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post #1141 of 4383
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Originally Posted by quadrophenia View Post

It will work, but I don't think the receiver will be able to re-mix a 5.1 DVD/Blu-Ray Dolby/DTS track into a 3.1 track -- anything sent to the surrounds won't be re-integrated into the front left and front right. In other words, even though you can set it up as a 3.1 in MCACC, you'll still lose anything that gets sent to the surround speakers.

I agree with you that this is still a better option than 2.0 or 2.1, at least for movies.

Thanks. That was what I really needed to know I guess. I was hoping that the system could fold the rear channel surround sound into the front 3.1 speakers somehow.
post #1142 of 4383
why does this receiver default to TV/SAT input when powered up?
post #1143 of 4383
^^^

likely because kurolink is turned on...
post #1144 of 4383
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Originally Posted by Banginblaz View Post

First off, my setup
AVR-1020
Optoma HD70
HTPC w/ ATI 4650 (HDMI) Win 7 64bit
Oppo Dvd (forgot model, works fine anyways)
Xbox 360

This unit is replacing a H/K 2600 that worked perfectly.

This is the second unit I bought. I returned the first for the EXACT same issue. I was hoping it was defective.....

My main problem is that the unit will not work with the HDMI out of the HTPC. At all. I can plug the HDMI in directly to the projector and it comes right up. When the 1020 is plugged in (tried HDMI 1-2-and 3) the computer says "Not Plugged In" under the playback devices, and the projector gets nothing (not even the OSD). It does, however, list the 1020 in the device manager...

I tried the obvious.. changed cables, turned "control" off, switched to "pure", even tried bypass. Nothing.

The Xbox works, sorta, I have to turn everything on then when the projector is searching I have to switch to something other than HDMI 2 where it is plugged in and then switch back. Unless I do this the projector gets no signal.

The Oppo works fine.

If I have the projector turned off I get HDCP error even when just using audio.

Any ideas?

I really wanted these new Pioneers, and I have a 1120 on order (how long is this backorder going to last, damn...) but wanted to play with the 1020 till I got it. If this is anything like the 1120 I am running away from them for good. HDMI issues are unacceptable.

My post seems to have gotten buried... Bumping it to see if anyone can help.
post #1145 of 4383
^^^

htpc's are notorious for having handshake issues with hdmi repeaters (i.e. avr's)...

in all likelihood, it's not the avr, it's some type of issue with your card in your pc... the best place to go hunting down this issue is in the htpc fora... there are many people there who have a good handle on firmware versions, etc.

good luck... i know it can be a royal pita to figure out...
post #1146 of 4383
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Originally Posted by brettpearce View Post

Did you ever get this resolved. I cannot get any sound from an analog source whether I have them set up as Zone2 or B speakers. I can hear the analog source thru the main speakers.

Ok, last time I let my sister hook up the zone2 speakers. She didn't realize the binding posts had to be screwed down in order for the banana plugs to be plugged into them and make contact. They are now hooked up properly and pumping tunes out to my patio and pool table area... http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/image...es/redface.gif
post #1147 of 4383
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Originally Posted by ccotenj View Post

^^^

likely because kurolink is turned on...

how do you turn this off, right now when I power up defaults to whatever I used previously eg. HDMI 2, then switches to whatever my harmony remote is program to then it goes to TV/SAT input (the optical 1) then back to my harmony selection

should I have my Pioneer TV connected to this input if I want to see the receiver volume go up and down on the tv screen? this may actually be pretty cool.
post #1148 of 4383
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Originally Posted by JChin View Post

Hi jcmo34, go into PS3 settings under "Video" > HDMI Audio Output is set to Bitstream and also under "Audio" > HDMI Output is set to Bitstream.

Thanks JChin!

Next question, what sound mode do I want to use when watching TV or Blu Rays?
Auto Surround, ALC, Direct or Pure Direct
post #1149 of 4383
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Originally Posted by ccotenj View Post

^^^

htpc's are notorious for having handshake issues with hdmi repeaters (i.e. avr's)...

in all likelihood, it's not the avr, it's some type of issue with your card in your pc... the best place to go hunting down this issue is in the htpc fora... there are many people there who have a good handle on firmware versions, etc.

good luck... i know it can be a royal pita to figure out...

I was hoping that wasnt the problem. I tried an Onkyo 607, H/K 2600, and a Denon 590 before choosing the 1020. None of them has HDMI issues. Figures.

Any ideas on the other issues?
post #1150 of 4383
Has anyone here successfully run any 4 ohm surround speakers, such as the Emotiva ERD-1's, with just the 1020K AVR and no external amps?

Is it safe to do so?
post #1151 of 4383
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Originally Posted by palehorse View Post

Has anyone here successfully run any 4 ohm surround speakers, such as the Emotiva ERD-1's, with just the 1020K AVR and no external amps?

Is it safe to do so?

It would be pushing it.
post #1152 of 4383
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Originally Posted by Banginblaz View Post

I was hoping that wasnt the problem. I tried an Onkyo 607, H/K 2600, and a Denon 590 before choosing the 1020. None of them has HDMI issues. Figures.

Any ideas on the other issues?

All receivers have hdmi handshake issues to some degree. it's more the nature of hdmi than the receivers themselves.
post #1153 of 4383
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Originally Posted by NOAMattD View Post

I'm thinking about buying this receiver and have a question - Does it have HDMI passthrough? By which I mean can I put the receiver in standby and just use the TV speakers if I don't want to fire up my new towers?

Yes but only if the source component supports hdmi control. Works for my bd player but not my hd TiVo.
post #1154 of 4383
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Originally Posted by jcmo34 View Post

Thanks JChin!

Next question, what sound mode do I want to use when watching TV or Blu Rays?
Auto Surround, ALC, Direct or Pure Direct

I've had it on auto and it seems to pick up tv properly, but many of my Blu discs don't get to the HD audio formats no matter what I try. Last night "Green Zone" played in DTS even though DTS-HD is checked on the bd player.

Granted it sounded great, but I don't see the correct format on the display. Yes, I have the bd player set to bitstream, and some titles do play in DTS-HD.

No one has answered back if they are having this problem.
post #1155 of 4383
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Originally Posted by gregoryperkins View Post

I've had it on auto and it seems to pick up tv properly, but many of my Blu discs don't get to the HD audio formats no matter what I try. Last night "Green Zone" played in DTS even though DTS-HD is checked on the bd player.

Granted it sounded great, but I don't see the correct format on the display. Yes, I have the bd player set to bitstream, and some titles do play in DTS-HD.

No one has answered back if they are having this problem.

The fact that some but not all of your titles are playing in DTS-HD stumps me because you've probably already tried everything I've suggested below. That's quite an unusual problem. Even so, here are a couple of things you'll want to check on --

1. Does your BD player have the ability to bitstream DTS-HD? What about DTS Master Audio? (Easiest way to figure this out is to tell us which BluRay player you have). If so, have you selected the proper audio output option in your settings menu? (For example, most, if not all, Samsung BD players have a "Bitstream Re-Encode" option, which downmixes HD audio tracks into standard DTS. This is a good option for those with receivers lacking a DTS-HD decoder, but is NOT what you want to select when bitstreaming to the Pio 1020)

2. Is the DTS-HD soundtrack selected on the Blu Ray movie setup menu?

3. Is your Blu Ray player connected to the 1020 receiver via HDMI? This is the ONLY way you can bitstream HD audio to the 1020.
post #1156 of 4383
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Originally Posted by winston9332 View Post

It would be pushing it.

The reason I ask is that I have a VSX-1120-K model on the way, but I'm not sure if it can handle ERD-1 surrounds at their rated 4 ohms. Are there any steps/precautions I can take to ensure nothing bad happens, other than purchasing an external amplifier for the four surrounds?

I'm getting conflicting advice. Some people think it will be perfectly fine since they are only surround sound speakers, and not mains. Others are saying to avoid 4 ohm speakers altogether.

So, I'm not sure what to do...
post #1157 of 4383
^^^

the best thing to do is "try it"...

the avr will tell you if it isn't happy... thermal protection is a pretty easy thing to pick up on for the user...
post #1158 of 4383
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Originally Posted by quadrophenia View Post

The fact that some but not all of your titles are playing in DTS-HD stumps me because you've probably already tried everything I've suggested below. That's quite an unusual problem. Even so, here are a couple of things you'll want to check on --

1. Does your BD player have the ability to bitstream DTS-HD? What about DTS Master Audio? (Easiest way to figure this out is to tell us which BluRay player you have). If so, have you selected the proper audio output option in your settings menu? (For example, most, if not all, Samsung BD players have a "Bitstream Re-Encode" option, which downmixes HD audio tracks into standard DTS. This is a good option for those with receivers lacking a DTS-HD decoder, but is NOT what you want to select when bitstreaming to the Pio 1020)

2. Is the DTS-HD soundtrack selected on the Blu Ray movie setup menu?

3. Is your Blu Ray player connected to the 1020 receiver via HDMI? This is the ONLY way you can bitstream HD audio to the 1020.

1 yes it is a Panasonic bdp-60
2 yes
3 yes

It worked on my Yamaha. From what you have indicated, it seems to be working for you. DTS-HD did work on at least one movie for me.

It is strange. Thanks,
Greg
post #1159 of 4383
Well, somehow I got a second audio setting toggled on. It is off and I seem to be getting the HD audio properly now. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction.
post #1160 of 4383
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Originally Posted by winston9332 View Post

It would be pushing it.

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Originally Posted by ccotenj View Post

^^^

the best thing to do is "try it"...

the avr will tell you if it isn't happy... thermal protection is a pretty easy thing to pick up on for the user...

Is there anything that can be placed on the lines between the AVR and 4 ohm speakers, besides an external amplifier, that would mitigate the 4-ohm issue?
post #1161 of 4383
I just setup my new 1020 and I'm having a problem. I was hoping someone could point me in the right direction. The video from my Dish Network DVR is flashing every couple of seconds. When I connect the DVR directly to my TV, it works fine with no flashing. But when I connect the DVR to the 1020 and then connect the 1020 to my TV I see the flashing every 2 seconds. This is a very pronounced flash - like the video just stops for 1/2 a second. I'm using only HDMI cables. Connecting my BluRay player through the 1020 to the TV works fine - no flashing. Seems like it's some kind of compatibility issue with the 1020 and my DVR. A person on the Dish Network Msg Board reported the exact same problem and ended up returning the 1020. I'm not ready to give up so quickly, but I'm not sure what to try. Thanks in advance for any help you can offer.
post #1162 of 4383
OK, now that I have the HD audio working, how do I get speakers 6&7 working?

I use a Polk 5 speaker surround bar up front and 2 rears My room doesn't work very well with 3 speakers up front. If the rears aren't active, I get no rear sound.

I could do this in dts with the expand function on advanced surround. On my Yamaha there was a way to get them active, but it was deep in the gui.

Thanks, Greg
post #1163 of 4383
I got a Pioneer VSX 1020 this week and I have been setting it up the last couple of days, toying with the settings, trying to get the best sound and picture. I have a new 65 inch Panasonic Plasma (TC-P65VT25) and I have a DirecTV HR24-500 DVR. I have the 24-500 hooked up thru HDMI and thru the VSX 1020.

My question is how do you turn the video conversion off on the VSX 1020? I have read the instructions and it says to click on the receiver button and then click on the Video Parameter button to cycle thru the options. The instruction booklet shows that the first option is Video conversion and the choices are: Auto, On or OFF. I want to turn it off and let my TV do the processing but when I go into video parameters the only option that I am seeing is either Pure, 480P,720P,1080i,or 1080P. I have it set on Pure since I think this means that it will pass the signal from my DirecTV receiver thru to the TV untouched. Is this correct? I want my Panasonic Plasma to do the scaling of the signal.

Also could someone tell me how to get the menu option to turn the video conversion off? Thanks for anybody's help.
post #1164 of 4383
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Originally Posted by mkingatl View Post

I just setup my new 1020 and I'm having a problem. I was hoping someone could point me in the right direction. The video from my Dish Network DVR is flashing every couple of seconds. When I connect the DVR directly to my TV, it works fine with no flashing. But when I connect the DVR to the 1020 and then connect the 1020 to my TV I see the flashing every 2 seconds. This is a very pronounced flash - like the video just stops for 1/2 a second. I'm using only HDMI cables. Connecting my BluRay player through the 1020 to the TV works fine - no flashing. Seems like it's some kind of compatibility issue with the 1020 and my DVR. A person on the Dish Network Msg Board reported the exact same problem and ended up returning the 1020. I'm not ready to give up so quickly, but I'm not sure what to try. Thanks in advance for any help you can offer.

The only thing I can think of is setting the video processing on the receiver to pure so it passes through the video. It might be a defective chip or for some other reason the chip is trying to upscale/improve the video quality but can't do so properly.
post #1165 of 4383
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Originally Posted by mjm76 View Post

I got a Pioneer VSX 1020 this week and I have been setting it up the last couple of days, toying with the settings, trying to get the best sound and picture. I have a new 65 inch Panasonic Plasma (TC-P65VT25) and I have a DirecTV HR24-500 DVR. I have the 24-500 hooked up thru HDMI and thru the VSX 1020.

My question is how do you turn the video conversion off on the VSX 1020? I have read the instructions and it says to click on the receiver button and then click on the Video Parameter button to cycle thru the options. The instruction booklet shows that the first option is Video conversion and the choices are: Auto, On or OFF. I want to turn it off and let my TV do the processing but when I go into video parameters the only option that I am seeing is either Pure, 480P, 1080i,or 1080P. I have it set on Pure since I think this means that it will pass the signal from my DirecTV receiver thru to the TV untouched. Is this correct? I want my Panasonic Plasma to do the scaling of the signal.

Also could someone tell me how to get the menu option to turn the video conversion off? Thanks for anybody's help.

Pure is untouched (ie 1080i in, 1080i out.)
post #1166 of 4383
[quote= mjm76]
I have it set on Pure since I think this means that it will pass the signal from my DirecTV receiver thru to the TV untouched. Is this correct?[quote]
I believe it is. I also have an HR24-500 connected to my 1020, and there is another reason to use the PURE setting: if the 1020 is allowed to scale the 3d programs, it prevents the TV from interpreting them correctly as 3d.
post #1167 of 4383
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Originally Posted by artmansr View Post

i will try that. thanks!

I used a differenct input from BD and it helped. thanks for the help!!!
post #1168 of 4383
Been getting by with a non-HDMI receiver for ages (Kenwood VR209, so we're talking years ). Still getting my new VSX1020 set up. Any clues to what to do about video/audio sync issues? There's a noticeable lack of sync between people's lip moving and the dialog.

Setup is Dish VP722 source to VSX1020 to Samsung HL61A750 DLP tv, all via HDMI cables.
post #1169 of 4383
Hey there,

I set up my 1020-K a few weeks ago and have been enjoying it. I've got my Comcast 8300 STB on HDMI1, my Xbox 360 on HDMI2 and have been using the front panel iPod/USB hookup to play my wife's iPhone through the receiver. I'm really enjoying it so far.

A weird situation seems to happen when I try and hook up my laptop via HDMI to the front HDMI5 port on the 1020-K. The laptop *occasionally* makes the noise as if a USB item was connected and the screen will flicker; it then goes back to the normal screen and I'm stuck at a blank blue screen on my TV. I've correctly got the 1020-K set to HDMI5 as well. I've been able to use the laptop in this setup directly to the TV previously for video and sound.

One time I was able to cycle through the HDMI inputs and when it came back to HDMI5 the picture was transferred to the TV as I'd hoped. The sound was horrible and would fade in/out. I didn't see anything regarding the receiver's small speaker icons that show up when an audio source is dolby digital or stereo (for example). I unplugged the HDMI cable from the laptop and have not been able to get a picture since.

Does anyone have an idea or a gotcha! that I might have overlooked based on my setup? I hope I've been clear; if not please let me know and I can explain better. I have not yet tried another HDMI input but would like to continue working from front HDMI5 if possible since it's not often I'll have my laptop hooked up. It's very convenient on the front!

Thanks in advance for help, ideas and suggestions.

Sam
post #1170 of 4383
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Originally Posted by avfanatic1 View Post

The only thing I can think of is setting the video processing on the receiver to pure so it passes through the video. It might be a defective chip or for some other reason the chip is trying to upscale/improve the video quality but can't do so properly.

Thanks for the help. I will try that. I spent hours reading about it last night and apparently the ViP 612 DVR from Dish Network has this problem with various receivers, and it's related to HDCP.
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