The "Official" Pioneer VSX-1020-K Owner's Thread - Page 84

long time listner, first time caller...

I really dig this new VSX. Having had a bunch of older recievers, this is my first 'new' reciever with HDMI inputs.

All of my prior recievers had a redundant OSD on the video output that would display volume, source etc etc..

I see that the only OSD is with MCACC....Can I not see my volume or source or whatever on my plasma? I have the reciever in a little cubby that is low and is difficult to see over my coffee table, esspecially when Im sittin back in the couch with a soldier between my thumb and forefinger.

Please tell me that Ive missed something and that this reciever can display info on my screen that is already displayed on the front panel.

Thanks for all the info you all have provided. Ive read this whole thread and there isnt a mention of this. Maybe Im too old school and the new generation of recievers stopped doing this.

**Edit**
Ive turned off all the HDMI controls...I have a Samsung PN58C6400 & PS3

RichYak - thanks, I have already posted in there (first place i posted). My concern is now that i have bypassed the VSX and connected the HDMI inputs directly to the TV, I have not experienced any "blink" in two days.

This leads me to believe that either I have received a second HDMI-defective VSX or there is some sort of compatibility issue between ALL VSX-1020 and Samsung TVs like mine.....should I consider upgrading to the next VSX model?

I just did a side-by-side comparison of the VSX-1020-k to the VSX-1120-k (http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/po...003367a8c0RCRD) .

In looking at the "Video Processing" comparisons:


HDMI to HDMI Video Scaler--> VSX-1120-k: 1080p /24fps VSX-1020-k: 1080p

Would the 24fps limitation of the VSX-1020 possibly have some impact on the compatibility with the Sammy TV???

What does the "up mix" icon on the display panel do? I can't seem to turn it off and I can't find any info in the manual.

Hi there, Just got my receiver from BB as well and am loving it! I'm still in the process of fixing little issues but all is well. Your issue I had as well, in my case it turns out MCACC setup my tower speakers as large for some reason. Once I manually turned all speakers to small the sub took over when playing music. I don't know if changing them to small had any effect on my movie watching yet but I will find out tonight.

Thanks looter...Is this from experience (i.e. you've done it) or from something you read? I couldn't find it in the user manual. I hear the 1120-K supports it.

Easy, just login to your IP address of the receiver via safari on your itouch. It will bring up the radio list and just click update beside the one you want to listen to.

Thanks, that's a great work-around that I probably wouldn't have thought of. One would think that functionality should be easy enough for the programmers at Pioneer to build into the iPod app as well.

Hello,

I have been a long time follower of this forum, but first time poster. I love me new 1020, it is a replacement for an old dead elite.

So here are my questions.

1. When I switch sources from Digital Cable, Xbox, BluRay, etc - there is always a 3-5 second pause. I have tried to have the avr not alter the video output, but I am not sure if that is the issue. Any suggestions?

2. When I select different sources my Sharp Aquas display keeps displaying that an incompatible audio source is being received. AFAIK there is no audio being outputted to the TV - just an HDMI cable for video....

3. (and last) I have my Apple TV2 hooked up via HDMI & TOS cable. I receive audio and video fine when I want to watch movies, video etc. I have renamed the CD source to AppleTV Audio, and I receive audio over the TOS cable & HDMI, but it does not transfer to ZONE 2 - even tho it is an option. Does ZONE 2 just support RCA audio?

Hopefully someone can help shed some light on my questions. Keep up the great work people!

Jeff

Whaaaat?! Little Soldier?

Yeah, I don't think they do this anymore. I've never had a receiver that did. I've had two Onkyos and the Pioneer so far.

Go into the Sharp GUI and set speakers to "off." See if that helps.

I will check again, but I am fairly sure they are disabled or OFF....

I posted after midnight last night but dont see it anymore so posting again. New to surruound sound/receivers. Equipment VSX-1020-K, Infinity TSS 800 speakers (5.1). The 1020K does not have a setup for 5.1 so when i run the auto calibration i get errors. I did run the manual and got tones out of all my speakers. but when I operate the system with from Direct TV (hdmi to rec, hdmi to tv) or when using the tuner I only get sound from my front/center speakers. I've tried playing around with the "Listening Mode" switches on the remote but no luck. Any ideas/suggestions. thanks

Okay going to reply to my own post, lol. Been working on this for 24 hrs then bingo. For anyone having the same problem here is what I did. Ran the full auto calibration setup. Received erros which gave me two gui options. Retry or Next, when I did the next/continue options it redid the test but with only the speakers it had picked up during the full auto calibration. I'm going to leave the post as is because I search for hours last night to try and find a post on my problem. Maybe it will help someone in the future.

1. I think this is just an HDMI handshaking delay when switching inputs.

2. Does this happen to every single source or just certain ones? If it's only certain ones it might help to list what they are and how you have them connected to your 1020k.

3. From what I have read, Zone 2 does not accept digital sources only analog.

Thanks for the speedy reply.

1. That is what I thought.

2. Every single source. I will chalk it up to #1 for my "picky-ness"

3. That is the conclusion I came to also. I was hoping I was wrong tho.

All and all an awesome receiver. I bought it from Futureshop when they were on sale for $699 and it came with an iPod touch, then I received a $50 Gift card for price match... Can not complain at all

Jeff

I would never have figured that out on my own. I'll give this a try later tonight and report back. Thanks for the tip.

Regarding the HDMI handshake time, the time it takes to change sources, does anyone know if that can be reduced any way. I tried to turn off V-CONV but I can't get that to show up when I'm in HDMI as a menu option, it only shows up in TV/SAT, which isn't even getting video. I remain confused about that setting and if there are any variables that effect the time delay to change inputs.

I am still having trouble with my set-up as well. My problems are almost identical, based on his description, to that of KPM7668. Like he I am having intermittent blackout issues on all of my sources when my system is powered up from "off". When the sources are connected directly to the TV problems go away. (Don't care for this scenario since it defeats the purpose of why I purchased this receiver in the first place which is its HDMI switching ability.) I feel like KPM in that this fact alone points squarely to the receiver as being the culprit...Oh yeah and I am also on my second receiver and have replaced cables with NEW hdmi cables. Still nothing fixed.

My compnents are:
Samsung LED LCD Model#UN55C6900 (Not 3d) (New) Has most recent firmware update
Scientific Atlanta HD8300 Cable Box (2007)
Pioneer Receiver model #VSX-1020-K (New)
Samsung Bluray Model#BC6500 (New)
LG DVD/VCR combo (Several years old)
Remote Harmony 880

NOTE: All components connected via HDMI to the receiver and then receiver to Samsung panel.

Right now my most irritating issue is with my DVR/Cable box since I use it most. Every other time I power up my system with that as the source the video flickers and comes up apparently ok...20-30 seconds later it goes black. I am having similar but less irritating problems with my BRP and DVD. The best i can tell the issues only happen as everything is being powered up from "off". If I am changing sources, everything seems to work fine.

I am no expert where HDMI is concerned I definite think that it has something to do with the Pioneer and Samsung not communicating effectively via HDMI. It seems that once you get the video working on screen with one source all other sources will work fine until everything is powered "off". It feels like some sort of HDMI video translation issue between the receiver and the TV....The receiver in the path of the HDMI signal = problems. No receiver in path = No problems but not ideal.

Spoke with Mike Lopez at Pioneer tech support on Friday and he told me to turn HDMI control in the receiver setup to "Off" and I thought that it worked at first, but like most of what I have done up until now the problem is gone for a bit and then it comes back the same as or similar to before. I plan to call him back today when I get home to tell him that his suggestions did not "stick". (I would suggest anyone having problems of any kind to call Mike at tech support. According to him he has not heard of any problems like what I am having....could be bunk, but I will take that at face value. I am hoping that if more people call them complaining about this issue, or any other for that matter, they will be more inclined to fix it.) The fact is that they need to figure out where the problem is and correct it....even if it is a component compatibility issue.

In summary the issues that I am having are very frustrating considering all that I have done and tried. It doesn't help that when you do something everything seems to work fine only to find out later that it isn't. The issues can be fixed simply by turning the source off and back on again....but I should not have to do that.

If I get any new revelations about this issue from Pioneer I will be sure and post it.

Thanks

PitMan

Hey PitMan - sorry you're having the same problems as i am (but i guess misery loves company just to confirm it is not something we are doing). In doing some more extensive research, i have decided to return the VSX-1020-k and upgrade to the VSX-1120-k. My reasoning is that they use different 'chip-sets' for their HDMI input/outputs. Here is an excerpt from the Audioholics review http://www.audioholics.com/reviews/r...-vsx-1120-k-fl of the VSX-1120-k that lead me to that conclusion:

Lastly, Pioneer has upgraded their video upconversion system from the Anchor Bay ABT1015 chipset to Marvel. The Marvel chipset upconverts everything including digital HDMI signals to 1080p. Pioneer also has implemented their PureCinema processing which includes 3D noise reduction and Y/C color separation. For those looking for the best video processing in the Pioneer-branded line - the VSX-1120-K is it.

Once I receive the VSX-1120-k i will connect, test and get back to you!

~ Kevin

have you tried setting your speakers up as small? this might help. and does your m70s have a high crisp sound, like your high ends are really high?

hi all - New in the forum and new pio 1020 k owner

Could anyone please confirm this comment from an amazon reviewer?

I have not unplugged my Pio 1020 k yet...but wondering if this is true and I have to set everything everytime that I have power outrage.

This receiver does a nice job for movies, however there are a few major drawbacks that were deal-breakers for me. The first issue I have is that there is no backup battery to store your settings. This means that you go through all of the work to set everything up and if the unit is ever unplugged or if your power flickers in the home (happens here all the time), you have to go back in and reset everything which is a huge pain. Even when I had the receiver plugged in the whole time with constant power it was still keeping some settings and dropping others back to factory defaults.

Looking to see how to change from PCM to Dolby in audio on the VSX-1020-k
I've tried many things and can't seem to find the menu for audio. If I put a Blue Ray in it plays in PCM when it should play in DTS HD but it's not. Any Help

Based on some recent experiences, check all the audio settings in your blu-ray player before messing with the pioneer. That's likely where you need to focus. Otherwise the most bottom left button on the Pioneer remote-- AUTO/

no... it is not true... the avr will not lose it's settings due to a power failure (or being unplugged, ftm)...

Yes thats where the problem was. In my audio settings in the PS3. All the PCM channels where selected. I just unchecked them now I get digital sound. Thank you for your help. The receiver is Awesome.

still reading through this massive thread and the manual so my apologies if this is a dumb question but i have an older laptop (so no hdmi port) and its the only pc in the house so how would i connect my pc to the av?

It will be on your network it should say VSX-1020 just click on it and it should take you to the av's ip address. Make sure you have your receiver on a hard wire and on your network in order to connect to it.
GO DUCKS!!!!!!!!!!

thanks. i also found some info in the manual. but would this let me play sound from my pc? i'd rather have pandora than the other internet stations plus i already have a massive collection of movies and music on my pc. so would hooking the av up to the router and my pc to the router, would that let me be able to play pandora on the pc and have the sound come through my home theater speakers?

btw, there is NO WAY cam newton and auburn loses to oregon tonight. but i am rooting for a good game more than a specific team

Thanks Chris!

I got my music from my Mac over via Wi Fi as hard wiring the 1020 would be a major pain given it's location