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post #571 of 805
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Originally Posted by brandop View Post

I actually had a service center about 2 miles from my house, so I didn't have to ship it. It was a one day turnaround for me, but ymmv since it is being shipped. I wouldn't think it would be more than 2 weeks at the latest.
I finally got it back, shouldn't even be complaining right?tongue.gif

It's all up and working good now they fixed the HDMI PCB and Caps. I'm glad I didn't try the DIY with just replacing the capacitors because the other thing is probably much harder right?

I'm hoping I can get at least another two years or so out of it with whatever was done
post #572 of 805
Okay, I think my Onkyo TX-SR606 is showing it's death throws. About 12 or 13 months ago, I noticed that if I switched over to my PS3 I would get video/audio for a brief couple of seconds, then the screen would tear, go snowy, then I'd get the "No Signal" notice on my TV. I thought it was my PS3 bonking out on me, so I exchanged my old, non-BC phat model for a slim. Still the same issue. I switched HDMI input from HDMI4 to HDMI3 and it all worked great.

Fast forward to earlier this year and I noticed that my Cable TV would occasionally lose signal, give me a green screen for a second, then go right back to how it was before. I figured this may have been because of my cable box as it was giving me problems already and was due for replacement. Got a replacement box from the cable company and the same things were happening with this one. I then switched the cable from HDMI2 to HDMI1 on the Onkyo and everything was fine. The PS3, however, when watching blu-rays would start to show similar artifacts at random spots (just little bits of snow for a few frames at random spots on the screen), and is now having the audio and video freeze up with some screen tears (where the top 1/4 of the screen just turns to snow on a frozen picture), turn black, then go back to normal. The movie would return to play as if nothing happened. E.G. the playback never stopped, but the audio/video would freeze. It happens randomly, and if I were to go and scan back a bit and replay the same spot it would play just fine. So I can rule out a disc or PS3 issue as the playback happened just as normal.

I have recently become unemployed and am no longer receiving a paycheck now that my 60 day "separation" period has ended. It will be a good three weeks before I get my severance package from my former employer. So I am in a "can't spend anymore money" type of spot. I was wondering if the issue I'm seeing could potentially be fixed by the capacitor replacement? I haven't done much soldering aside from building some joysticks for my PS3 using arcade machine parts, and the soldering of the crossovers in my speakers that I built. This, however, was all done about three or four years ago so it's been a while. I have been practicing on an old PCB from a dead videogame controller to just try and get my skills back. I would like to give this a try if it would work as a ten dollar investment for a potential fix would be much better than having to buy a new receiver.

If I have to, however, I will end up getting a new receiver and I've posted information about that in a separate thread. I just want to see ahead of time if the repair attempt would be of any value.

Thanks.
post #573 of 805
In a moment of desperation, I just send Onkyo a message about my SR805 which started having HDMI problems recently. I'm hoping for a 1-time fix from them. In my favor, I did purchase the SR805 directly from Shoponkyo.com and also purchased a 2-year extended warranty (which was never used) from them at the time. Of course, that warranty expired a little more than a year ago. Crossing fingers. I love my 805 and don't want to replace it. BTW, I did replace all the 100uf caps to no avail.
post #574 of 805
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Originally Posted by jbdawson View Post

I finally got it back, shouldn't even be complaining right?tongue.gif
It's all up and working good now they fixed the HDMI PCB and Caps. I'm glad I didn't try the DIY with just replacing the capacitors because the other thing is probably much harder right?
I'm hoping I can get at least another two years or so out of it with whatever was done

Hi jbdawson. So glad to hear you are up and running again. For all of the other owners out here with one of these receivers I was just wondering if you share what the repair of the HDMI board cost you? I am sure many of us are going to have to do the same thing and it would be nice to know what it cost. Thank you for sharing that info.
post #575 of 805
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Originally Posted by golffnutt View Post

Hi jbdawson. So glad to hear you are up and running again. For all of the other owners out here with one of these receivers I was just wondering if you share what the repair of the HDMI board cost you? I am sure many of us are going to have to do the same thing and it would be nice to know what it cost. Thank you for sharing that info.

I bought the capacitors from Radio Shack for less than $3.00 dollars, and I spend approximately 15 min. to do the job. Pretty inexpensive! biggrin.gif
post #576 of 805
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Originally Posted by GusGus748s View Post

I bought the capacitors from Radio Shack for less than $3.00 dollars, and I spend approximately 15 min. to do the job. Pretty inexpensive! biggrin.gif

Thanks GusGus748s" for the info. I know the cost DIY, but since I can't solder I was wanting the cost of what it would be if I had to send it to Onkyo. Unfortunately I have no experience soldering and after reading thru many pages on this thread it would seem that the soldering process is very delicate and precise so I would not want to attemt it having never soldered anything in my life. Thanks again though for your reply.
post #577 of 805
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Originally Posted by golffnutt View Post

Thanks GusGus748s" for the info. I know the cost DIY, but since I can't solder I was wanting the cost of what it would be if I had to send it to Onkyo. Unfortunately I have no experience soldering and after reading thru many pages on this thread it would seem that the soldering process is very delicate and precise so I would not want to attemt it having never soldered anything in my life. Thanks again though for your reply.

I don't know how to solder either. I looked at a couple of youtube videos on how to solder and that's all I did. My dad has a soldering gun, and that's what I used. I kind of burned one of the capacitors, but it didn't damage the board. I didn't think it was going to work, but I hooked it up and everything worked biggrin.gif
post #578 of 805
Am I understanding correctly. Who is paying for the unit to get serviced? This is what I received from Onkyo.

"Your product will require out-of-warranty service to repair the issue you have currently experiencing. Here is the information on how to obtain service for your product and the nearest service center locations to drop off/send your product for warranty service.

To obtain out-of-warranty service, take or ship your Onkyo product to an Onkyo Authorized Service Center, together with a note describing your complaint and your copy of the dated purchase receipt. Please also include the attached and completed Customer Warranty Service Documentation form attached to this email. Please input your name, address, telephone number, and serial number of the unit. You need to provide, at your expense, shipment of your Onkyo product to an authorized Service Center. Onkyo will pay all return shipping charges for Onkyo products that have been serviced under this warranty."
post #579 of 805
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Originally Posted by Samaritano View Post

Am I understanding correctly. Who is paying for the unit to get serviced? This is what I received from Onkyo.
"Your product will require out-of-warranty service to repair the issue you have currently experiencing. Here is the information on how to obtain service for your product and the nearest service center locations to drop off/send your product for warranty service.

To obtain out-of-warranty service, take or ship your Onkyo product to an Onkyo Authorized Service Center, together with a note describing your complaint and your copy of the dated purchase receipt. Please also include the attached and completed Customer Warranty Service Documentation form attached to this email. Please input your name, address, telephone number, and serial number of the unit. You need to provide, at your expense, shipment of your Onkyo product to an authorized Service Center. Onkyo will pay all return shipping charges for Onkyo products that have been serviced under this warranty."


I see your confusion. It is not written very clearly. The first part makes it seem like you are paying for the repair, but the second part sounds like you only pay for shipping cost. I'd reply and ask for clarification.
post #580 of 805
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Originally Posted by golffnutt View Post

Hi jbdawson. So glad to hear you are up and running again. For all of the other owners out here with one of these receivers I was just wondering if you share what the repair of the HDMI board cost you? I am sure many of us are going to have to do the same thing and it would be nice to know what it cost. Thank you for sharing that info.
I don't know how much it cost as onkyo covered it, all I got a was a receipt on the repairs did with zero balance. I was curious as well on how much the HDMI board was....and what I was going to be looking at had I paid myself to fix it. I didn't ask any questions though paid to ship it out got it back all good and running and went about my business. smile.gif
post #581 of 805
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Originally Posted by jbdawson View Post

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I don't know how much it cost as onkyo covered it, all I got a was a receipt on the repairs did with zero balance. I was curious as well on how much the HDMI board was....and what I was going to be looking at had I paid myself to fix it. I didn't ask any questions though paid to ship it out got it back all good and running and went about my business. smile.gif

Thanks jbdawson for the reply. My bad, I did not realize it was covered under warranty, thanks for letting me know that and have a great day and enjoy your "new" receiver.
post #582 of 805
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Originally Posted by jbdawson View Post

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I don't know how much it cost as onkyo covered it, all I got a was a receipt on the repairs did with zero balance. I was curious as well on how much the HDMI board was....and what I was going to be looking at had I paid myself to fix it. I didn't ask any questions though paid to ship it out got it back all good and running and went about my business. smile.gif

I don't know what the cost of the HDMI board is since I was never able to find one to purchase. Had you done the capacitor replacement yourself, it would be fairly cheap as you can get them online, or as someone stated above, at Radio Shack for less than $20. The issue many have is that they don't have much soldering experience, and since these are surface mounted, removing the old capacitors can be tricky. Luckily, ONKYO gave me the one time out of warranty accomodation as they did jbdawson and a couple of other users here.
post #583 of 805
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Originally Posted by billbillw View Post

In a moment of desperation, I just send Onkyo a message about my SR805 which started having HDMI problems recently. I'm hoping for a 1-time fix from them. In my favor, I did purchase the SR805 directly from Shoponkyo.com and also purchased a 2-year extended warranty (which was never used) from them at the time. Of course, that warranty expired a little more than a year ago. Crossing fingers. I love my 805 and don't want to replace it. BTW, I did replace all the 100uf caps to no avail.
Unfortunately, this is the response I received from Onkyo:
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Hi Bill,

If your HDMI ports are starting to go, there is no simple fix that'll resolve the issue. The HDMI boards may very well have to be replaced. I am unsure of the costs the arise from the repairs due to service centers having their own fees for labor and parts. The only thing that I can advise is to get estimates from different service centers in your area and see which is more most budget friendly to you. Also being that you are out of warranty, you may be eligible for our trade in program and it may turn out to be cheaper to just get another unit at a discounted rate. You give us your unit and we replace it with a factory reconditioned unit with a 1 year warranty which you can extend if you'd like to do so. Please see our www.shoponkyo.com website to see which units are available that may be of interest to you. Then contact our parts and service dept. to find the discounted cost and continue from there if that's the route you decide to take.
post #584 of 805
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Originally Posted by billbillw View Post

Unfortunately, this is the response I received from Onkyo:
That's too bad guess I just got lucky. How long were you out of your warranty period? Did you show them a receipt of purchase? I was just 1 year past my warranty and didn't get the ok for a fix free of charge until I faxed them my receipt, maybe that had something to do with it.
post #585 of 805
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Originally Posted by jbdawson View Post

That's too bad guess I just got lucky. How long were you out of your warranty period? Did you show them a receipt of purchase? I was just 1 year past my warranty and didn't get the ok for a fix free of charge until I faxed them my receipt, maybe that had something to do with it.

I'm about a year and a half out of warrant (I had an extended warranty from Onkyo). I actually called Onkyo and talked to them about the issue. They told me they had a "list" of eligible receivers for the free out of warranty HDMI fix. They said the 805 was not on the list, which means they don't think it is a model that has a 'known issue". I told them that was a load of you know what because there are dozens (if not hundreds) of people reporting 805s that are failing HDMI. Oh well. I won't be buying another Onkyo, that's for sure.
post #586 of 805
Happy to report that my txsr706 hdmi ports came back to life after replacing capacitors!

This thread is a life saver.

Fixing hdmi was best option for me to have dolby digital 5.1 signal out of roku.

I have zero experience soldering so I bought 15 capcitors 100uf 25v low esr at sim lm tower (live in Singapore), then brought the hdmi board to sim lim square to fixed by one of the several lap top repair shops.

Asked to replace all 100uf 4v (about 12) as well as the 100uf 16v (about 3).

Cost capacitors $3. Cost labor $50.

Cheers
post #587 of 805
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Originally Posted by eacks View Post

Has anyone come out with a solution of no AUDIO after the fix.. would it be a problem with the 5 black wires that go into the white connector? Or maybe the does it have to do that the card on which the three white plugs go into has two brown solders on the most rear plug connector?

Does anybody know which site I can order the hdmi power cable and its connector?
post #588 of 805
I picked up a 606 from Goodwill for $50 bucks not knowing the hdmi issue's.I replaced all of the 100uf caps and some 220uf caps(taken from a broken Xbox 360 and there 16v and 105c)but have no picture.The tv does recognize a signal but the picture is black and no sound from the tv.The receiver does see the hdmi signals right away and does decode the sound. I just ordered the 1uf 50v caps but if doesn't work is there anything else I can try?. And the FW does does display the version and not the ????????
post #589 of 805
Tried to do the DIY today because my 606 was dropping the connection with my DVR every once and awhile. Turns out I just made it worse by trying to do the repair, and now I don't get any video at all. Sad times.
post #590 of 805
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Originally Posted by a5ehren View Post

Tried to do the DIY today because my 606 was dropping the connection with my DVR every once and awhile. Turns out I just made it worse by trying to do the repair, and now I don't get any video at all. Sad times.

I wish I was in your position so I can buying a newer AVR lol. I've seen a few people selling Onkyo's parts on ebay. May be you can find a HDMI board there.
post #591 of 805
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Originally Posted by GusGus748s View Post

I wish I was in your position so I can buying a newer AVR lol. I've seen a few people selling Onkyo's parts on ebay. May be you can find a HDMI board there.
Didn't see anything when I looked. Looking at past results, it isn't too much more to just get a new AVR anyway...looking at a refurb Denon 1713 maybe, since I missed Best Buy's clearance on the 1712 by like a week frown.gif
Edited by a5ehren - 11/4/12 at 6:28pm
post #592 of 805
Hi all new to this forum. I have a 605 with issues as well. I am running rca connections from a non HD Direct reciever to cab/sat in and an HDMI out to my tv. Losing picture (cutting in and out) are the capacitors spoke of in this extensive thread the culprit possibly? I am upgrading to an HD reciever and going all HDMI should that possibly fix this? Lost and just don't have the cash for a new reciever.
post #593 of 805
Found this thread last night. I have had my SR805 in storage for about 6 months and finally moved into the new house today. Was I upset when I couldn't get anything to handshake with the HDMI. I tried everything and was about to give up until I came across this thread. So reading the entire thread last night after moving the entire day I woke up after 3 hours of sleep and went to Fry's. They had only 0-5 of each capacitor except the 100 35v 105c ones. So I took 15 of them at $1.29 just in case I needed more. Came back to the new house and took apart everything. Pretty simple really. One connector with that push down clip thing, one white ribbon cable you just pry back and forth, one clear plastic thing you take needle nose pliers to undue it, cut 2 zip ties, take a piece of tape off one connector, unscrew the hdmi board from outside, and then pull away at the two connectors.

It took some getting used to soldering on this as I bought a $3 soldering iron, $1 sponge and $3 of solder. The trick for me was get the iron nice and hot, dip on the sponge then hold the solder over the board and gently press the board. Magically the solder would travel and make a nice neat blob. Then take some solder onto the iron, and rub up and down on the capacitor. Next push the 2 solder points together and press the iron.

I replaced all of the 100 4v ones with the new ones, put everything back together and put the receiver back in the closet to connect. I figured if it didn't work I will just buy a new one. I would rather use that money towards a new TV though!! So I couldn't believe it, on the first try it worked. In the end I replaced 9 capacitors. 2 on the top and 7 on the bottom. Now to test everything and see if I get the OSD back. I think that has been out for over 3 years now. The HDMI just suddenly went while in storage. I also had done the resistor fix when the display went out a couple of years ago. Next up is to order a cooling fan as I really do like this receiver.

Before Bottom
Before Top
100 35v 105c Capacitor from Fry's ($1.29)
After Bottom
After Top
Edited by travanx - 12/12/12 at 1:32pm
post #594 of 805
Well after messing around with the 805 after my post above, the HDMI OUT doesn't work for video. I get sound coming out of the 5.1 though. When I plug my TV or monitor into the HDMI out the receiver cuts the sound and then continues playing sound. The TV sees an HDMI connected, the monitor does not.

Any ideas? I really don't want to buy a new receiver if I don't have to.
post #595 of 805
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Originally Posted by travanx View Post

Well after messing around with the 805 after my post above, the HDMI OUT doesn't work for video. I get sound coming out of the 5.1 though. When I plug my TV or monitor into the HDMI out the receiver cuts the sound and then continues playing sound. The TV sees an HDMI connected, the monitor does not.
Any ideas? I really don't want to buy a new receiver if I don't have to.

Check all the capacitor make sure the have good contact and were soldered correctly. Also check if you see any burned marks on the board. Either one or more of the capacitors are not working properly or the little legs were soldered in the wrong position. You've got to make sure the legs are soldered correctly with the right markings.
post #596 of 805
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Originally Posted by GusGus748s View Post

Check all the capacitor make sure the have good contact and were soldered correctly. Also check if you see any burned marks on the board. Either one or more of the capacitors are not working properly or the little legs were soldered in the wrong position. You've got to make sure the legs are soldered correctly with the right markings.

Good catch!!!!!!! I put the very last one on backwards. I think I need more sleep, I hope that is the fix!!!!!!!!!
post #597 of 805
Hey all - can someone illustrate where the caps go on the "regulators"? I replaced the 100uf caps and have picture working again, but now no sound. Line 2 works fine when sending signal to my other receiver. But no audio from speakers or headphones. Any help please!?

This is on a TX-SR606
post #598 of 805
I just got an obsolete part email from Digikey:

Obsolete Parts Notification

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You have purchased the following part number(s) from Digi-Key within the last two years. The manufacturer has announced this part(s) will become obsolete. Please click on the link below for more information on possible substitutes.

Manufacturer Details
TDK CORPORATION Description: CAP CER 1UF 50V RADIAL
Manufacturer Part Number: FK24Y5V1H105Z
Digi-Key Part Number: 445-2865-ND

There was a link to this page, which listed a possible substitute
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Obsolete Part
Manufacturer Part Number Digi-Key Part Number Description Manufacturer Lead Content RoHS Status
FK24Y5V1H105Z 445-2865-ND CAP CER 1UF 50V RADIAL TDK CORPORATION Lead free RoHS Compliant

Possible Substitutes
Manufacturer Part Number Digi-Key Part Number Description Manufacturer Lead Content RoHS Status
K105Z20Y5VF53H5 K105Z20Y5VF53H5-ND CAP CER 1UF 50V Y5V RADIAL VISHAY BC COMPONENTS Lead free RoHS Compliant

For those of you who don't know, I replaced the five caps but was unable to bridge the regulators because of my crappy soldering skills. However, my 606 is still going strong after almost 3 years. I do have a fan on top of the receiver, though.
post #599 of 805
Hi everyone,

I replaced the 5 capacitors on the hdmi board and got it all working. Then after a week, the sound went away. Absolutely no sound through any of the speakers connected to the receiver. HDMI switching and video worked. So I started to use the audioToTv passthrough to be able to hear through TV speakers. A week later, the fuse near the big transformer blew away. This caused continuous clicking sounds. After researching this forum, I replaced the fuse and got the functionality back to how it was before - ie., no audio through receiver, only video. No audio through the front headphone jack either.

Please help me identify the sound issue. I am running out of options to experiment.

thanks a lot,
Sid
post #600 of 805
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Originally Posted by sidharth17 View Post

Hi everyone,
I replaced the 5 capacitors on the hdmi board and got it all working. Then after a week, the sound went away. Absolutely no sound through any of the speakers connected to the receiver. HDMI switching and video worked. So I started to use the audioToTv passthrough to be able to hear through TV speakers. A week later, the fuse near the big transformer blew away. This caused continuous clicking sounds. After researching this forum, I replaced the fuse and got the functionality back to how it was before - ie., no audio through receiver, only video. No audio through the front headphone jack either.
Please help me identify the sound issue. I am running out of options to experiment.
thanks a lot,
Sid

This is my same issue.

Alternatively, can the amp stage be used in a DIY setup?
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