Official Sharp Aquos/Quattron LC-XXLE810UN/LC-XXLE820UN Owners Thread - Page 51

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1206484
Or send a private message to user sspears to help you out.

You don't have a PS3, just the Xbox360 - so you'd need a DVD version of the calibration disc with the clipping calibration part in it.

Blu-ray players: you could get a decent one, but the PS3 - even if you don't like it - is still spectacularly decent as a Blu-ray only player (and much faster than anything but a £600 Blu-ray player you could hope to afford).

I was a complete amateur about 2-3 weeks ago. You can either go the route of following specific THX trends in calibration or you can focus on what makes your 810 good to you.
Clipping calibration and the Spears & Munsil disc did that for me. And it was not hard; just tricky. You're relying on your eyes and your perceived notion of 'better'.

I think I have discovered either the exact problem of the CMS being reset - but no que is given to the fact - or it is indeed just using the CMS too many times.
But here is the other explanation for it.

The USB input.

When you insert a USB stick into the 821, it locks out the CMS (or it uses CMS defaults). I always though that a bit odd anyway.
But now I think it is resetting the CMS when the USB stick is removed, but the values (the calibration aspect of it) remain intact so you think nothing has happened.

You may notice the error, but you might not. Not unless you have a calibration disc to verify it - because I did just that and the calibration I made was gone; the values remained.

But I think it's way too coincidental that the USB input - when it's active - is linking to the CMS to lock it off.

I've reported this finding to Sharp (UK).
Once again, this might specifically be related to the 821, not the 810 or the 820.

If you're right that's one excellent catch. Good job and even better job reporting it

UK with the 821 (820 in the US).

Is there a topic on this forum for the Sharp LE925 (3D) range?

I'm still convinced the above settings work on the 810. I've followed the tweaks and my 810 has never looked better.

On an aside, can anyone recommend a good center speaker/Kinect bracket for the top of this tv?

Is it as good as 820/821 owners are seeing it though; in which case, you're missing out


**update to 810/820/821 CMS**
Make the following updated change to PC mode:

Calibration is now redundant.
See P53 for the newest calibration.

Well we know that the LE925 has a much better delta E 94 with RGB-CMY by about 50% compared to LE820/821's delta E 94 for RGB-CMY (and that was on Movie mode, not PC mode).

So, if I applied a calibration through CMS to the E925 as I have done with the E820/821, and it had a similar effect though CMS - we're probably talking mind-blowing colour performance on the E925.

I am very very curious if the E925 exhibits a clipping performance of the full 6 layer band for Blue, as seen with Green and Red on the 821 (which elicits just 3 Blue layers).

Man, oplompolom, you're awesome. i check back here regularly to see if you've made more additions. I'll be using your settings whenever get a blu ray

There is, right here:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1282773

Thanks!

When I made the CMS-hue for Blue to -5, I didn't think to wonder if Blue might be improved further in CMS-saturation or CMS-value.

Nothing beneficial occured in saturation.
Then I tried value.
+2, +3, +4, +5, +6
All did nothing but make it worse.
Then +7 came along.

Blue's clipping channel just snapped. Each of the 3 layers in it are clearly visible. Separated. It's like Green with all 5 layers. Red has 5 layers, but they're vague - they're not cleanly separated.

And what exactly is the difference?
Well on my Anthem BLX-200 Blu-ray player, it has this background; it's primarily shades of Blue displaying this film reel in a sort of pseudo negative emboss - only this time the detail of the film reel's fine edged outlines had White in it. Before, it had no White in it.
It looks better separated; it looks just cleaner. A Creamier blue.

I still can't remove the subtle red tint in Blue in CMS-hue Blue. It's just too sensitive to adjustment. -5 is beneficial however. Don't change that.

You might be right, but I've read two posts now where there seems to be a fairly noticeable yellow-green tint.

It should be green (but a completely controlled green) tint. No Yellow.

I have very nearly absolved yellow from the Quattron's strong yellow injection to just about every film that harbours (post-processed deliberately in film editing) yellow in it.

When I first watched Open Season with default settings, I almost threw-up. The yellow was so prominent.
Now it's sublime.

I don't know - I don't have any friends with the 820. However, your settings make my 810 look fantastic. No yellow problems at all for me. All of my cable HD content looks great, SD looks great, too, and my BDs look awesome.

After one month I have noticed that by default I have eco mode turned on, but its not the one on the remote, its another one.
Setup/ECO/eco picture control
I turned it off and picture improvement is so great that its speechless, suddenly all black rgb test gradients pop up, in games I can see shades of blacks that was never visable in dark scenes, colors became really great

I'm in the market for a new TV (my beloved sony rear projection LCD is now 8 years old =(.

I was at bb, and the 52 quatron really caught my eye, but I have one concern. The living room is very bright, I have a sliding glass door serveral feet fromt he wall that the tv would be mounted on. I noticed the very reflective glass, has there been a big issue with glare and reflections for the people that own one of these units


Thanks for the assist.

After 3 weeks I have decided to exchange my 60" 810 I was watching the walking dead last night. It has a lot of dim scenes as you would expect a zombie movie to have. I have noticed pretty severe clouding when there is no content but the brightly illuminated scenes where fine. In the dimmer scenes the clouding was so extremely apparant that it spoiled it for me. I am within the 30 day window for the no questions asked exchange with BB so I will try a new TV.

it is unfortunately an issue with the 810. we didn't have a lot if feed back from the 920un/925un but early report are saying the screen uniformity is a lot better on those.

Hey guys I've taken Andrews and Omps settings and tweaked both a bit. If you have the time, try them out and see if you like them better than what you are using now. For the Movie mode, blues are a little bit aqua greenish but I think I like the overall picture quality better (if you know how to make blues bluer when color temp is Low and less green, let me know please by pm). Omps PC mode does have slightly better blues but at times it looks a little dull. Anyways, tweak them maybe and see if you can improve.

Settings for PC mode:
Produces a very similar picture to my Movie mode but is a bit dimmer, less yellow/colorful, slightly better blues

OPC: Off
Backlight: +9
Contrast: +38
Bright: 0
Color: +4
Tint: 0
Sharpness: +2
CMS Hue
Blue: -5
CMS Saturation
R: -8
G: +5
B: -9
CMS Value
R: -11
G: -13
C: +20
B: +7
Color Temp: Low
Leave all the gains alone
120hz: low
Gamma: +1
Film Mode: Advanced High
DNR: Off

Movie Mode:
OPC: Off
Backlight: +3
Contrast: +39
Brightness: 0
Color: +4
Tint: +6
Sharpness: +2
CMS Hue
R: 0
Y: 0
G: -22
C: +2
B: 0
M: +1
CMS Saturation
R: 0
Y: -7 ?
G: +12
C: -4
B: 0
M: -18
CMS Value
R: -3
Y: +30
G: +30
C: +30
B: -11
M: +19
Color Temp: Low
R Gain (Lo) +12
G Gain (Lo) +6
B Gain (Lo) +11
R Gain (Hi) +13
G Gain (Hi) +6
B Gain (Hi) +7
Active Contrast: Off
Gamma: +1/0 ?
DNR: Off
120hz: Low
Film Mode: Advanced High

^ a small edit for my previous post, I found that lowering CMS Saturation Yellow to -7 is better for movie mode, also gamma can be at 0 for a more natural look

hey guys is there a way to move the "position" of your screen vertically or horizontally with the 810 model? I just received my replacement and this unit has the exact same problem as my first set, the black edges aka picture does not complete throughout the entire tv.. I am very upset about this.

just called sharp to let them know I am having the exact same problem with my replacement and the guy said they will have to review the case further because this is now the 2nd set (hinting that it is my fault somehow).. he then mentioned the "environment" and power and I told him I have an absolutely clean setup and the problem is there from both the power surge and wall outlet as well as on all components/sources. This is the second defective 810.. I am not sure what to do next, if I request an 820 are the chances of having the same damn problem high?

bumping to find out if any of you guys have this problem on your 810/820s, perhaps I should demand sharp sends me a 46 inch to replace this 40..? maybe they had a bad batch and many of the 40 inch are effected by this?

Do you have your Quattron set to "dot by dot"? If you do, this isnt the TVs fault, not every cable network puts out actual 720p/1080i resolution. Therefore it doesnt fill the entire screen and leaves slight black or white or whatever color lines around some of the edges. If the tv does this on blu ray, then there is prob something wrong with the tv.

the issue is there in all view modes, dot by dot, stretch, s stretch etc.. all modes, it is indeed a problem with the tv. They had me run this check as well, and you are right to mention it.. but yea it's definitely the set :/ again

and yea the problem is there for all components and inputs, hdmi, component etc.. always there

The surge protector will not remove a continuing moderate low or high voltage, merely block a sudden serious spike. Have you put a power meter on the line? I bought one for $10 recently. They are widely available.

Has anyone been able to get the Internet working on their TV other than the preset gadgets?

Help is desperately needed! I am a total NEWB when it comes to an LED TV - and cannot seem to figure out what needs to be turned up or down, off or on. ANYBODY that may be able to offer me some help would be GREATLY appreciated.

We have a 60inch 810 that seems to have a mind of its own.
I have an over-saturation of Blues, in my color spectrum, that I cannot seem to quell. While watching Iron Man - his suit is Maroon. BUT,,, not only is the blue too deep, I'm also getting, a "Shadowy purple/blue" thing happening in dark outfits, and certain objects and scenes. It's the only way that I can describe it.

The next problem is a "faded out haze". The colors are popping on some channels, but there is a faded out haze on lighter screens and scenes. I cannot even begin to tell you what a Hockey Game looks like. The Progressive insurance commercials, is just a HUGE Blue and white Blob - it's startling to a point of irritation. The girl Flo's hair is fades out where it should be "Red",,,all I get is Blue and White, with deep maroon lipstick on Flo.
Is there a AV setting that I can put the TV on, and set the calibrations to certain numbers and settings to fix these problems? It seems that the ONLY mode that I can watch the TV on is Dynamic to get the colors somewhat NEAR what they should look like. I've had the TV for three weeks, and just cannot get it right. I don't own a proper calibration disc, but I did get a THX DVD and try to adjust things via that set up. It helped a little, but the Blue is killing me.
We are also having a problem with the sound cutting in and out. It happens with a DVD or Cable show, but we are in the process of trying to figure out if it is our Bose Cinemate system or the TV.
I am so afraid that we have been blessed with a lemon TV, and don't have a box to return it, because we didn't have a place to store the box, and thought that the TV was okay for a while,,,,not so sure now though. I'm also concerned because when I called up Sharp to get help with the colors, I told them about how much difficulty we had removing the base,,,and the gentleman said that it was weird that the base was attached, as they are usually shipped with the base un-attached. But, all the shrink wrap was on the TV still. So needless to say, my head is really in a tailspin in regards to the status of my really expensive box, that is hanging on my wall!
Anybody out there that can offer some insight? Oh,,,also while I swear that I can see clouding on the screen when it's black, my husband says that, it can only be seen when it's at an angle and not head onto the set.

Thanks again, and I'm sorry for sounding ignorant in regards to the problems, it's just that I'm usually used to plugging in the TV, and turning it on and having it LOOK the way that it's supposed to look. If it helps to know, the TV is plugged into the internet, and has a computer hooked up into it, so I believe that all updates have been installed and programmed.

Anybody?? Bueller? Bueller? ( yes my small attempt at a joke in my panicked state of mind)
Thanks!
JG

Hi, I just saw this reply,,,,AFTER I just reposted a HUGE plea for help yet again. My setting must not be turned on for reply notification via email (I'll check the settings), but in the meantime, I'll try the setting that you posted. EXCEPT - i don't get what you mean by movie X 3? How do I get into a movie/3 mode?
THANK YOU!

go up to post #1519 on this page, I put the latest settings for movie mode that I used.

will try it tomorrow, when I have my brain function back,,,,migraine comin' on like a freight train,,,,

JG