down.

Everything you said is bull crap. The NFL gets a set amount of money UPFRONT form DirecTV. Right now it's $1 billion per year. The NFL gets that $1 bil whether 10 million people subscribe to it or just 10 people subscribe to it.

Local ad revenues aren't hurt because local games aren't shown on Sunday Ticket they are shown on the local channel.
post #29 of 149
I got a great price for renewal I was shocked to be honest with you plus they are going to throw in 2 HR 24 boxes for free. I have with them for 14 years so I guess they really wanted to take care of me and boy did they ever

My suggestion is call and see what you can get

Good luck
post #30 of 149
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Originally Posted by BCF68 View Post

Everything you said is bull crap. The NFL gets a set amount of money UPFRONT form DirecTV. Right now it's $1 billion per year. The NFL gets that $1 bil whether 10 million people subscribe to it or just 10 people subscribe to it.

Local ad revenues aren't hurt because local games aren't shown on Sunday Ticket they are shown on the local channel.

Believe whatever you want, but that is they way I understand it works.

You are totally wrong about the ad revenues though. You are pointing out the exact reason that their numbers are hurt.

Say you live in the Detroit market and love football. If you don't have Sunday ticket then you are probably going to end up watching the Detroit game even if you aren't a huge fan of them. That means you will be seeing those local ads that the affiliate was paid to air.

Now if you did have Sunday Ticket you wouldn't be watching the Detroit game, you would watch another game with better teams. That means you are no longer watching the local ads. This hurts their numbers.

Sunday ticket doesn't hurt the local numbers because you decide to watch the same game on another channel, it hurts the numbers because you watch a different game on a different channel. Instead of watching the local FOX station you end up watching a CBS station from New York, etc.
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