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post #31 of 2818
I Tried the Planet Earth "Fresh Water" Episode to no Avail, I don't think I can be of any help to you guys because my bedroom setup is very unique, I have a Motorola DCH-3200 HD Cable box connected to Input 4(HDMI) and my PC is connected to Input 5(HDMI), I don't have any stand alone BluRay player so I can't replicate your event All my BluRay Rips as well as everything else plays flawlessly from my PC(so far) and I have over 6 TB of rips, of course I spend most of my time watching old programs from yesteryear like The Honeymooner, Speed Racer, Johnny Quest, Sanford & Son, Barney Miller, & Seinfeld, so there not much of a challenge to my T.V. I seriously Could have kept my old 42D64U and with the exception of the Massive Bird scene from "Pole to Pole" episode 1 of Planet Earth, everything worked just fine, but the Colors are so damn rich and vibrant there's no way I'm going back to that set not only are the Gold & Yellows dynamic, but the different shades of Green(especially evident in all the forest scenes in Planet Earth) are really off the chart, I don't doubt for a min what y'all are witnessing I just cant replicate it.
post #32 of 2818
Thread Starter 
jjahshik32, I saw that as well, they also raised the price of the 700UNs (at least the 40in model to be the same price as the 40in 810)

Either way I still saved money even with these new price points

@KakimotoRift
Please edit your post, there is a reason I left them as links, so the forum wouldnt cluttered up with the pictures and people with slower connections could load them in a different window

The links are there, it was made that way on purpose, please edit your post
post #33 of 2818
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Originally Posted by movieguy163201 View Post

jjahshik32, I saw that as well, they also raised the price of the 700UNs (at least the 40in model to be the same price as the 40in 810)

Either way I still saved money even with these new price points

@KakimotoRift
Please edit your post, there is a reason I left them as links, so the forum wouldnt cluttered up with the pictures and people with slower connections could load them in a different window

The links are there, it was made that way on purpose, please edit your post

Now I'm more than ever tempted to pick one of these up later today (since its already 4am here lol).

I know its $200 cheaper ordering from Amazon but after next day shipping (I'm impatient), it'll be $150 difference. I think picking it up is worth the extra $150 as if there is a problem (such as dead/stuck pixels or any other major issues) I dont have to RMA and ship the unit back and can get it swapped out the same day. Kind of like a peace of mind for me.

I watched a couple of movies tonight on my Bravia, it still does the job so well (calibrated it to exactly what I like) but the only reason I want the Sharp Aquos is of course the extra yellow pixel (that great pop you get) + bigger screen size.

40" is barely cutting it in this room for me as I used to have a sony bravia xbr4 52" until I decided to sell it + an nec lt240k (which I also sold). 46" would be perfect.
post #34 of 2818
Thread Starter 
Remember as well, that 30 days is also price matched, because within that 30 days if it does down you get money back, if they give you a hassle then you can just return your set and then buy a new one

For some reason I dont think these prices are gonna last, NO WAY that the new models drop and then the old ones go up a couple hundo bucks, doesnt make any sense....besides everywhere else, at least on the 40in 810, the price is higher
post #35 of 2818
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Originally Posted by movieguy163201 View Post

Remember as well, that 30 days is also price matched, because within that 30 days if it does down you get money back, if they give you a hassle then you can just return your set and then buy a new one

For some reason I dont think these prices are gonna last, NO WAY that the new models drop and then the old ones go up a couple hundo bucks, doesnt make any sense....besides everywhere else, at least on the 40in 810, the price is higher

Do you think if I show Best Buy Amazon's price, they will match it??

Or does that only apply if only its a comparison to other retail stores around the local area (if my memory is correct).

At least it couldnt hurt to try.
post #36 of 2818
Thread Starter 
Doesnt hurt to try, get the right person who talks to the right manager and have them thinking youll get a warranty, they might haggle on the price, but typically, they dont honor online retailer prices, only local retail competition
post #37 of 2818
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Originally Posted by movieguy163201 View Post

Doesnt hurt to try, get the right person who talks to the right manager and have them thinking youll get a warranty, they might haggle on the price, but typically, they dont honor online retailer prices, only local retail competition

Where's Circuit City when you need them!! LOL.
post #38 of 2818
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Originally Posted by pjm@ View Post

On my 810, when Motion Enhancement is enabled on Low or High, I have noticed an issue on occasion where the screen will appear to flash very quickly, perhaps 20 times in 200 ms or so, and then will have a longer blink where the image resets (screen goes blank, the TV does not reset), and it continues on like nothing happened.

Is this the 'picture shattering' you're talking about?

The picture just shutters. And it continues for like a minute or so.
It appears as it jumps horizontally/diagonally. I have not noticed the screen going blank.
post #39 of 2818
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Originally Posted by dumon View Post

The picture just shutters. And it continues for like a minute or so.
It appears as it jumps horizontally/diagonally. I have not noticed the screen going blank.

I saw this as well last night watching SNL during the middle of the show. The NBC affiliate here has the most dicey signal here, I wonder if that has anything to do with it?

Has anybody else besides me and my brother had the set completely lock up on them? Sharp told my brother a firmware update was coming but wasn't sure if it addressed it.

Movieguy, I went back to BB last night to get a harmony remote and i asked the guy that told me earlier about the people exchanging the sony for the sharp. He said that they have been having more than normal returns on the Sonys, and that also everyone in his store was really impressed with the Sharps. Plus he said his manager has been selling the 810's for the same price as the comparable screen size ex700 to customers when they have been out of the Sony's

FWIW, my sister is probably going to pick up a 46" today after seeing mine and my brothers
post #40 of 2818
Thread Starter 
I too have noticed some motion problems (stuttering) on poorly formatted commercials, figured it wasnt the TVs fault, more the fault of the commercial makers

I havent had one lock up with the TV, Ive only tried STB, DVD player, BD, PC, and USB tho.

Also, prices seemed to have dropped at BB, dont know if its normal or not, but I think something is up since now the 810s are the same price as the 700s
post #41 of 2818
It is Sharp's marketing finally woke up and heard me.
I've said a couple of days ago that they have to lower
their prices to be able to compete.
post #42 of 2818
Thread Starter 
dumon, the weird thing is, is that they didnt lower the price fully to the 700UNs level, they actually RAISED the prices of the 700UNs while dropping the price of the 810UNs
The price got raised on the 700UNs by around 200 bucks
post #43 of 2818
If you live in an area that has an Ultimate Electronics store, check on line for the price of the LC60le810un. You might be surprised..
post #44 of 2818
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Originally Posted by jjahshik32 View Post

Do you think if I show Best Buy Amazon's price, they will match it??

Or does that only apply if only its a comparison to other retail stores around the local area (if my memory is correct).

At least it couldnt hurt to try.

It would depend on your BB. The one where I live is like someone trying to make up their mind on something but is not sure on how to do it. Sometimes they will price match Amazon, sometimes they won't. Me..I would say I want to buy this TV right here right now, but will you match Amazons price? If they don't ask for a manager, if he doesn't it's a simple thing..just say thank you and say I'll buy from Amazon and walk out. But that's me...

Jeff
post #45 of 2818
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Originally Posted by movieguy163201 View Post

dumon, the weird thing is, is that they didnt lower the price fully to the 700UNs level, they actually RAISED the prices of the 700UNs while dropping the price of the 810UNs
The price got raised on the 700UNs by around 200 bucks

They can do that with older models as there is a very little stock of them.
That is usually what happens with last year models as the number of sellers
goes down the price goes up. It looks like it is official price drop.
Sears did the same overnight.
post #46 of 2818
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Originally Posted by movieguy163201 View Post

However, just a quick couple of questions
What DVD player are you using? Any upscaling? What Resolution? HDMI Im guessing? DVD Firmware upgraded? Is the DVD player known to be good? (obviously if you have an Oppo, I dont need an answer for this)

Edit:
Was watching TNTHD tonight (movie) and experienced lip sync issue,

I'm using the Planet Earth Blu Ray, and this has occurred across two separate Sony BDP-S360's with up to date firmware, and across to versions of Planet Earth (US and UK versions). This is a fairly rare issue...I've never seen in during a baseball game and I've watched more of that than anything else, but I have seen it in the commercials a few times. I'll bypass the Denon later and hook the blu ray directly up to the 810 via HDMI, then replay that section and see what happens.

If you're looking to purchase Planet Earth Blu Ray, you can get it for substantially less at Amazon.co.uk, even after using their currency conversion. It's region free and you should receive it in 10 days or less.

I saw lip sync issues with a movie the other week, but it was clearly the broadcast, as other stations were fine and I haven't seen any lip sync issues playing blu rays. There's so many garbage stations and the image quality in general of Comcast television is crap with all their compression...
post #47 of 2818
A few words on price negotiation. Best Buy can be somewhat hit and miss in this department, but I would straight up ask for a supervisor or manager, as regular employees can't do anything. It also helps if you check a few local competitors, find the lowest price, and use that as leverage. For Best Buy in northern Illinois, I can try and have them price match Tiger Direct, CompUSA, Sears, ABT etc...a lot of good options.

For example, a few months back I called ABT and quoted an Internet price for a 700UN. They didn't match it, but they came within a hundred or so. I took that price to Best Buy (since they are much closer), they came within 1-2 percent of matching the price I gave them from ABT, which was made up for by the difference in tax rates...too bad that store, and every other one in the area, including the warehouse, happened to be out of stock.

So check a few vendors, then go straight to supervisors/managers to negotiate and potentially save hundreds.
post #48 of 2818
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Originally Posted by pjm@ View Post

A few words on price negotiation. Best Buy can be somewhat hit and miss in this department, but I would straight up ask for a supervisor or manager, as regular employees can't do anything. It also helps if you check a few local competitors, find the lowest price, and use that as leverage. For Best Buy in northern Illinois, I can try and have them price match Tiger Direct, CompUSA, Sears, ABT etc...a lot of good options.

For example, a few months back I called ABT and quoted an Internet price for a 700UN. They didn't match it, but they came within a hundred or so. I took that price to Best Buy (since they are much closer), they came within 1-2 percent of matching the price I gave them from ABT, which was made up for by the difference in tax rates...too bad that store, and every other one in the area, including the warehouse, happened to be out of stock.

So check a few vendors, then go straight to supervisors/managers to negotiate and potentially save hundreds.

My local bestbuy would not honor the $1289 price from a local hometheatre store called modia.

I saw the sharp 810 and I really really want it LOL.
I noticed the jitter/jolt you guys were talking about. Strange thing is that the 40" showed no signs of this issue but the 52" did.

Sadly they didn't have the 46" out so I'm not too sure if it has this issue.

This reminds me of their motion enhancer issue. On the Bravia if you go to picture/cinemotion and turn it off, usually lower standard definition wont have the jitter/jolt issue but if you turn cinemotion back on it will develop this issue. Some DVD movies will experience this jitter/jolt when cinemotion is "on".

On some standard definition/DVD, try turning off the motion enhancer on the Sharp or its variation of cinemotion (sorry not too sure what features are on the sharp, I've been a Bravia man for too long) and it should fix the jitter/jolt problems.

I hate weekend shopping and probably will pick up the 46" Sharp tomorrow from my local store modia for $1289 as they have it instock.

But I have to say, the Sharp 810 makes my year old Sony Bravia XBR6 look "dull" and "so OLD"!!

I was amazed how much more detail you can see from the Sharp 810 as to EVERY HDTV that was there (and thats 20+ on display). There was this one demo video that was playing where they showed this girls face with makeup on and the SHARP was showing everything down to the pores along with the blemishes on her face while every other hdtv made her face without the details and her looking younger than she actually was! Thats what hooked me.

I know that if you properly calibrate the other HDTVs that you can get it to show more details BUT thats when I started to remember that the SHARP can be calibrated as well! And the most impressive part of the SHARP is that the skin tone was very realistic. Thats insane.

Anyone wanna buy a 40" Sony bravia xbr6 that's a year old? LOL.
post #49 of 2818
OK. Regarding the picture jumping problem on 810 sets...
It seem that it has nothing and to do with "Fine motion" mode.
I was @ BB this afternoon and turned the 120Hz option off on a 52" set.
It did not help a bit - picture was jumping exactly the same on this set(as well as on 40" and 60" nearby)
post #50 of 2818
I currently have a mount setup for a 40" and I'm curious if I can mount this 46" as it is actually lighter than my bravia.

Do you guys know if the 46" hdtv (back) wont mount correctly to a 40" mount? I cant remember but I think my mount was a 32"-46" could be wrong... hmm..
post #51 of 2818
Glad you guys were talking about the price drop. Just got Sears to do the price match guarantee. It was the last possible day for me...
post #52 of 2818
It looks like PC Richard & Son has a really good deal on the lc-60le810un... but it says it won't ship from the manufacturer until 5/14. Haven't seen it that low anywhere actually, even other online sellers.
post #53 of 2818
I was reading Cnet's first look at the Quatrron's and noticed that they state that Sharp told them the wifi dongle would be included with the tv.

I didn't get one, did anybody else?

http://reviews.cnet.com/2300-6482_7-...tag=mncol;page
post #54 of 2818
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Originally Posted by snoguy View Post

I was reading Cnet's first look at the Quatrron's and noticed that they state that Sharp told them the wifi dongle would be included with the tv.

I didn't get one, did anybody else?

http://reviews.cnet.com/2300-6482_7-...tag=mncol;page

I also did not get one. Odd.
post #55 of 2818
Hmm, I too noticed the stuttering during my visit to BB today. It was on the 40" model. It happened while they showed a particular segment of their video loop; it had not appeared earlier. I didn't check the other model sizes to see if they were having the same problem, but I know the 46" looked fine, earlier, too.

Hopefully it's a firmware thing and can be solved with a simple update. It's odd... you'd think something like that would have been noticed in pre-production.
post #56 of 2818
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Originally Posted by dumon View Post

The picture just shutters. And it continues for like a minute or so.
It appears as it jumps horizontally/diagonally. I have not noticed the screen going blank.

Hmm. That's odd, and not the same thing I'm seeing, as it only lasts about 2 seconds. I haven't seen anything like what you mention.

I haven't see any motion issues during: Baseball games, Lord of the Rings Fellowhip (DVD), V for Vendetta (Blu Ray)...haven't watched much else yet.

Only areas I have noticed my brief motion issues are: that Piranha scene, a few instances in 2001, and a few standard def commercials during otherwise hi-def content.

It does strike me as the type of things thing that should be fixed by a firmware update. Any idea what input they are using in the stores when you see the motion jumping?
post #57 of 2818
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Originally Posted by snoguy View Post

I was reading Cnet's first look at the Quatrron's and noticed that they state that Sharp told them the wifi dongle would be included with the tv.

I didn't get one, did anybody else?

I did not, and I have never seen this mentioned. Either CNet is incorrect, perhaps it's for the 820 or 920, or maybe they will be adding it. If they do add it later, perhaps they will offer it at no charge to existing owners.
post #58 of 2818
I am looking to buy this LCD tv (52 in.) but I need it to take PAL input without using any converter.. so ,I need a small favor .. whoever has this TV and has any camera/camcorder/iphone/ipod.. which can do PAL (color system) .. Can you guys test and let me know if PAL input works on this TV...

Thanks...
post #59 of 2818
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Originally Posted by pjm@ View Post

Hmm. That's odd, and not the same thing I'm seeing, as it only lasts about 2 seconds. I haven't seen anything like what you mention....
Any idea what input they are using in the stores when you see the motion jumping?

All BB TVs are now connected via coax cable. So I may suspect that there is an issue with their ATSC/QAM tuner.
Do you use RF input on you set at all?
post #60 of 2818
To the new SHARP owners...

Congratulations on your TVs and being one of the first people to get the new models. That's always exciting!

Have you done much gaming? Can you make any comment regarding input lag? Are you using 'Game' mode?
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