The "Official" Pioneer VSX-1020-K Owner's Thread - Page 58

I just had a 1020K sitting in for my Marantz 7001 while it was in the shop. My main speakers are the RTi8s, which I bi-wired because that was what I had done with the 7001. I also have RTi4 surrounds, CS2 center channel, and SVS PB10 sub. While I really liked the 1020K, I felt like it was a bit underpowered even with the RTi8s, so I'm wondering how well the RTi12s are going to work out. I think if I were to replace the 7001, I'd go up to the 1120 for the extra power and also the pre-outs that would enable the use of an external amp.

I was wondering about the 1020k being underpowered. As of right now the rti12's don't sound marginally better than my old speakers. This may be a stupid question but how can I tell if they are underpowered? Right now, they sound a little bright to me.

i have a harmony 1100.. and lets say i watch tv.. then i turn everything off.. now i click play PS3, everything turns on fine but the receiver is still set on the current input i turned it off with.. i have kuro link off.. this is really annoying how do i fix this?

You can go in and change the order of things the Harmony does. Change the input selection to one of the last things in the activity.

its already the last thing on the activity

Is the HDMI control turned off? It may help. On page 63..

HDMI Setup
You must adjust the settings of this receiver as
well as Control with HDMI-compatible
connected components in order to make use of
the Control with HDMI function. For more
information see the operating instructions for
each component.
1 Press , then press Home Menu.
2 Select System Setup', then press ENTER.
3 Select Other Setup', then press ENTER.
4 Select HDMI Setup', then press ENTER.
5 Select the Control' setting you want.
Choose whether to set this unit's Control with
HDMI function ON or OFF. You will need to set
it to ON to use the Control with HDMI
function.
When using a component that does not
support the Control with HDMI function, set
this to OFF.
ON - Enables the Control with HDMI
function. When this unit's power is turned
off and you have a supported source begin
playback while using the Control with
HDMI function, the audio and video output
from the HDMI connection are output from
the TV.
OFF - The Control with HDMI is disabled.
Synchronized operations cannot be used.
When this unit's power is turned off, audio
and video of sources connected via HDMI
are not output.

ive tried with ON and OFF .. it still does it, when im watching tv and i wanna switch to ps3 or xbox or whatever.. everything works fine.. its only when everything is off and i click play ps3 when the last thing i did was watch tv.. the ps3 turns on tv turns on.. receiver turns on but never goes to the BD input.. i always have to click help on my harmon remote and then it switches it to the correct input.. has anyone else have this problem?

Well I thought the 1020K in general sounded very nice with the RTi8s. I was especially impressed with MCACC, as I was expecting it to be inferior to the Audyssey on my 7001. Where I noticed a difference was in loud, dynamic passages, the 1020K just didn't seem to take the RTi8s where the 7001 took them and I'm attributing this to the difference in power. Prior to the 7001, I had a 4001 on the RTi8s (80w x 7 vs. 110w x 7 from the 7001), which is probably more comparable to the 1020K and I noticed the same thing when I upgraded. In think the only way you'd notice the difference is to do some listening with a more powerful avr/amp and see. Also, the RTi series is perceived by many as being "bright", although not by me, probably because I'm a middle aged, half deaf audio mixer.

You might want to try changing the delays on the Harmony for the receiver. It's likely that the signal to switch inputs is being sent before the receiver is ready to process it in the cases where the receiver is not already on.

I had a similar problem and had to up the delay to something like 4.5 seconds on my Harmony 650.

well I do have the HK PA2000. Could I hook up directly to my ipod or something to see how much difference it makes?

How do you force a Dolby Digital sound track on a DVD to Dolby ProLogic IIz ?

You'll need some sort of pre-amp to do that. Also, I think a source like a cd player would be more revealing.

Stew, absolutely you can. I just helped my friend hook up her Mitsubishi 3d adapter to the 1020. They have a Motorola DCX3400 (Comcast) and a Sony bds 470 (bluray) and both work perfect through the 1020 and then through the Mitsubishi 3d adapter. But, you'll have to turn off the hdmi netlink feature on the Mitsubishi tv in order for all this to work. I couldn't figure this out as I got a blue screen. Then, I called Mitsubishi support and they had me enter several codes on the remote for the Mitsubishi which brought an on screen menu and from there, I turned off the hdmi link.

Thanks skatze

Thanks for the help. I'm going to return the 1020k and buy the 1120 so I can use the amp. Every review I've read on the RTi12's say that they need some serious power.

Can I biamp the speakers using both the HKPA2000 (for the lower drivers) and the 1120k (for the top end)?

I would think so. If you do it in that fashion, you'll actually be biamping instead of just biwiring. Just make sure to use the appropriate pre-out to feed the HK. Post back once you've had a chance to give it a good listen.

On your harmony remote settings, under device tab, select the receiver (settings), then adjust the delays (speed settings). Try changing Power on delay to: 4000ms and Input delay to: 500ms. Then update the remote. Mine is set up this way and it seems to be working. I have a Harmony 880 though> not too sure about the harmony gui interface differences between other remotes.

I am having some major issues with my 1020. I had the 1019 and it kept turning off at all different times. It worked fine for months and then started turning off during movies, tv shows, news, anything. I thought the receiver was bad so I returned since it was still less than a year old and received the 1020. I am still having the same problems and it sounds terrible, all kinds of static noise. Please help with ideas of how to fix. Thanks

What connections do you use for video in/out?

Have you ohmed out all your speakers to see if they are the proper values as spec'd ?

HDMI

No I have not, like I said before this system worked just fine before, now it sounds horrible and the receiver keeps turning off when the volume is up.

Hi Thorgy, clarify "receiver keeps turning off" meaning? Power completly off or no sound from speakers?

What speakers are connected?

Have you double check all speaker wires connection making sure no wire shrand is shorting to the receiver or speaker or shorted anywhere in the speaker wire itself?

Do this happen when playing the tuner?

If this is happening with two different units, it sounds like you've got a short somewhere. Does the unit still shut down with nothing connected to it? If not, then power off the 1020, hook up one speaker and power back on. Observe for some time, if the unit hasn't shut down, power down again and hook up the next speaker, repeat this procedure until you find the culprit.

The unit completely turns off

I have Klipsch speakers hooked up, 5.1 system, only 1 year old

Checked all speaker connections, seems to be no loose strands

Have not tried tuner, live in the country and do not get good signal

I will try hooking up one speaker at a time

jchin and adrman thank you for your help

adrman, you were correct, I hooked up one speaker at a time and found that it was the front left speaker that was the culprit

I will be taking the speaker to the store, hopefully they will replace it since it is less than a year old

At first I thought it was the speaker wire, I replaced it and the receiver still shut off

I hooked up a different speaker and it worked fine

Thanks again to all that helped me with this very frustrating issue

Thorgy

^^^ that is great news, good luck.

I've been using an older Sony receiver in the living room for years and today replaced it with a 1020.

When I ran MCACC it said that my rear speakers might be out of phase (red and black hooked up incorrectly). The wiring goes through the wall and it would be very difficult for me to check the complete speaker wiring. However, where it connects to the AVR, the ends are marked with Red/Black and are connected to banana clips.

It's the same way I had the Sony hooked up for years without problem.

I reversed the black/red (red banana clip now on the black terminal) on one speaker and it now said that speaker was OK, but the other was still incorrect. It also now stated that the Center was also incorrect (didn't say this the first time). The center is wired directly and I could see that it was correct, so not sure why MCACC said they were reversed?

I reversed the other rear (but not the center) and ran MCACC again and now everything came up OK, so I completed MCACC.

Questions:

Could I have had them reversed for the last 6 years with my Sony and they still worked fine?
Why would it say my center was hooked up incorrectly when it wasn't?
Should I assume it's fine now and keep them reversed at the 1020 terminals?
If they're actually wrong now (and were correct before) and I continue to use them this way, what's the end result?

I too had the 1020 tell me that my left rear surround was out of phase. I ran MCACC again, only to get the same result. I "told" the 1020 that it was okay and moved on. I had replaced a 6 year old Onkyo with the 1020, so it was running like this for 6 years. However, this "phase error" was still in the back of my mind.

Your post inspired me to double check for the correct wiring, so up in the crawl space I went...After that fun ordeal...the wiring turned out to be correct!!

Not too sure whats going on..

Hello everyone,
I have a Pioneer 1020 with a Def Tech 42 sound bar and sub for my home theater. I also have a pair of Def Tech promonitor 800s in another room as zone 2. I have been trying to hook it up so I can watch sports (muted) while listening to music in both zones (like when we have people over). I have accomplished this by running the hdmi directly from the cable box to the tv, then a digital audio cable from the cable box to the reciever. Then I can set the TV to that hdmi input, while selecting a music source for the stereo.
Problems: I can't control the ipod unless I use an rca hookup on the back, and it doesn't charge it????
I don't get the digital upgrading on the cable???
I feel there is a better way to hook this up???
Is there a way to use the ipod hookup, but use the ipod controls???

Also, does setting the crossover at 80 on the reciever affect what signal goes to zone2?

glad you found the problem