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post #871 of 1182
Hi guys, I just purchase a Orbit Shifter LFU today biggrin.gif. Jeff inform me he as 4 in stock. He will ship my out Tuesday. Can't wait.
post #872 of 1182
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Originally Posted by femi View Post

Hi guys, I just purchase a Orbit Shifter LFU today biggrin.gif. Jeff inform me he as 4 in stock. He will ship my out Tuesday. Can't wait.

That's cool, congrats! Looking forward to your impressions. cool.gif

It's amazing he has stock of them but then again due to size and cost, they are a slow mover.
post #873 of 1182
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Originally Posted by femi View Post

Hi guys, I just purchase a Orbit Shifter LFU today biggrin.gif. Jeff inform me he as 4 in stock. He will ship my out Tuesday. Can't wait.

You'll love it. That sub is a beast!
post #874 of 1182
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Originally Posted by rhed View Post

DotJun.. Since you have the OS. Can I ask you your opinion on it? Do you think that would be your last upgrade?
I don't know how qualified my opinion on the matter is because the only other sub I have to reference it to is my previous bic pl-200. If you are asking me what I think of it without any other reference though I must say that it is a pretty kick ass sub. I'm not even talking about the sonic quality, of which it is superb, I'm talking about the whole experience of watching a movie.

I tried to watch a movie with the sub off due to the hour, past midnight, and I quickly shut it down. Is just not the same. I see explosions but I can't feel them. That is the best thing about it IMO, the impact/feeling/experience of being in the action instead of just watching it. Now I just need to get off my ass and get some new LCR's so I can experience movie nirvana 😊

As far as upgrading goes? If I can somehow find room to put a second one in without the wife noticing until I have it placed then I will do that, but just for the sake of smoothing out the bass for everyone in the living room and not for more spl, of which I have more than I could ever want with just a single OS.

I forgot to say that if I ever hear a system that is flat to single digits and I end up liking it then I might do something to chase that. If those same low frequencies makes me feel ill or gives me that same sound/feeling of when you crack your car window and your car starts to resonate then it isn't for me as I find that sound annoying.
post #875 of 1182
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Originally Posted by femi View Post

Hi guys, I just purchase a Orbit Shifter LFU today biggrin.gif. Jeff inform me he as 4 in stock. He will ship my out Tuesday. Can't wait.
You lucky dog! I had to wait five weeks for mine.
post #876 of 1182
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Originally Posted by rhed View Post

RMK... That route went down the drain. After I had a talk with the wifey. lol.. Now is back to my original decision.. either the dual OS or S2.. DAMMIT! well at least I tried to slip in 2 more subs.. Almost ended up sleeping at the hotel last night.. lol..



Well after a long talk with the wife. She agreed with me as long as I keep my promise that this will be my last subwoofer journey. And any upgrade for awhile until we build another house at a certain location here in Hawaii that she we've been planning for 2016.

Anyway I'm most likely gonna make my purchase this week. Gonna give Jeff a call tomorrow. And ask some final questions before I make a decision. The OS option is out of the equation. After building two temporary models of it. It didn't get the WAF. But I really wanted the strength above 20hz of the OS. And since this will be my last sub journey I gotta make it right. Ok.. Now my question is.. Do you think 4 S2 will equal 2 OS? Or what of JTR line up will equal 2 OS. BTW, the 4 S2 is approved and has WAF. So that thought is a go. I was also thinking of 2 S2 and 2 Cap 2400. Because ain't the 2400 tune for the 17hz and up range? Any input appreciated. And again, DIY is not a option for me. Thanks guys for all your help..biggrin.gif
post #877 of 1182
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Originally Posted by rhed View Post

Well after a long talk with the wife. She agreed with me as long as I keep my promise that this will be my last subwoofer journey. And any upgrade for awhile until we build another house at a certain location here in Hawaii that she we've been planning for 2016.

Anyway I'm most likely gonna make my purchase this week. Gonna give Jeff a call tomorrow. And ask some final questions before I make a decision. The OS option is out of the equation. After building two temporary models of it. It didn't get the WAF. But I really wanted the strength above 20hz of the OS. And since this will be my last sub journey I gotta make it right. Ok.. Now my question is.. Do you think 4 S2 will equal 2 OS? Or what of JTR line up will equal 2 OS. BTW, the 4 S2 is approved and has WAF. So that thought is a go. I was also thinking of 2 S2 and 2 Cap 2400. Because ain't the 2400 tune for the 17hz and up range? Any input appreciated. And again, DIY is not a option for me. Thanks guys for all your help..biggrin.gif

Why in the world would you want 4 S2's? eek.gifeek.gifeek.gifeek.gifeek.gifeek.gifeek.gifeek.gifeek.gifeek.gifeek.gifeek.gifeek.gifeek.gifeek.gif

I have one up front and only need to add additional subs in back for smoothing...............adding another S2 is not needed, maybe an S1 or even a pair dependent on FR.

Seriously, last night I watched "Transformers" at -5 on Marantz 8801........I had a wild hair biggrin.gif..........and the whole room was shaking to beat heck! On a good note, there was no rattles! biggrin.gif

This was the first time I had source material worthy enough for the S2 to play with.

There is definitely more output down low on the S2, but the OS is a completely different animal.....................the output above 20 hz is unbelievable.....................but it's the CLEAN output which can't be matched by S2.

I have a moderate sized room.........25 X 17 X 10 ft...........and one S2 fills the room quite well, but I need more subs in back to smooth.

For top notch LFE, two S2 up front with 2 S1 in rear would be exceptional and way above my needs and I bet would surpass two OS's on a broader frequency spectrum.

For me...........I'll stick with one S2 upfront................we'll see what the future holds for rear smoothing subs.
post #878 of 1182
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Originally Posted by rhed View Post

Well after a long talk with the wife. She agreed with me as long as I keep my promise that this will be my last subwoofer journey. And any upgrade for awhile until we build another house at a certain location here in Hawaii that she we've been planning for 2016.

Anyway I'm most likely gonna make my purchase this week. Gonna give Jeff a call tomorrow. And ask some final questions before I make a decision. The OS option is out of the equation. After building two temporary models of it. It didn't get the WAF. But I really wanted the strength above 20hz of the OS. And since this will be my last sub journey I gotta make it right. Ok.. Now my question is.. Do you think 4 S2 will equal 2 OS? Or what of JTR line up will equal 2 OS. BTW, the 4 S2 is approved and has WAF. So that thought is a go. I was also thinking of 2 S2 and 2 Cap 2400. Because ain't the 2400 tune for the 17hz and up range? Any input appreciated. And again, DIY is not a option for me. Thanks guys for all your help..biggrin.gif

Well I certainly understand her position. I was fortunate not to have anyone to please but myself. That said, I don't care for the size and look of the OS's but when they are making that amazing bass I forget all about the cosmetic issues. wink.gif

Four S2's is an interesting idea. Not sure how that would be better WAF wise. I think an S2 and a couple of S1's would give you some reasonable placement options and that would probably allow you to get the best overall response in the room. Big SPL aside, getting rid of peaks and nulls is critical if you want the best sound. Multiples of the same or similar subs with placement flexibility is the best method to get there. You have lot's of good options and apparently, a solid budget. Don't forget to have fun with it, you will get it right eventually. cool.gif
post #879 of 1182
4 S2 crazy you say? Really?rolleyes.gif I don't even think that's even close to being crazy compared to most of the members here. I mean come now.. I already think having dual OS, now that's beginning to be crazy. Actually i wanted dual OS in the first place biggrin.gif. But didnt get the WAF.Remember now I'm trying to have a even FR in my not so sealed 20x18x10 rm. I can always tune down and calibrate to tame. I just don't want to fall in the trap again with un even FR. So please bro don't bash on me. We all bro's here..smile.gif



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Originally Posted by doublewing11 View Post

Why in the world would you want 4 S2's? eek.gifeek.gifeek.gifeek.gifeek.gifeek.gifeek.gifeek.gifeek.gifeek.gifeek.gifeek.gifeek.gifeek.gifeek.gif

I have one up front and only need to add additional subs in back for smoothing...............adding another S2 is not needed, maybe an S1 or even a pair dependent on FR.

Seriously, last night I watched "Transformers" at -5 on Marantz 8801........I had a wild hair biggrin.gif..........and the whole room was shaking to beat heck! On a good note, there was no rattles! biggrin.gif

This was the first time I had source material worthy enough for the S2 to play with.

There is definitely more output down low on the S2, but the OS is a completely different animal.....................the output above 20 hz is unbelievable.....................but it's the CLEAN output which can't be matched by S2.

I have a moderate sized room.........25 X 17 X 10 ft...........and one S2 fills the room quite well, but I need more subs in back to smooth.

For top notch LFE, two S2 up front with 2 S1 in rear would be exceptional and way above my needs and I bet would surpass two OS's on a broader frequency spectrum.

For me...........I'll stick with one S2 upfront................we'll see what the future holds for rear smoothing subs.
post #880 of 1182
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Originally Posted by rhed View Post

Well after a long talk with the wife. She agreed with me as long as I keep my promise that this will be my last subwoofer journey. And any upgrade for awhile until we build another house at a certain location here in Hawaii that she we've been planning for 2016.

Anyway I'm most likely gonna make my purchase this week. Gonna give Jeff a call tomorrow. And ask some final questions before I make a decision. The OS option is out of the equation. After building two temporary models of it. It didn't get the WAF. But I really wanted the strength above 20hz of the OS. And since this will be my last sub journey I gotta make it right. Ok.. Now my question is.. Do you think 4 S2 will equal 2 OS? Or what of JTR line up will equal 2 OS. BTW, the 4 S2 is approved and has WAF. So that thought is a go. I was also thinking of 2 S2 and 2 Cap 2400. Because ain't the 2400 tune for the 17hz and up range? Any input appreciated. And again, DIY is not a option for me. Thanks guys for all your help..biggrin.gif

These statements could possibly lead to marital strife in the future.

Good news. 4 S2's will get you to (or closer to) "the end" of your journey than any other commercial/ID products(s) on the market.

That said...sucks the OS is completely out of the question. I'm confident that 4 OS would be THE end of the journey...lol
post #881 of 1182
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Originally Posted by RMK! View Post

Well I certainly understand her position. I was fortunate not to have anyone to please but myself. That said, I don't care for the size and look of the OS's but when they are making that amazing bass I forget all about the cosmetic issues. wink.gif

Four S2's is an interesting idea. Not sure how that would be better WAF wise. I think an S2 and a couple of S1's would give you some reasonable placement options and that would probably allow you to get the best overall response in the room. Big SPL aside, getting rid of peaks and nulls is critical if you want the best sound. Multiples of the same or similar subs with placement flexibility is the best method to get there. You have lot's of good options and apparently, a solid budget. Don't forget to have fun with it, you will get it right eventually. cool.gif




RMK.. Bro.. I could spread around my S2. 2 up front then 2 at the back. But I'm trying to find a good combo that will take care from 20hz up and 20hz down. I guess I just want a little bit of everything down the whole spectrum. And the OS is out for me. And since this has to be my last subwoofer journey. I just want to make it right. I think the dual OS would have done it. What you think of dual S2 and dual Cap 2400?
post #882 of 1182
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Originally Posted by popalock View Post

These statements could possibly lead to marital strife in the future.

Good news. 4 S2's will get you to (or closer to) "the end" of your journey than any other commercial/ID products(s) on the market.

That said...sucks the OS is completely out of the question. I'm confident that 4 OS would be THE end of the journey...lol


Bro.. 4 OS would definitely lead to marital strife..eek.gif
Please don't give me that idea..biggrin.gif
post #883 of 1182
Btw.. My future dedicated HT will be 24x18x9. Will 4 S2 be enough for that size?
post #884 of 1182
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Originally Posted by rhed View Post

Btw.. My future dedicated HT will be 24x18x9. Will 4 S2 be enough for that size?

That is just about identical to my room dimensions and yes, four S2's would be more than adequate for any sane (important caveat wink.gif) person. In fact if you get them, can I come over and give em a listen?

BTW, I wouldn't mix S2's with Caps ... if you're going in that direction (S2's) stay the course. IMHO smile.gif
Edited by RMK! - 9/2/13 at 12:09pm
post #885 of 1182
Any time you come to Honolulu, HI for a visit or vacation. Just hit me up.. And I'll be happy to demo the S2 and maybe have a few beers while at it.. Lol.
Wait, I wonder if any members here have a OS or S2 in Hawaii. If so I wanna demo..
post #886 of 1182
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Originally Posted by rhed View Post

Any time you come to Honolulu, HI for a visit or vacation. Just hit me up.. And I'll be happy to demo the S2 and maybe have a few beers while at it.. Lol.
Wait, I wonder if any members here have a OS or S2 in Hawaii. If so I wanna demo..

Cool but how about Mai Tai's instead? ... I miss Maui ... frown.gif

Never heard of anyone on the Islands with JTR's let alone OS's or S2's. Next time you talk to Jeff ask him ...
post #887 of 1182
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Originally Posted by RMK! View Post

Cool but how about Mai Tai's instead? ... I miss Maui ... frown.gif

Never heard of anyone on the Islands with JTR's let alone OS's or S2's. Next time you talk to Jeff ask him ...


Forget the Mai Tai's bro.. Gotta try Island Ice Tea! Very good. You'll be drinking it like it's it taste exactly like a pineapple ice tea. But before you know it it'll hit you fast.. Lol
post #888 of 1182
Hmmm, was thinking today on the drive back from Portland, OR to Eugene, OR. (couple hrs. Went to see a movie, the Grandmaster, in a Dolby Atmos theater. 64 speakers!) I am pretty set on the CapS2 to go with LCR 212 Noesis. I was thinking it would be possible the following late summer fall, after my purchase in spring, that I could add a couple of Cap S1's. So one Cap S2 used as a center channel stand for the Noesis, which I understand will fit perfectly. And two CapS1's say in the near field corners on either side of the couch. That 'should give a very nice even response throughout the room and add to the overall headroom nicely! plus using Audyssey with sub EQ HT I can treat the front as a sub and have the two rears treated as one equidistant on either side of the couch. I also like that because the CapS1 boxes are small and very manageable. Actually they could sit under some end tables even smile.gif
post #889 of 1182
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Originally Posted by jlpowell84 View Post

Hmmm, was thinking today on the drive back from Portland, OR to Eugene, OR. (couple hrs. Went to see a movie, the Grandmaster, in a Dolby Atmos theater. 64 speakers!) I am pretty set on the CapS2 to go with LCR 212 Noesis. I was thinking it would be possible the following late summer fall, after my purchase in spring, that I could add a couple of Cap S1's. So one Cap S2 used as a center channel stand for the Noesis, which I understand will fit perfectly. And two CapS1's say in the near field corners on either side of the couch. That 'should give a very nice even response throughout the room and add to the overall headroom nicely! plus using Audyssey with sub EQ HT I can treat the front as a sub and have the two rears treated as one equidistant on either side of the couch. I also like that because the CapS1 boxes are small and very manageable. Actually they could sit under some end tables even smile.gif

Near field... Nice!

Manageable...as manageable as a 120lb brick can be! I get your point though...lol.
post #890 of 1182
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Originally Posted by RMK! View Post

Well I certainly understand her position. I was fortunate not to have anyone to please but myself. That said, I don't care for the size and look of the OS's but when they are making that amazing bass I forget all about the cosmetic issues. wink.gif

Four S2's is an interesting idea. Not sure how that would be better WAF wise. I think an S2 and a couple of S1's would give you some reasonable placement options and that would probably allow you to get the best overall response in the room. Big SPL aside, getting rid of peaks and nulls is critical if you want the best sound. Multiples of the same or similar subs with placement flexibility is the best method to get there. You have lot's of good options and apparently, a solid budget. Don't forget to have fun with it, you will get it right eventually. cool.gif
What cosmetic issue? I put a plant on top of mine and you can hardly tell it is there anymore 😀
post #891 of 1182
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What cosmetic issue? I put a plant on top of mine and you can hardly tell it is there anymore 😀

Well there you have it ... I lack your creativity ... tongue.gifwink.gif
post #892 of 1182
Reading the most recent stuff just makes me think you all are loony 😃 I was watching the avengers last night card had my receiver at -5db and let me tell you... I don't know how you guys with multi subs do it. At that level my wife was freaking out cause the house felt like it was going to fall apart. Yes I do run my sub hot, for those that didn't see my earlier graph post, but still I only have 1 sub and it was insane loud. Not only is it loud but I can see my pants vibrating! Or maybe it's my eyeballs.

Maybe I need to visit someone that has multi-sub setup and see how crazy you people really get with your systems 😊
post #893 of 1182
^ the whole pants vibrating crotch area thing is a bit un-nerving eh? I experienced that with the dual orbit shifters at the KC blind meet in 2012. I must say at that very moment I thought --- "what kind of sub system is Jeff making here?"
post #894 of 1182
We should digress redface.gif
post #895 of 1182
Jonathon, if JTR ever starts advertising in magazines Jeff should have some of your quotes on the add:


"The Noesis 212's gave me pee finishing chills."

"The Captivators gave me goose bumps and chills, almost dirty chills."

"The Orbit Shifters had the 'pants vibrating crotch area thing' going for them... which is nice."


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post #896 of 1182
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Originally Posted by carp View Post

Jonathon, if JTR ever starts advertising in magazines Jeff should have some of your quotes on the add:


"The Noesis 212's gave me pee finishing chills."

"The Captivators gave me goose bumps and chills, almost dirty chills."

"The Orbit Shifters had the 'pants vibrating crotch area thing' going for them... which is nice."


biggrin.gif

LMAO biggrin.gif
I just drink more water and pee in a bucket while listening to music. A bit cheaper that way!
post #897 of 1182
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Originally Posted by DotJun View Post

Reading the most recent stuff just makes me think you all are loony 😃 I was watching the avengers last night card had my receiver at -5db and let me tell you... I don't know how you guys with multi subs do it. At that level my wife was freaking out cause the house felt like it was going to fall apart. Yes I do run my sub hot, for those that didn't see my earlier graph post, but still I only have 1 sub and it was insane loud. Not only is it loud but I can see my pants vibrating! Or maybe it's my eyeballs.

Maybe I need to visit someone that has multi-sub setup and see how crazy you people really get with your systems 😊

I don't disagree that duals of this level of sub is unnecessary and my entire home (not just the HT room) is subject to some serious shaking. That said, once you have duals, any less is just not enough. As Jeff said to me when I bought the OS's "these will cure you of upgrading your subs" and he was right ... cool.gif
Edited by RMK! - 9/4/13 at 3:17pm
post #898 of 1182
Had a talk with Jeff today. Down to earth kind of guy btw. And oh yea, btw, I just remeasured my room again the other day. I don't know where I got 20x18x10 dimension from. Must be a home I was working on before. Anyway my HT room is actual bigger 20x20x10. So Jeff said quad S2 would do for what I'm trying to achieve. Like having dual OS to take care of the 20hz up. And S2 digging down below. Ok, now just waiting on shipping quotes. Then submit it to the bank (wife). Then it's a go...
post #899 of 1182
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Originally Posted by rhed View Post

Had a talk with Jeff today. Down to earth kind of guy btw. And oh yea, btw, I just remeasured my room again the other day. I don't know where I got 20x18x10 dimension from. Must be a home I was working on before. Anyway my HT room is actual bigger 20x20x10. So Jeff said quad S2 would do for what I'm trying to achieve. Like having dual OS to take care of the 20hz up. And S2 digging down below. Ok, now just waiting on shipping quotes. Then submit it to the bank (wife). Then it's a go...

Seriously, quad S2's?

That is ridiculous
post #900 of 1182
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Originally Posted by rhed View Post

Had a talk with Jeff today. Down to earth kind of guy btw. And oh yea, btw, I just remeasured my room again the other day. I don't know where I got 20x18x10 dimension from. Must be a home I was working on before. Anyway my HT room is actual bigger 20x20x10. So Jeff said quad S2 would do for what I'm trying to achieve. Like having dual OS to take care of the 20hz up. And S2 digging down below. Ok, now just waiting on shipping quotes. Then submit it to the bank (wife). Then it's a go...

Should make for a good photo op...biggrin.gif
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