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post #4411 of 4530
Problem solved! It turns out that the headphone jack was acting up and the receiver incorrectly thought that headphones were plugged in. This would cause speaker A to shut off.

After disconnecting and reconnecting everything attached to the receiver and giving the area a thorough clean, I was still encountering the problem - my A speakers were still clicking on and off at random intervals. I then happened to notice an error on the front of the receiver that said "Phones In" when I tried to go to the receiver's home menu, but nothing was actually plugged in. This was my ah-ha moment. Sure enough, I plugged a set of phones and then removed them, and my A's were available again. I used a q-tip and a bit of rubbing alcohol to gently clean the port and haven't run into the problem in the 2-3 hours that I've had it on since then.

I'm not sure what actually caused the problem in the first place, but hopefully it was just a bit of dirt or or something in the port. If it happens again, I at least know the problem and it should be easy enough to fix.
post #4412 of 4530

Great!

Cheap and easy.

Just how I like them. ;)

Thanks for sharing the solution in case anyone else runs into the same strange problem.

post #4413 of 4530
Hi, I've owned a flawless 1020 for 3 years, but am hoping to get some help with 2 problems that I have lived with for a while. My setup is a 5.1 with no zone2 or speakers B (not even sure the difference, but I think zone2 means different source).

1) I see in an earlier page that video can be played via HDMI and audio via a different source from optical input. I'm wondering if I can also play video from HDMI (cable or xbox) and have audio playing from an analog source connected to the CD input via RCA?

2) My centre speaker dialogue has always been low, especially in digital movies (low dialogue, loud explosion sounds). Can anyway recommend some settings, or EQ adjustments thats can help bring more dialogue? I heard AVControl has a dialogue option, but I do not have an idevice and there is no android app for the 1020.

Thanks for anyway who can offer suggestions!
post #4414 of 4530
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Originally Posted by KnawJB View Post

2) My centre speaker dialogue has always been low, especially in digital movies (low dialogue, loud explosion sounds). Can anyway recommend some settings, or EQ adjustments thats can help bring more dialogue? I heard AVControl has a dialogue option, but I do not have an idevice and there is no android app for the 1020.

Thanks for anyway who can offer suggestions!

The thing that made the most difference for me may be of use to you, but doesn't involve any of the things you suggest.

Our ears and brain are much more sensitive to differences left and right than they are to vertical differences. All horizontal center speakers cause lobing because they are made to fit in a horizontal space over or under the television. Lobing is when sound waves reinforce and cancel. The sound is not perceived as coming from a single point because the drivers are horizontal.

Lobing is easy to solve if your TV is placed high enough, especially if it is anchored to the wall instead of on a stand. Just get a third Left Right speaker and use it as your Center. This has made dialogue a lot more intelligible and pinpoint for me.
post #4415 of 4530
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Originally Posted by dxjnorto View Post

The thing that made the most difference for me may be of use to you, but doesn't involve any of the things you suggest.

Our ears and brain are much more sensitive to differences left and right than they are to vertical differences. All horizontal center speakers cause lobing because they are made to fit in a horizontal space over or under the television. Lobing is when sound waves reinforce and cancel. The sound is not perceived as coming from a single point because the drivers are horizontal.

Lobing is easy to solve if your TV is placed high enough, especially if it is anchored to the wall instead of on a stand. Just get a third Left Right speaker and use it as your Center. This has made dialogue a lot more intelligible and pinpoint for me.

Thanks for the tip, but I cant really afford to buy new speakers at this time and my tv cannot be wall mouted given my rental regulations/concrete wall behind it. Hoping to have some adjustment suggested to some settings, since this receiver has a million of them!
post #4416 of 4530
Do what I did. Get a pair of Sanus equipment racks, put the tower speaker between them and the TV on top.

There's a convenient space on top of the center speaker for keeping remotes from being misplaced.
post #4417 of 4530

One more time:

post #4362

"Dialog enhancement is described on p. 68 of the user manual, 4th setting down from the top of the page."

post #4418 of 4530
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Originally Posted by KnawJB View Post

2) My centre speaker dialogue has always been low, especially in digital movies (low dialogue, loud explosion sounds). Can anyway recommend some settings, or EQ adjustments thats can help bring more dialogue? I heard AVControl has a dialogue option, but I do not have an idevice and there is no android app for the 1020.

Well the reason for the "low dialogue, loud explosion" phenomenon in movies (especially in blu-rays but also in DVDs) is the large audio dynamic range. Movies are ideally meant to be played very loud, so that dialogues are at normal voice level, and explosions... well, they're pretty loud smile.gif

However quite few people are prepared to play movies at reference levels (0 dB). It's one solution though: when played loud on a properly calibrated system, you should hear dialogues pretty well, even when whispered. The solution if you don't want to go that loud is to compress the dynamic range.

There are a few options for that in the 1020. If the track is Dolby Digital, there are audio settings for dynamic range compression. There is also Midnight Mode, which restrict any soundtrack to clamp peaks but also boost bass a bit so that you can hear it even at low listening levels.

Of course a good center speaker, properly setup, oriented and calibrated, will help a lot, but the main reason why dialogues are hard to hear is that it's meant to be played louder.
post #4419 of 4530
Actually it's probably just a bad room setup. There are many threads here on room treatment. Low dialogue is a frequent complaint of all surround sound systems. Having a couch to close to a rear wall is one problem. The automatic setups can only compensate so much for a difficult room. The mcacc on this receiver is pretty old too.

My room is not too bad in my opinion, but due to projector placement the couch is right up against the wall. I should probably treat the wall behind the couch, but have not done so yet. I have to find something that the aesthetics committee likes that doesn't break the bank.
post #4420 of 4530
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Originally Posted by LastButNotLeast View Post

One more time:
post #4362
"Dialog enhancement is described on p. 68 of the user manual, 4th setting down from the top of the page."

Thanks LastutNotLeast, I have seen that in the documentation. The problem is I only have the Flat or Off option, because I dont have front height speakers. Default is OFF and flat makes it worse.
post #4421 of 4530
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Originally Posted by KnawJB View Post

Thanks LastutNotLeast, I have seen that in the documentation. The problem is I only have the Flat or Off option, because I dont have front height speakers. Default is OFF and flat makes it worse.

Try this, then.

Advanced MCACC -> Manual MCACC -> EQ Adjust -> C

If you add a couple of dB to TRIM, it will make everything from the center channel louder, which may be all you need.

Alternatively, you can add a couple of dB only to 1kHz and/or 500Hz. That will boost just the vocal frequencies.

Good luck.

Michael

post #4422 of 4530
Hey everyone, so the other day, I turned on my tv and receiver, and have no sound. None of the inputs will play anything. It is not set to HDMI through, and I have tried replacing the cables, unplugging and refitting all the connections, and still silence. I only use the app to switch inputs and adjust volume, so I dont believe I hit any funny buttons on the remote. Any ideas?
post #4423 of 4530
Did you get it on zone 2 somehow?
post #4424 of 4530
No, it is on zone 1, and I tried switching to 2 and back with no result.
post #4425 of 4530

Time for "Resetting the system," page 75:

 

 

Good luck. Hope it works.

post #4426 of 4530
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Originally Posted by ItzMe View Post

I'm trying to determine if an audio delay issue I have with my DirectTV HR 44/700 is an issue with my HR or my Pioneer 1020k. I get about a 3-4 second audio delay when I have Doubleplay or PIP activated on the HR. it only happens when I switch to a buffered tuner. If both tuners are live, there is no audio delay. Is anyone else experiencing this issue on their 1020 k connected by HDMI to and HR 44 or HR 34?

I thought I'd try re-posting this to see if anyone else might pair their Pioneer with a Directv HR34 or HR44.
post #4427 of 4530
Never had to do a reset before but it looks like this is what its coming down too. Am I right to assume Ill have to redo my maac and rename my inputs once done? Small price to pay at this point, no stereo is killing me.
post #4428 of 4530

Yes, it goes back to factory defaults.

Hopefully. ;)

post #4429 of 4530
So why does it seem like it is almost impossible to get surround using all of my speakers and Chromecast? I have it plugged into the HDMI1 port on the receiver, and when I cast content from network website I don't get surround like I did when having laptop connected to the receiver with an HDMI cable? Am I missing something? I've tried playing with all the settings with the remote.
post #4430 of 4530
I think I have mine set to dolby surround music or something like that. I think it remembers the setting on the input, so you would have to set it to something more appropriate if you used Netflix or some other 5.1 source.
post #4431 of 4530
Due to running out of output terminals, I had to hook up my wireless headphones to the Speaker B terminal. I use the headphones so I can hear a louder volume, and the rest of the family can hear normal volume when watching TV.
I also use Zone 2 for a multi-room setup, but this is not needed when watching TV. I need to switch to Speaker B when I start watching TV and back to Zone 2 when I am done.

For a while now I have been using the on screen menu to switch between Zone 2 and Speaker B (Home Menu > System Setup > Manual Speaker Setup > Speaker System).
This works but is relatively long and clunky method, especially when I have to switch inputs on the TV to do it.

Does anyone know of a faster/easier way to switch between Zone 2 and Speaker B on this receiver? It would be nice if it could be done on the front of the receiver.
Thanks.
post #4432 of 4530
How about a splitter rca cable to feed the wireless headphones? Use 1 male into the receiver to create 2 female out.

On a related note, my Dad's hearing aid has a device that we plug into the stb to give him an amplified sound in his head. You can run that to a switcher box to get different inputs since digital output like bd won't come out of the receiver.
post #4433 of 4530
The splitter might be my best solution. I would need a 1/8" jack transition also. Currently I cut a 1/8" extension and twisted the shielding for the second connection to Speaker B.

Have not got the hearing aids yet. My doc says that if I am not positive I will always wear em, don't bother!

Thanks for your thoughts!
post #4434 of 4530
I just moved and had to set up my 1020-K again. I'm running a 3.1 setup currently and my question was in regards to the speaker configuration displayed on the front LCD on the left side. For some reason it's showing 7.1 speaker configuration even though it's only configured for 3.1. Is this something I can change or is it always going to show a 7.1 configuration? I'm just wondering if that's an indication that I have something setup incorrectly. I ran the auto-MCACC and it's still displaying the same.

The other thing I've never really been able to figure out is what surround mode I should be using for every-day movies & gaming. Maybe I'm too dumb to have a nice receiver but I'd love some kind of cheat-sheet that explains why I would want to use one surround-sound setting vs. another. I've read pages 57-58 in the manual but it still doesn't make a ton of sense. I have my PS3 input set to advanced game mode but I have no idea if that's ideal or not. For my record player I have it set to Stereo or Ext. Stereo typically. but beyond that I'm really not sure what would be ideal for movie watching using 3.1 speaker configuration.

Any advice would be much appreciated.
post #4435 of 4530
I have read a lot of posts about the dial norm -3 blinking problem but I can't find my answer.

I did not get it for a long period of time and today it's a nightmare! I have a Cisco Explorer 8642HD connected to my 1020K.

Is that a HDMI cable problem? AVR trouble? I get it randomly.

Please help!

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post #4436 of 4530

I have had a pioneer vsx 1020 receiver for a couple years now but have had old speakers hooked up. I am looking at buying a new set of speakers and was specifically looking at JBL studio 180 6.5" 3-Way floorstanding speakers because they are on sale for $99 each.  The spec's for the speakers say they have nominal impedance of 8 ohms and a power rating of 200 watts.  Can anyone verify that the receiver is powerful enough for hooking up two of these speakers?  Also any good suggestions on a center speaker and sub?  Thanks for any help

post #4437 of 4530
See my comments above. Use a third JBL for your center channel. Hell for that price, use them for all seven channels. If the Pioneer doesn't give you the sound you're looking for, get an Emotiva XPA-3 for Left Right Center & that will leave you plenty of juice for your surrounds. ;>}
post #4438 of 4530
You'll have plenty of power for the JBL's with the 1020. I agree with the above: at that price, if you have the space, just buy more of the same for all positions. However having a tower for center implies the TV is mounted fairly high. I'd use any JBL speaker with the same woofers and tweeters if possible.

As for the sub, it's a very open-ended question that is best asked in the sub forums, after having read the stickies. It will depend on your room volume and budget for the most part.
post #4439 of 4530

Is anyone using this AVR to drive HTD Level 3 towers? I haven't read the entire thread, but a keyword search yielded no result. I think I read elsewhere about a guy who was having trouble with those speakers and another pioneer AVR, but I don't remember which one.

post #4440 of 4530

I found the post I referenced in my previous post. It was horseflesh having an issue with his speakers and Pioneer 1522k.

 

http://www.avsforum.com/t/788311/home-theater-direct-htd-owners-thread/240

 

I've been doing a lot of scrolling through this forum and the HTD speakers seem almost ideal for my application, so I'm hoping I can drive them with the 1020k. I'll probably call HTD tomorrow and see if they have any insight on this. Let me know if anyone else is interested in this issue and I'll report back.

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