The Official AVS 3D Console Games Topic! - Page 31

For reference, this is blops 1, and looks great.

Wow, that's some pretty significant vertical misalignment. Hope it can be patched.

Crazy mess with those iron sights. How could a game possibly go out like that? I wonder if it's somehow your TV, or maybe just a bad disc?? It just doesn't make sense.

As for 3D iron sights in general, while a good 3D effect, it makes the game less realistic imo. Plus is makes aiming difficult. If I were to aim a rifle in real like I would close one eye, thus eliminating 3D in real life. I think it would make much more sense that once the aim button is pressed that the 3D effect should disappear in the game.

Its not just the iron sights...the whole game (other than the HUD) is like that. Its just easy to demonstrate with the sights. Thats why playing was causing such massive eyestrain - cause it was literally forcing me to twist my eyes to converge on it. Thats why my brain was rejecting the player names - the text is proper, but the game world is screwed, and you cant reconcile them. Its literally painful. I dont understand how it went out like this either...it must have been a late bug and no one QCed the 3D mode. There's no way this is by design, its just plain wrong.

I wonder if the PS3 version of BLOPSII has the same problem; Take away the 3D and Call of Duty suddenly becomes far less attractive to me (the original BLOPS is the only CoD game I still own). I'm now leaning towards holding off on buying the game until I have some more solid info on whether the developers are aware of the problem and what, if anything, they doing to address it.

Yeah, dunno about PS3. I really want to play this in 3D too.

How in the hell do you misalign the images? That's just... I don't even have the words. I've done 3D in CGI, and it's actually impossible for me to misalign the cameras, the computer does it automatically.

I actually didn't know about reprojection until reading this thread.. my only real exposure to 3D gaming is on PC, where it's always native. I didn't realize that anyone would even have bothered trying to come up with a "conversion" method for real-time content.. That's actually pretty damn sad, IMO. As far as I'm concerned, if you can't do it right, don't do it at all.

Got Black Ops 2 for 360 today. Happen to like the 3d effect no eyestrain. Playin on an LG55 passive. I am no expert in 3d though.

I tried the 360 version of this demo a little while ago and got the same results. Even with the 3D slider maxxed the sense of depth was all but non-existent and even the illusion of the edge of the screen receding into the TV that you get with most 3D content (and even 2D>3D) wasn't there. After playing the demo for a few minutes, I actually backed out to the main menu to double check that I'd turned on the 3D mode correctly (I had). I'm pretty sure this was reprojection and given the poor results, the developers shouldn't have even bothered. Very disappointing.

I didn't have any issues with 3d on my ps3 & 73" mits dlp tv. In fact I think it's one of the best looking 3d games I have played so far.

The ps3 is unaffected. I was emailed back and forth with the eurogamer guys, they see the bug too on the 360, but not ps3. So pretty sure it'll get addressed before too long.

How's the quality and resolution hit with the 3d enabled versus 2d?

It's not bad at all. MP seems to do a little better than SP. SP hovers around 30 most of the time, MP does quite a bit better until there's a lot going on onscreen. No resolution or quality drop that I can tell, although its not running in HD to begin with. At least it doesn't get super blurry like blops 1.

Once they fix the bug it'll probably be the best example of a 3D FPS on consoles. But I'm serious...don't even try to power through it until they do. Not worth the headache and eyestrain.

I thought the 3D was fine on my 92" Mitsubishi DLP using the Xbox360 version. The problem now is after playing the first chapter in 3D i can't get a 3D option in the options menu only anallygryph (red & blue glasses.

ROFL.... Is that a subtle way of saying red/blue looks like ass?

(it's "anaglyph", by the way, but I thought you version was hilarious. )

I decided to pick up Black Ops 2 for the 360 today as I had $15 in credit and was hopeful that a patch to address the 3D issues would be released (I thought about getting the PS3 version but just didn't dig the thought of playing all the way thru the campaign using a Dual Shock pad).

Upon booting the game there was a mandatory 26mb update (these updates keep getting larger and larger) and after installing it I played thru to the end of the first level. To my eyes the 3D in the game looked fine on my LG LM7600 passive as I got a very good sense of depth and no double images (crawling thru the high grass was particularly well done as it seemed to be right in front of my eyes). I did experience a minor but noticeable amount of eyestrain which I do not recall experiencing with the original BLOPS but beyond that everything looked good and the resolution of the graphics while in 3D seemed comparable to the original BLOPS.

To the best of my limited knowledge, minor vertical misalignment doesn't look odd with 3D glasses on, but it causes a sense of "unexplainable" eyestrain. It should be obvious with the glasses off though.

There are some anaglyph examples of vertical misalignment in this BD review for Creature from the Black Lagoon.

http://www.3dfilmarchive.com/an-in-depth-look-at-creature-from-the-black-lagoon-1

Its the part where the image is misaligned, but the HUD/Text isn't, that really screws me up.

Just downloaded the first title update...3D still broken.

Is it broke on the 360 or PS3 (or both?)

Just 360.

I was listenting to a "weekend confirmed" podcast and Jeff Cannata was on there raving about how good Blops 2 was in 3D, and I think he was using the 360 version. Just goes to show you that one persons horrible version of 3D, is amazing to somebody else...

Looks fantastic on my Panasonic Plasma / PS3. I only play the campaign (with crosshair off) in 3D. Maybe its all in my mind but I'm not good in 3D multiplayer. Every time I try it I end up going like 5-14. Lol

True. I mean, you occasionally have people raving over how great the 3D is in some games that use reprojection. I guess people are going to be sensitive to it to various degrees. My eyes cant stand it.

Either way, its still broken, unless youre some sort of ogre that has one eye an inch above the other.

How does the 3D compare to Black Ops I on the PS3?

While I do get some minor eye-strain with my 360 version in 3D, visually it is still leaps and bounds better than the assortment of reprojection 3D games from Ubisoft and other publishers that offer minimal depth and absolutely no pop at all (Assassin's Creed, Arkham City, Ghost Recon, Epic Mickey, etc.).

Since I didn't find any posts about the BLOPS 2 3D issue on the official forums, I started a thread. Thanks BD2003 for the photos.

Everyone should make an account and add your voice to the issue: http://community.callofduty.com/message/413614419


Also you can send a report straight to the developer in Call of Duty Elite: https://support.activision.com/Contact_Us
Edited by obveron - 11/24/12 at 5:27pm

I don't play consoles in 3d because they take such a graphic hit to do it with, but i reported it anyways. More the merrier

Not sure, I didn't have a 3D display back in the day. I'll dust off that title and give it a spin

Correct me if I'm wrong, but reprojection is specific to consoles, right? Games using NVidia 3D Vision on PC should always be "native"? I ask because of games like Crysis 2, where Crytek said they came up with a "new method" of playing the game in 3D without the performance hit that it usually takes (and they're right.. it doesn't cut the framerate in half with that game like it does with all the others). The depth in that game is less, as well, I can't crank it up to nearly the levels I can on other games. You think maybe they're "cheating it" via reprojection, even on PC?