The "Official" Pioneer VSX-1020-K Owner's Thread - Page 45

That happened to me last night too. I noticed I had my HD DVD player on also, so I turned it off (and freeing up the network connection bandwidth too) and cycled power on the receiver and all was fine. Could it be some kind of problem where too much bandwidth on the network kills the receiver connection?

I realize the replies may be a bit bias, but I 'll ask anyway -

I'm about to go and buy this receiver to replace an Onkyo TX-SR508. The Onkyo sound cuts out frequently and their support said to send it back. I think I like the idea of the 6 HDMI inputs on this receiver.

Question is simple - should I buy this receiver or after having experience with it, should I shop a different unit?

I'm connecting a PS3, PS2, Wii, DirectTV to it. The HDMI on my TV is shot so I connect video via component until I buy a new TV for x-mas.


Thanks,
Joe

I really doubt it... the bandwidth needed is minimal.... if your network couldn't sustain the bandwidth needed for Internet radio and whatever the hddvd player could possibly be doing, you'd have bigger issues than this...

unless the HD-DVD player was actually doing something, turning it off didn't save any bandwidth...

using a static ip address has almost always proven to work better...

as far as why... if I had to guess, the avrs don't always deal gracefully with dhcp, and that the highly variable results (some have no issues, others can't stay connected at all) point to it being "router dependent"...

I am using a static address for the AVR. Definitely seeing flakiness again tonight. NME radio seems to work fine. I have some stations on here that are broken, I wonder if that might be messing it up...?

That's what I tried. But for me, the option to select an HDMI port was grayed out and could not be selected. Although the HDMI input field was shown right under the Digital In option, not a single source allowed it to be edited.

After digging some more, I discovered how to enable this feature. The reason it was disabled was because I had "Control with HDMI" turned on. This is hinted at on page 41 of the manual, just under the Input Functions table. It is the footnote (a) and says "With Control set to ON in the HDMI Setup, assignments cannot be made (see page 62)." Going to page 62 shows how to turn it off:

• Home Menu
• System Setup
• Other Setup
• HDMI Setup
• Change Control to OFF

Maybe this will help someone else. I'm not clear on what I might be losing by turning this off, but since I don't have any other Pioneer components, I'm probably safe. I haven't tried setting an input this way, since HDMI1 works with OPT-1. But I may experiment with it another day.

Tauren

Thanks for the tip. Setting my fronts to small seems to have enabled the subwoofer. I'll need to experiment with things now to find the best crossover frequency and such.

I'd like to see some more information on this, the documentation is a bit hazy. I have a BDP-320 blu-ray player (currently out for service), will I not be able to use PQLS unless I enable Control with HDMI? That would prevent me from assigning HDMI inputs to TV-SAT and others, not acceptable!

Yes, am now on my 2nd receiver and having the same problem. This one, after about 30 mins, seems to go to sleep and drop off the network. I can power-cycle the receiver and it comes back, but only for the next 30 mins or so.

I'm now on my 2nd receiver (returned the 1st one because I thought it was a hardware issue on that particular unit). However, same behavior....30 mins after power on the ethernet connection just goes to sleep so Internet Radio isn't available and the iPhoneAV app won't work. Have tried static and DHCP but doesn't seem to make a difference.

I don't really know anything about PQLS or an answer to your question. But i found Nick's answer in the following thread to be very helpful. Maybe it will help you too:
http://www.avforums.com/forums/pione...qls-worth.html

I am having a problem with ipod on this Pioneer vsx 1020k unit - I get a "Generation Err". Didn't see anything in the manual about this. I haven't tried just taking the output from the ipod directly to one of the available inputs - I used to do that with my old ONKYO.

My ipod is pre video, does that make it an older generation?

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yes. it sounds like your ipod is too old to work. which one is it, and which gen?

the way you did it on your onkyo will work...

yes.

rather than assigning the hdmi inputs to various inputs, just use the hdmi inputs themselves... unless you need to override the audio on an hdmi stream, it doesn't make any difference if you do it this way...

fwiw... i used pqls for a long time... if you can't use it, it won't be the end of the world...

I just purchased the pioneer 1020K and hooked it up to my mirage speakers using a 5.1 configuration. When I play the avatar blue ray my receiver will only recognize DTS and does not display DTS-HD. My blu-ray player is a fairly new player and has DTS-HD.

Is DTS-HD only available in 7.1? What am I missing?

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your avr is displaying what it is receiving...

you need to do one (or both) of two things...

1) go into your bdp's setup menu and make sure the options to bitstream the high rez codecs are correct...

and...

2) some movies don't automatically default to the high-rez track... they default to the lossy one...

I currently don't have any way to play Blu Ray, but I'm looking to be able to play it through my Pioneer VSX-1020-K onto my Mitsubishi HC5500 projector. What works well for other 1020 owners?

As I see it, I have three options:

1. Get a dedicated BD player
2. Get a Sony PS3
3. Get an HTPC

I don't really know enough about the technical details, such as how to get the best audio and video out of the system. Are there any strong advantages or disadvantages to going with any of these solutions? In particular, does one option work better with my AVR or projector than another?

My objectives are the following:

1. Play Blu Ray disks
2. Play DVDs
3. Play NetFlix
4. Play Pandora

My thoughts on this are as follows:

1. I currently have a Wii with the NetFlix disk, but it is in a different room. I could move it, but am concerned about reduced video quality and limitations of the Wii NetFlix app.

2. I've been connecting my MacBook Pro to play NetFlix and Pandora. But I'd like to be able to use my MBP while something is playing. And for some reason the size of the picture output from this device is smaller than the screen frame while other devices fill it perfectly.

3. I have a Philips DVP5982 progressive scan DVD player that is a couple years old hooked up via HDMI. It can play DIVX as well. It's slow, but could be part of the system if necessary.

4. I'd love to get a new MacMini with HDMI, but unfortunately they don't support BD without effort. There are some windows-bases mini form factor PCs (like from Dell, etc.) that could fit the bill. But I'm concerned this option won't fill the screen frame (like described above with my MBP). My preference is Linux or OSX, but I could live with Windows if necessary.

4. I'm not much of a gamer, so the main purpose of getting a PS3 would be simply for BluRay movies. It might get used for games a little, but probably not a lot. Are there audio, video, or ease-of-use drawbacks to going this route?

I'm open to any ideas and suggestions.

Thanks!
Tauren

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answer: #1: get a dedicated bd player...

since you aren't a gamer, the ps3 doesn't buy you anything...

htpc's are a pita...

ps: check your video options on your mbp... i use (well, used, i use my tivo box now) my mac mini to stream netflix with no screen sizing issues...

Hey, I have 2 HTPC's and love them...
I can do so much more than a dedicated BD Player.
I was actually in yowzator place thinking of getting a PS3 or an HTPC.
I do not game a lot so I went with the HTPC.

I have all of my Blu-Ray's stored on my Hard Drive and can call them up at anytime..
Internet TV is taking off now, not to mention p2p, I Stream all of the Dolphin Games from NY, among others.
Sometimes it's via London BBC with Brit commentators and usually a former NFL PLayer sitting in, it's weird to hear British accents talking about the first Half etc..LOL!
I can even see their whacky commercials.

Through Windows 7 "HomeGroup" and my Router I can access each computer, my sisters came for a visit and we could sit in the Living Room with my Pioneer 50" Kuro and watch Picture slideshows and Stream Home Video from my Computer upstairs, no lag time, it was as if I was at my other Computer, yet in the comfort of my Living room.
Though I think that you CAN do this with a PS3 as well.

My HTPC Downstairs, a HP Pavilion Elite 112Y has HDMI, Blu-Ray and WiFi.
It works great with the net and all I had to do was plug it into my Plasma, set up the WiFi and I was good to go. It plays every Blu-ray (Knock on Wood) Flawlessly!
As the saying goes...The World is my Oyster!

I am planning on connecting the new Pioneer VSX 1120K to my HP via HDMI for my Audio.
Unlike the PS3's, (I see those Posts) Computer's seem to match right up too the Pioneers.
I will have the 1120 downstairs and I already have the 1020 matched up with my Gateway HTPC upstairs.
Two sweet setups.

Lastly with a PS3 it is what it is, you cannot change the Video Card or Hard Drive, add this or change that, it is all proprietary.
This weekend I put a XFX ATI Radeon HD5770 Graphics card into my Gateway,
Yea, I will be doing some Gaming on that.

Plus the whole PS3 Games that are not Backwards compatible with the PS2's and PS2's to PS3's it's Crazy! I did not like that!

So anyway that's my HTPC rant, it is not for everyone, and some if not most of these things can also be done on a PS3 not to mention my HP HTPC cost me about $800.00 compared to $300.00 for a PS3, lot's to consider yowzator.
I wanted some more freedom with my HTPC and still have the possibility to Game as well

As I said, I've been where you are now, the above was my solution.

Good Luck with yours.
Bud

I am on my second one also (VSX-32) and the problem is identical to yours. I am trying a suggestion from someone else on the board that setting the static IP to an adress outside the routers normal range might help. I have a couple of other things I am going to try since I find it hard to believe that I happened to get 2 bad units. I will report back if I find a solution.

I'll give that solution a try as well and report back.

I still might do some gaming, and perhaps there are some games my 7 year old daughter would like that aren't available on the Wii. But granted, that isn't the focus.

So what does the PS3 buy me? Just gaming? Or are there other advantages over a dedicated BDP? My understanding is that the PS3 can be used as a media player for a central home media server as well, or was that XBOX?


I'm certainly also leaning toward an HTPC, but they are more expensive and I'm guessing harder to integrate. They do offer the most features. However, I'd prefer to set up a powerful home media server and have lighter-weight media players at each TV location. A cheap HTPC would work, but would a PS3 do the trick as well?

What are the cons to a PS3? They don't work well with the Pioneer AVRs?

Thanks to both of you for your input!

Tauren

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nope, ps3 works just fine with pio avr's... as a matter of fact, ps3 works pretty much "best" with ALL avr's, simply because it's a test bed for just about everyone... it's fast, it processes well, and sony has a vested interest in pumping out firmware as soon as it's needed... if i hadn't have bought an oppo to replace my ancient sony player, i likely would have bought a ps3...

the ps3 is a really good option... i only said it doesn't buy you anything over a standalone player if you aren't a gamer and all you wanted was what you listed...

I'm afraid that solution didn't work for me...will continue to research and try options.

It could be some setting on your ethernet box. I am using DHCP and, even then, I am not seeing any drop offs (the internet radio keeps playing till I turn it off). I think your ethernet box is going to sleep when there is no activity from your side. Try hooking the same port (which is going to 1020) to a laptop/PC and leave it playing the same internet radio station - though this may not be a conclusive test since laptop might have a different handshaking mechanism with the ethernet box.

Sorry for the silly question but I can't find this on PioElectronic's website/info on the 1020k.

Can you edit the names of the inputs for the front panel display?

Does this AVR overlay GUI on video playback (I mean volume level on screen when changed and watching HDMI output).

It didn't work for me either. I am now connected directly to my main wired router (still have same problem) and am going to try lowering MTU and a few other tweaks to see if it helps. I will also swap my main Linksys BEFSR81 router with my Dlink DIR-825 to see if it could be the linksys. What router/bridge are you using? Is you ISP Comcast and is your cable modem a telephony modem?


All other devices connected to the same ports work just fine...laptop, PS3, Xbox. It's definetly something with the receiver only.

Yes you can change input names and you can see volume on the screen at least with my sharp but I turned it off.

I'm actually on a 2Wire router with AT&T Uverse service but served off of a linksys gigabit switch. I may try to bypass the switch and/or insert a 100MB hub to see if the gigabit port has anything to do with it. To be clear, after a short while it's as if the receiver goes to sleep...the router sees it as an "inactive" device and won't route any traffic to it. Like you have have many other devices on the network (PCs, Blu-Ray, Xbox) and they are all fine.

Hey folks,quick qn:
I've my HTPC routed to TV via 1020K. My OS is Ubuntu and of late,there seems to be some sort of lip-sync issues developing with the receiver. I've been using it for last 4-5 months or so,but I'm experiencing the lip-sync issues. The file if played without the receiver, runs just fine. (Like WinXP or Win7 OS). But when run on Ubuntu using VLC or moviePlayer, ther is some delay. Any ideas? Need to see the adjustments with audio delay parameters as somebody suggested on 67-68 of pages of manual.

thanks!

I have tried everything I can think of with no success. I am going to the Comcast office tomorrow to swap the Arris telephony modem for a Motorola modem to see if that helps. If that doesn't fix it I will be returning the AVR to best buy for a refund before my 30 days are up and buying something else since Pioneer denies there is a problem. It's too bad because I really like this receiver otherwise.