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post #1951 of 2014
^^^

one suggestion to reduce the number of power interruption reboots is to power both the DVR and HDD by a UPS
post #1952 of 2014
I wasn't sure where to post this but I just had the new HR44 installed yesterday and while I'm coming from old H&HR21's, I'm impressed with the sleekness and speed of the unit. The remote is interesting too being smaller, lighter and more contoured for the hand IMO. It does have somewhat of a cheaper feel to it but my kids will certainly put it through its paces so we'll see. They've done away with a lot of the clutter on the remote, which I think is good and I think it's logically laid out. I do wish I had a lighted version like my old one though. One of the most interesting things about the remote is the volume and channel buttons are spring toggle based so pushing up scrolls up and pushing down scrolls down. There is one thing that I already know that I don't like about these new remotes is that the buttons click. You'd be surprised how much that can annoy you especially when you're doing some late night viewing.

I haven't yet gotten to do more by way of connecting to wifi, ps3 and all of that but will do so over the course of the next couple of days and will report back.
post #1953 of 2014
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Originally Posted by Closet Geek View Post

I wasn't sure where to post this but I just had the new HR44 installed yesterday and while I'm coming from old H&HR21's, I'm impressed with the sleekness and speed of the unit. The remote is interesting too being smaller, lighter and more contoured for the hand IMO. It does have somewhat of a cheaper feel to it but my kids will certainly put it through its paces so we'll see. They've done away with a lot of the clutter on the remote, which I think is good and I think it's logically laid out. I do wish I had a lighted version like my old one though. One of the most interesting things about the remote is the volume and channel buttons are spring toggle based so pushing up scrolls up and pushing down scrolls down. There is one thing that I already know that I don't like about these new remotes is that the buttons click. You'd be surprised how much that can annoy you especially when you're doing some late night viewing.

I haven't yet gotten to do more by way of connecting to wifi, ps3 and all of that but will do so over the course of the next couple of days and will report back.
Your old lighted one will work just fine with the HR44 in IR mode only, not RF. Codes have not changed on DirecTV DVRs in many years. So just about any DirecTV remote, past and present, as well as any universal will work fine. I personally dislike the "new" remote immensely because they have removed so many important functions.
post #1954 of 2014
The RF function is key to where I have it set up but thanks anyway. And frankly, I'm a fan of the new remote to the degree that even after only one day I wouldn't want to go back to the old style. Even the universal function of the new remote is better. One of my kids has a cheapo off brand lcd that I could never get the old remote to work. The new remote works his tv like a charm. One less thing to clutter their rooms with! LOL
post #1955 of 2014
HR44 to PS3...I've been doing some brief searches on the supposed ability to connect the PS3 to the HR44 but there are no details. Anyone have any information on this?
post #1956 of 2014
What purpose would that serve? Are you sure you aren't thinking of PS3 Media Server, which is actually a DLNA server that runs on a PC? You can connect an HR to any DLNA server, but it works so poorly, it isn't worth the effort.
post #1957 of 2014
That's what I'm trying to figure out. They just say that it can be connected but I haven't been able to find out in what way and for what purpose.
post #1958 of 2014
Looks like PS3 can theoretically be used as a client in lieu of a C31. Costs just as much per month, so I don't really see the benefit. Could save a little rack space and increase you electric bill I guess.
post #1959 of 2014
Hmmm...interesting. If that's the case then not much use for me . The only way I would benefit is if it streamlined my setup somehow and I could access the PS3 thru the Genie or vice versa thru a single connection (HDMI).
post #1960 of 2014
The PS3 is eventually supposed to get an update to make it RVU compliant as a client (I'm not sure if it has already, or when it is supposed to). Once this happens you could use your PS3 as a client to the HR44 (or HR34) Genie which is an RVU server. So you could have your Genie in the living room, and if your kid has a PS3 in his bedroom you wouldn't have to get an extra DirecTV receiver or client. He would just be able to go to the RVU client selection in the PS3 menu and then it will switch over to the DirecTV guide and playlist so they can watch live TV or recordings. In order for you to do this though you have to register your PS3 as a client with DirecTV and they will charge you the same $6/month for it as they do any other client or receiver. Therefore the only real savings with them is a little bit of electicity and space because you don't need another box at that TV. Also you could theoretically call and shut the client off if that TV location was not going to be used for a while so you don't have to pay the $6/month all year long. For example if you rkid leaves for college and you don't need to be able to watch DirecTV in their room while they are gone you could just shut that client off, and then turn it back on when he comes back from school over winter or summer break. If you had a DirecTV leased client you would have to send it back each time you deactivated that client, and sign a new 2 year agreement and pay the up front least cost each time you wanted to add one back.
post #1961 of 2014
Just thought I'd share, but I had cause to unplug my HR44 and when I plugged it back in my kids were waiting and when they saw it booting up "Almost done" and the percentage complete screen they said "Oh no, not this again. This is going to take forever." but as advertised, in less than 4 minutes it had completed and was up an running at full throttle. My kids said, "What? Already? That rocks!".

It was funny to me. biggrin.gif
post #1962 of 2014
I've tried to get the HR34 a couple of times last year and they refused to offer any deals short of paying up to $400.

So I've been following the Comcast offers in my area and waiting for the new Tivos, just announced today. Would be a big outlay but I figure I would have residual value (if I get the Lifetime) a few years down the line, versus paying an upfront cost and also monthly costs.

Compared to what I pay for D* and U-Verse Internet, I could reduce my monthly cost by almost $60 for the first 12-months and $40 for the second 12-months, plus get more channels and much faster Internet connection.

So I emailed Direct TV with these facts and they replied and offered a Genie with 1 TB disk and 5 tuners and one Genie Mini. Not sure if this description makes it possible to determine if it's an HR34 or an HR44.

They'd also have to convert my wiring to SWM. Oddly, while my account online didn't show any eligibility for DVRs, it did say I was eligible for a free Genie Go, which I think requires Whole Home Service in the first place?

So they're not offering any programming credits and the cost of the installation of the Genie and Genie Mini and presumably Whole Home would be $49 plus tax.

I'd still be paying more monthly and wouldn't get Red Zone, which is included in the Comcast package (as well as HBO, Showtime, Cinemax and Starz).

The Roamio Tivos lets you stream to iOS devices in the home and will in the future let you stream over the Internet, so better functionality than Genie Go.

It would have to be the HR44 for me to even entertain this. Maybe a wireless Mini instead of a wired Mini.

Has anyone been able to do better than just $49 install for Genie and Genie Mini? Like get some programming credits for a year or two?
post #1963 of 2014
Wow...It's almost embarrassing for me but I got my Genie setup completely free along with Sunday NFL Ticket included and discounts up to about 15 months (I think - info not in front of me right now) on HBO and Showtime packages. I went from an HDDVR with 2 HD receivers and 2 SD receivers to a Genie with 4 minis plus the above packaging and reduced my bill by just over $60. And to boot, I had new install of everything free of charge as well. I've been with them since 1996 though AND I was currently out of contract plus I believe U-Verse is making inroads to where I moved to.

Note: I mentioned that I got 4 mini's; however, that was what I was "sold" but the installers told me it only worked with 3 mini's. I understand what they mean but they felt it was better for me to reuse my HR21's recording capacity in addition to the Genie's, and I would still have whole home dvr capability. The problem is the HR21 basically died before I moved but I was thinking they could do a new software install or something. It never worked so I'm going to have to have them come back out and install either another mini or HDDVR. I haven't decided what would be the best option yet but I'm leaning towards just going with another mini just to keep everything new.
post #1964 of 2014
Yeah I haven't called in to get into it with them yet.

I pay more now to D* alone than I'd pay to Comcast for Internet and a channel package which would include more premiums and the NFL Red Zone channel (which I've tried unsuccessfully in the past to get added to my D* account).

So like I said, without programming credits, I'd pay $40-60 more a month on D*, even with the "free" (outside of the $49 installation) equipment.

That would be $720 more in the first year and $480 more in the second year.

A Tivo Roamio Plus with Lifetime would be $900 and a Tivo Mini would be $250 with lifetime.

So basically the Tivo setup would pay for itself over a new 2-year commitment.
post #1965 of 2014
I say at this point, go after the best deal you can get. It's not like television programming is stellar these days and broadcast quality is at best inconsistent. If I really want quality video I will just plug in a bluray anyway. But that's just me. It's simply that D* blindsided me with the deal they gave me, I actually didn't even ask for it...didn't even suggest I would move my business. I just told them I was moving, asked what I needed to do to move my service and Bam! They were already going to give me a better programming deal and they added the equipment upgrade free with install free (not even a shipping charge) so I didn't feel shopping it around would be worth the hassle. Bird in the hand so to speak. Plus, I didn't think it was wise to let the rep off the phone before booking the deal in case they couldn't (or wouldn't) offer the same deal later. So I jumped on it and life is good for me. Gas is high...food is high....make the system work for you.
post #1966 of 2014
I ordered a 3 TB dual external hard drive from Weaknees and am wondering how best to hook up to an HR34:

USB or eSata? I understand eSata is faster but not designed for frequent disconnect?

TIA for any advice

Mark
post #1967 of 2014
I didn't think it supported USB?
post #1968 of 2014
eSATA is the only way
post #1969 of 2014
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Originally Posted by markrubin View Post

I ordered a 3 TB dual external hard drive from Weaknees and am wondering how best to hook up to an HR34:

USB or eSata? I understand eSata is faster but not designed for frequent disconnect?

TIA for any advice

Mark

That should give you a lot of space. I have a 2tb connected eSata with 115 movies on it and still have 70% free.

The external is nice but it can be a pain. After software updates or power interruptions it doesn't reconnect. Sometimes I have to unplug the DVR and reboot it up to 5 times before it reconnects to it. I'm using the WD A/V drive in the enclosure.
post #1970 of 2014
^^^

got it connected by eSata and powered up: it is now checking the new hard drive so this will take several hours

I was reading about reconnect issues: both the DVR and HD are on a big UPS so hopefully the only thing to worry about is updates and forced reboots

what I bought are dual 3TB drives in raid: now I am concerned it will slow the operation of the DVR?
post #1971 of 2014
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Originally Posted by markrubin View Post

^^^

got it connected by eSata and powered up: it is now checking the new hard drive so this will take several hours

Mine didn't take several hours when I first connected it. I think it was just a few minutes more than the normal, (Please Wait, Just a Few More Seconds), in DTV terms, that is about 5 minutes.......
post #1972 of 2014
no joy here: the HR34 shows external disc error and goes back to checking disc for errors: that takes 8 hours (no errors)

I disconnected it and will have to return it to Weaknees

Mark
post #1973 of 2014
I have the HR24-100 and since the last Software update 8/22 my remote is doing the double input again. When I press 2 I get 22 etc. This is happening about 50% of the time I input.

I had this on a HR22 and they replaced the unit with this 24 over a year ago. I never had the problem again until the software update.

Has anyone else noticed this problem?
post #1974 of 2014
Are you using RF or IR?
post #1975 of 2014
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Originally Posted by joed32 View Post

Are you using RF or IR?

I'm using RF. I reprogrammed it and so far it seems to be working ok again. Hopefully it will be ok.

I just got an email from DTV stating that I am eligible for free upgrade/additional receivers. They have a TIVO DVR. What is the difference between that and the HR24-100 that I'm using now. With the TIVO is there any way to download movies to my PC. I didn't know they even used TIVO anymore.

Right now I have 2 HR24-100 with whole home. I don't know if there would be any advantage to upgrading my equipment.
post #1976 of 2014
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Originally Posted by Burnerbum View Post

I'm using RF. I reprogrammed it and so far it seems to be working ok again. Hopefully it will be ok.

I just got an email from DTV stating that I am eligible for free upgrade/additional receivers. They have a TIVO DVR. What is the difference between that and the HR24-100 that I'm using now. With the TIVO is there any way to download movies to my PC. I didn't know they even used TIVO anymore.

Right now I have 2 HR24-100 with whole home. I don't know if there would be any advantage to upgrading my equipment.
Yes if you can get the HR44, and the TVIO does not have whole home, and I don't think you can down load from a DirectTV box to a computer, called content protection for the PPV or the HBO's/Showtime on and on.

Yes if you can get the HR44, and the TVIO does not have whole home, and I don't think you can down load from a DirectTV box to a computer, called content protection for the PPV or the HBO's/Showtime on and on.
post #1977 of 2014
After almost a year of ownership I'm still having problems with my HR34. At first it was impossible to stream any show to or from it to other DVRs in my home as it would freeze constantly, or just not play at all (this happened either way). It has gotten better... Now I get freezes less frequently but nevertheless I still get them. I don't have any problems streaming between any other DVRs where the HR34 isn't involved. This has become more of an issue because I've started to want to rely on the HR34 more as the central place for my recordings, but I can't do that because of the streaming problems. Up until now I've primarily simply used it as a standalone DVR in my Theater room, so I can manipulate liveTV (I have not had problems with liveTV or playing back its own recordings). Any suggestions before I call DirecTV?
post #1978 of 2014
Anybody having restart issues? We have to restart ours almost 3-4 times a week
post #1979 of 2014
Why do you have to restart it? What are the symptoms?
post #1980 of 2014
Mine froze during a remote control command sequence. I had to do a power center restart to get our HR24 back.
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